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  1. Comment fixups from 626df47ad9.

  2. Remove 'additional' pointer from TupleHashEntryData.

  3. Add ExecCopySlotMinimalTupleExtra().

  4. Create accessor functions for TupleHashEntry.

  5. TupleHashTable: store additional data along with tuple.

  6. ExecInitAgg: update aggstate->numaggs and ->numtrans earlier.

  7. nodeSetOp.c: missing additionalsize for BuildTupleHashTable().

  8. Remove unused TupleHashTableData->entrysize.

  9. Add missing typedefs.list entry for AggStatePerGroupData.

  1. Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2024-11-18T00:01:49Z

    TupleHashEntryData is the size of a hash bucket, and it's currently 24
    bytes. The size of the structure is important for HashAgg and other
    callers that can build up large hashtables of small tuples. Waste in
    this structure is even worse when the hash table is sparse, because the
    space is consumed whether the bucket is occupied or not.
    
    The attached patch series brings it down to 12. There are several
    unappealing hacks, so ideally we'd find something cleaner, but halving
    the bucket size seems quite desirable if it can be done in an
    acceptable way.
    
    test:
       create table big(i int, j int);
       insert into big select g, 1 from generate_series(1,10000000) g;
       vacuum freeze analyze big; checkpoint;
       select pg_prewarm('big'::regclass);
       set hash_mem_multiplier = 1;
       set work_mem = '10GB';
       explain analyze select count(*) from
         (select i from big group by i) s;
    
    results:
       master: 768MiB memory, 4110ms
       patches: 576MiB memory, 4070ms
    
    (Timing difference is within test noise, so the benefit is reduced
    memory footprint.)
    
    This change is related to the problem and potential solutions discussed
    at [1].
    
    Patches:
    
    0001: This patch makes the structure private, so that it's easier to
    control the way the structure is accessed.
    
    0002: Removes the "additional" pointer, instead storing it right after
    the tuple, which is already stored in a separate chunk. Hack: this
    crams the "additional" pointer after the MinimalTuple in the same chunk
    of memory to avoid adding additional palloc()s.
    
    0003: simplehash: allow the caller to decide which entries are empty vs
    in-use rather than requiring a separate "status" field. This may limit
    other possible status values in the future (i.e. adding on to the
    enum), but I'm not sure what those other stutus values might be.
    
    0004: Removes the "status" field from TupleHashEntryData, using
    firstTuple==NULL to mean "empty", otherwise "in use". Hack: need an
    additional "special" pointer value to mean "input slot" now that NULL
    means "empty".
    
    0005: Pack TupleHashEntryData. IIUC, this is fine even on machines that
    can't do unaligned access, so long as we are accessing the fields
    through the struct, and not taking the address of individual members.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
    [1]
    https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/e061c5439996e13c0fb51997e92d6a09834a7796.camel%40j-davis.com
    
    
  2. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi> — 2024-11-18T10:13:50Z

    On 18/11/2024 02:01, Jeff Davis wrote:
    > 
    > TupleHashEntryData is the size of a hash bucket, and it's currently 24
    > bytes. The size of the structure is important for HashAgg and other
    > callers that can build up large hashtables of small tuples. Waste in
    > this structure is even worse when the hash table is sparse, because the
    > space is consumed whether the bucket is occupied or not.
    > 
    > The attached patch series brings it down to 12. There are several
    > unappealing hacks, so ideally we'd find something cleaner, but halving
    > the bucket size seems quite desirable if it can be done in an
    > acceptable way.
    
    Makes sense.
    
    > 0001: This patch makes the structure private, so that it's easier to
    > control the way the structure is accessed.
    
    Seems pretty uncontroversial. You removed the typedef for struct 
    TupleHashEntryData, which is a bit unusual for our usual source style. 
    Was there a reason for that?
    
    > 0002: Removes the "additional" pointer, instead storing it right after
    > the tuple, which is already stored in a separate chunk. Hack: this
    > crams the "additional" pointer after the MinimalTuple in the same chunk
    > of memory to avoid adding additional palloc()s.
    
    Hmm, it would seem more straightforward to store it in the beginning, 
    i.e. have something like this:
    
    struct {
          void *additional;
          MinimalTupleData mtup;
    } ;
    
    Come to think of it, how important is it that we use MinimalTuple here 
    at all? Some other representation could be faster to deal with in 
    TupleHashTableMatch() anyway.
    
    > 0003: simplehash: allow the caller to decide which entries are empty vs
    > in-use rather than requiring a separate "status" field. This may limit
    > other possible status values in the future (i.e. adding on to the
    > enum), but I'm not sure what those other stutus values might be.
    
    +1. I've wanted to have this in the past.
    
    > 0004: Removes the "status" field from TupleHashEntryData, using
    > firstTuple==NULL to mean "empty", otherwise "in use". Hack: need an
    > additional "special" pointer value to mean "input slot" now that NULL
    > means "empty".
    
    +1
    
    > 0005: Pack TupleHashEntryData. IIUC, this is fine even on machines that
    > can't do unaligned access, so long as we are accessing the fields
    > through the struct, and not taking the address of individual members.
    
    Seems OK.
    
    I wonder if the compiler understands that the elements are still 4-byte 
    aligned, or if it forces byte-per-byte access? Playing with godbolt a 
    little, it seems like GCC at least understands it, but clang does not. 
    On architectures with non-strict alignment, it doesn't matter as a 
    simple load/store instruction is the fastest option anyway.
    
    -- 
    Heikki Linnakangas
    Neon (https://neon.tech)
    
    
    
    
  3. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2024-11-18T20:22:28Z

    On Mon, 2024-11-18 at 12:13 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
    > Seems pretty uncontroversial. You removed the typedef for struct 
    > TupleHashEntryData, which is a bit unusual for our usual source
    > style. 
    > Was there a reason for that?
    
    If it's private to a file and I don't intend to use it a lot, I do it
    to cut down typedefs.list bloat. I'll go ahead and add the typedef back
    to match the style, though.
    
    > 
    > Hmm, it would seem more straightforward to store it in the beginning,
    > i.e. have something like this:
    > 
    > struct {
    >       void *additional;
    >       MinimalTupleData mtup;
    > } ;
    
    That was my first approach, but it requires an additional memcpy,
    because ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() does it's own palloc. I used
    repalloc() because it will often have space at the end of the chunk
    anyway, and not need to memcpy(). Maybe that's not significant but it
    did seem detectable in some perf tests.
    
    But perhaps we can go further and get rid of the "additional" pointer
    and inline the pergroup data and the grouping key tuple into the same
    palloc chunk? That would cut out a palloc and the 8 wasted bytes on the
    pointer.
    
    > Come to think of it, how important is it that we use MinimalTuple
    > here 
    > at all? Some other representation could be faster to deal with in 
    > TupleHashTableMatch() anyway.
    
    What did you have in mind? That sounds like a good idea orthogonal to
    reducing the bucket size.
    
    Alternatively, MinimalTuple is not very "minimal", and perhaps we can
    just make it better.
    
    > 
    > > 0004: Removes the "status" field from TupleHashEntryData, using
    > > firstTuple==NULL to mean "empty", otherwise "in use". Hack: need an
    > > additional "special" pointer value to mean "input slot" now that
    > > NULL
    > > means "empty".
    > 
    > +1
    
    For the FIRSTTUPLE_INPUTSLOT marker, do you think it's cleaner to use
    what I did:
    
      const static MinimalTuple FIRSTTUPLE_INPUTSLOT = (MinimalTuple) 0x1;
    
    or something like:
    
      static MinimalTupleData dummy = {0};
      const static MinimalTuple FIRSTTUPLE_INPUTSLOT = &dummy;
    
    ?
    
    > 
    > On architectures with non-strict alignment, it doesn't matter as a 
    > simple load/store instruction is the fastest option anyway.
    
    My intuition is that the cost of dereferencing that pointer (to memory
    which is not expected to be in cache) is going to be way higher than
    the cost of a couple extra instructions to do the unaligned access.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
    
    
    
  4. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi> — 2024-11-18T23:30:28Z

    On 18/11/2024 22:22, Jeff Davis wrote:
    > On Mon, 2024-11-18 at 12:13 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
    >> Hmm, it would seem more straightforward to store it in the beginning,
    >> i.e. have something like this:
    >>
    >> struct {
    >>        void *additional;
    >>        MinimalTupleData mtup;
    >> } ;
    > 
    > That was my first approach, but it requires an additional memcpy,
    > because ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() does it's own palloc. I used
    > repalloc() because it will often have space at the end of the chunk
    > anyway, and not need to memcpy(). Maybe that's not significant but it
    > did seem detectable in some perf tests.
    > 
    > But perhaps we can go further and get rid of the "additional" pointer
    > and inline the pergroup data and the grouping key tuple into the same
    > palloc chunk? That would cut out a palloc and the 8 wasted bytes on the
    > pointer.
    
    Sounds like a good idea. Needs some changes to the TupleTableSlotOps 
    interface to avoid the memcpy I presume.
    
    >> Come to think of it, how important is it that we use MinimalTuple
    >> here
    >> at all? Some other representation could be faster to deal with in
    >> TupleHashTableMatch() anyway.
    > 
    > What did you have in mind? That sounds like a good idea orthogonal to
    > reducing the bucket size.
    
    Queries that have a only a small number of groups might might benefit 
    from storing a plain Datum/isnull array instead of a MinimalTuple. That 
    would take more memory when you have a lot of groups though.
    
    > Alternatively, MinimalTuple is not very "minimal", and perhaps we can
    > just make it better.
    
    Yeah. It tries to be compatible with HeapTuple, but perhaps we should 
    give up on that and pack it more tightly instead.
    
    >>> 0004: Removes the "status" field from TupleHashEntryData, using
    >>> firstTuple==NULL to mean "empty", otherwise "in use". Hack: need an
    >>> additional "special" pointer value to mean "input slot" now that
    >>> NULL
    >>> means "empty".
    >>
    >> +1
    > 
    > For the FIRSTTUPLE_INPUTSLOT marker, do you think it's cleaner to use
    > what I did:
    > 
    >    const static MinimalTuple FIRSTTUPLE_INPUTSLOT = (MinimalTuple) 0x1;
    > 
    > or something like:
    > 
    >    static MinimalTupleData dummy = {0};
    >    const static MinimalTuple FIRSTTUPLE_INPUTSLOT = &dummy;
    > 
    > ?
    
    I think I'd do "(MinimalTuple) 0x1" myself, but no strong opinion.
    
    -- 
    Heikki Linnakangas
    Neon (https://neon.tech)
    
    
    
    
  5. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2024-11-21T20:37:56Z

    New patch series attached.
    
      * a few cleanup patches, but 0001 and 0004 can affect initial hash
    table sizing
      * also pack AggStatePerGroupData (to 10 bytes)
      * put additional data in the same chunk as firstTuple to avoid an
    extra pointer an an extra allocation
    
    On Tue, 2024-11-19 at 01:30 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
    > Sounds like a good idea. Needs some changes to the TupleTableSlotOps 
    > interface to avoid the memcpy I presume.
    
    Neither firstTuple nor the additional data have a size known at compile
    time, so it can't be represented by a struct. It seems best to keep
    firstTuple at the beginning so that it matches the SH_KEY_TYPE, and
    then just repalloc() to make room at the end for the additional data,
    which avoids the memcpy unless it crosses a power-of-two boundary.
    
    > > 
    > Queries that have a only a small number of groups might might benefit
    > from storing a plain Datum/isnull array instead of a MinimalTuple.
    > That 
    > would take more memory when you have a lot of groups though.
    
    The current MinimalTuple representation is pretty wasteful for small
    grouping keys, so I don't think it would be hard to beat.
    
    > > Alternatively, MinimalTuple is not very "minimal", and perhaps we
    > > can
    > > just make it better.
    > 
    > Yeah. It tries to be compatible with HeapTuple, but perhaps we should
    > give up on that and pack it more tightly instead.
    
    From the perspective of HashAgg, that seems worthwhile.
    
    In my current patch set, depending on the grouping key and aggregates,
    the chunk size for the combination of the firstTuple with the
    additional data can be just above 32 bytes, which pushes the chunk size
    to 64 bytes. If we cut down the mintuple overhead a bit, more cases
    would fit in 32 bytes. And I think we can: 32 bytes seems reasonable to
    hold a lot of common cases where there's a small grouping key and a
    small pergroup state.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
  6. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-01-07T23:32:07Z

    On Thu, 2024-11-21 at 12:37 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:
    > 
    > New patch series attached.
    
    I committed the earlier cleanup patches and rebased the rest. Attached.
    
    0001 is not quite as clean as I'd like it to be; suggestions welcome.
    It does save a pointer per entry, though, which is substantial.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
  7. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> — 2025-01-12T01:54:51Z

    On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 at 12:32, Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> wrote:
    > I committed the earlier cleanup patches and rebased the rest. Attached.
    
    While I do understand the desire to reduce Hash Agg's memory usage,
    has this really been through enough performance testing to be getting
    committed?
    
    I looked at the changes e0ece2a98 made to
    LookupTupleHashEntry_internal() and saw that you're doing repalloc()
    on the memory for the MinimalTuple just after the
    ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() pallocs that memory. Some of these tuples
    might be quite big and I see your test case has a single INT4 GROUP
    BY, in which case the tuple is narrow. Remember this code is also used
    for set operations, where the tuples to compare might be quite wide.
    Since AllocSet rounds non-external chunks up to the next power-of-2,
    many repallocs() won't require a new chunk as there's likely to be
    space in the existing chunk, but I still seem to be able to measure
    this even when the memcpy() to populate the new chunk from the old one
    isn't needed.
    
    For example:
    
    create table a (a text not null);
    insert into a select repeat(md5(a::text),10) from generate_Series(1,1000) a;
    vacuum freeze analyze a;
    
    groupbya.sql:
    select a,count(*) from a group by a;
    
    psql -c "select pg_prewarm('a');" postgres > /dev/null && for i in
    {1..3}; do pgbench -n -f groupbya.sql -T 10 -M prepared postgres |
    grep tps; done
    
    Before (34c6e6524):
    tps = 1197.271513 (without initial connection time)
    tps = 1201.798286 (without initial connection time)
    tps = 1189.191958 (without initial connection time)
    
    After (e0ece2a98):
    tps = 1036.424401 (without initial connection time)
    tps = 1094.528577 (without initial connection time)
    tps = 1067.820026 (without initial connection time)
    
    12% slower.
    
    Or if I craft the tuple so that the repalloc() needs to switch from a
    256 byte to 512 byte chunk, I get:
    
    create table b (b text not null);
    insert into b select left(repeat(md5(b::text),8),236) from
    generate_Series(1,1000) b;
    vacuum freeze analyze b;
    
    groupbyb.sql:
    select b,count(*) from b group by b;
    
    psql -c "select pg_prewarm('b');" postgres && for i in {1..3}; do
    pgbench -n -f groupbyb.sql -T 10 -M prepared postgres | grep tps; done
    
    Before (34c6e6524)
    tps = 1258.542072 (without initial connection time)
    tps = 1260.423425 (without initial connection time)
    tps = 1244.229721 (without initial connection time)
    
    After (e0ece2a98):
    tps = 1088.773442 (without initial connection time)
    tps = 1068.253603 (without initial connection time)
    tps = 1121.814669 (without initial connection time)
    
    14% slower.
    
    While I understand that this likely helps for when the hashtable size
    is larger than L3 and also when HashAgg is spilling to disk. I don't
    think that making that faster at the expense of slowing down workloads
    that fit into memory does not seem like a nice trade-off.
    
    I wonder if there's some other better way of doing this. Would it be
    worth having some function like ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() that
    accepts an additional parameter so that the palloc allocates N more
    bytes at the end?  Maybe it's worth hunting around to see if there's
    any other executor nodes that could benefit from that infrastructure.
    The other problem you've created by doing the repalloc() is that, if
    you still want the patch you posted in [1] then the repalloc() can't
    be done since bump context don't allow it.
    
    It would be quite nice if there were some way to have both of these
    optimisations in a way that didn't need any repalloc().
    
    David
    
    [1] https://postgr.es/m/3d9b8f7609039c5775cc8272f09054faea794c66.camel@j-davis.com
    
    
    
    
  8. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-01-13T22:11:18Z

    On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 14:54 +1300, David Rowley wrote:
    > While I do understand the desire to reduce Hash Agg's memory usage,
    > has this really been through enough performance testing to be getting
    > committed?
    
    Perhaps not. I'm going to revert it while we sort it out, and hopefully
    we can find a solution because it's a substantial memory savings.
    
    
    > I wonder if there's some other better way of doing this. Would it be
    > worth having some function like ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() that
    > accepts an additional parameter so that the palloc allocates N more
    > bytes at the end?  Maybe it's worth hunting around to see if there's
    > any other executor nodes that could benefit from that infrastructure.
    
    That would be convenient, but doesn't seem like a great separation of
    responsibilities. Perhaps some API that separated the length
    calculation, and accepted a caller-supplied buffer?
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
    
    
    
    
  9. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> — 2025-01-14T09:01:57Z

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 11:11, Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 14:54 +1300, David Rowley wrote:
    > > I wonder if there's some other better way of doing this. Would it be
    > > worth having some function like ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() that
    > > accepts an additional parameter so that the palloc allocates N more
    > > bytes at the end?  Maybe it's worth hunting around to see if there's
    > > any other executor nodes that could benefit from that infrastructure.
    >
    > That would be convenient, but doesn't seem like a great separation of
    > responsibilities. Perhaps some API that separated the length
    > calculation, and accepted a caller-supplied buffer?
    
    The trick would be to ensure ExecClearTuple() still works. You
    obviously don't want to try and pfree() something that isn't a pointer
    to a palloc'd chunk. I'm not sure what the best API is, but I do see
    there are other places that might benefit from something that allows
    this.  The two usages of ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() in nodeMemoize.c
    are candidates.
    
    David
    
    
    
    
  10. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> — 2025-01-14T18:11:21Z

    On 2025-Jan-14, David Rowley wrote:
    
    > The trick would be to ensure ExecClearTuple() still works. You
    > obviously don't want to try and pfree() something that isn't a pointer
    > to a palloc'd chunk. I'm not sure what the best API is, but I do see
    > there are other places that might benefit from something that allows
    > this.  The two usages of ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() in nodeMemoize.c
    > are candidates.
    
    Maybe it would work to set a new flag in TupleTableSlot->tts_flag so
    that ExecClearTuple() knows to handle it in some particular way (i.e.,
    just skip the ->clear call altogether), with the idea that the tuple
    memory belongs elsewhere and must not be freed by ExecClearTuple?
    
    -- 
    Álvaro Herrera         PostgreSQL Developer  —  https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
    "Los dioses no protegen a los insensatos.  Éstos reciben protección de
    otros insensatos mejor dotados" (Luis Wu, Mundo Anillo)
    
    
    
    
  11. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-01-14T18:47:32Z

    On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 22:01 +1300, David Rowley wrote:
    > The trick would be to ensure ExecClearTuple() still works.
    
    I'm confused by this. The comment over copy_minimal_slot says:
    
    /*
     * Return a copy of minimal tuple representing the contents of the
    slot.
     * The copy needs to be palloc'd in the current memory context. The
    slot
     * itself is expected to remain unaffected. It is *not* expected to
    have
     * meaningful "system columns" in the copy. The copy is not be "owned"
    by
     * the slot i.e. the caller has to take responsibility to free memory
     * consumed by the slot.
     */
    
    So why would ExecClearTuple() be a problem?
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
    
    
    
  12. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> — 2025-01-14T19:38:27Z

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 07:47, Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 22:01 +1300, David Rowley wrote:
    > > The trick would be to ensure ExecClearTuple() still works.
    >
    > I'm confused by this. The comment over copy_minimal_slot says:
    
    I must have confused TupleTableSlotOps.copy_minimal_tuple with
    get_minimal_tuple. Admittedly, I didn't look at the code and was
    working from memory, which must be faulty.  Sounds like this makes
    things easier. Good.
    
    David
    
    
    
    
  13. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-02-08T01:13:06Z

    On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 14:54 +1300, David Rowley wrote:
    > I wonder if there's some other better way of doing this. Would it be
    > worth having some function like ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() that
    > accepts an additional parameter so that the palloc allocates N more
    > bytes at the end?
    
    Attached a new series that implements this idea.
    
    I also added in the change to use the Bump allocator for the tablecxt.
    In my simple test, the whole patch series reduces HashAgg memory usage
    by more than 40% and increases speed by a few percent.
    
    In your test, patch 0003 seemed to have a regression, but then 0007
    made up for it (and maybe a hair faster). I investigated, but the
    profile was a bit misleading so I'm not clear on why 0003 came out
    slower. I can investigate further, but the primary purpose of this
    patch series is reducing memory usage, so as long as the overall series
    has no regression then I think it's fine.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
  14. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-02-13T01:01:29Z

    On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 17:13 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:
    > On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 14:54 +1300, David Rowley wrote:
    > > I wonder if there's some other better way of doing this. Would it
    > > be
    > > worth having some function like ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple() that
    > > accepts an additional parameter so that the palloc allocates N more
    > > bytes at the end?
    > 
    > Attached a new series that implements this idea.
    
    Attached a new patchset that doesn't change the API for
    ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple(). Instead, I'm using
    ExecFetchSlotMinimalTuple(), which avoids the extra memcpy if the slot
    is TTSOpsMinimalTuple, which is what HashAgg uses. I separated out the
    change to use ExecFetchSlotMinimalTuple() into 0004 to illustrate the
    performance impact.
    
    DATA:
      create table a (a text not null);
      insert into a select repeat(md5(a::text),10)
        from generate_Series(1,1000) a;
      vacuum freeze analyze a;
      create table b (b text not null);
      insert into b select repeat(md5(b::text),10)
        from generate_Series(1001,2000) b;
      vacuum freeze analyze b;
    
    QUERY: select a,count(*) from a group by a;
    
      master: tps = 2054.742658 (without initial connection time)
      0001:   tps = 2068.620429 (without initial connection time)
      0002:   tps = 2027.046422 (without initial connection time)
      0003:   tps = 1951.392904 (without initial connection time)
      0004:   tps = 2071.690037 (without initial connection time)
    
    QUERY: select * from a except select * from b;
    
      master: tps = 1720.168862 (without initial connection time)
      0001:   tps = 1703.040810 (without initial connection time)
      0002:   tps = 1687.191715 (without initial connection time)
      0003:   tps = 1579.975535 (without initial connection time)
      0004:   tps = 1616.741447 (without initial connection time)
    
    So the GROUP BY query has no regression (because there's no additional
    copy) and the EXCEPT query has about a 6% regression.
    
    The v6 series doesn't have that regression for set operations, but it
    requires the somewhat-messy ExecCopySlotMinimalTupleExtra() API. If you
    think you'll use that in nodeMemoize, then the API change is worth it.
    If not, it feels a bit like a hack.
    
    Another thing I did in the v7 series is I stored the additional data
    before the firstTuple. It seems cleaner to store the fixed-length data
    first -- I could do the same thing if we go with
    ExecCopySlotMinimalTupleExtra().
    
    In any case, it seems like we have agreement to switch to the Bump
    context, so I'll do another round of tests to see if there are any
    downsides, then clean it up and commit v7-0001.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
  15. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-02-18T05:49:51Z

    On Wed, 2025-02-12 at 17:01 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:
    > In any case, it seems like we have agreement to switch to the Bump
    > context, so I'll do another round of tests to see if there are any
    > downsides, then clean it up and commit v7-0001.
    
    Results for v7-0001 (switch to Bump Allocator for table entries).
    
    Setup:
    
      SET work_mem='10GB';
      SET max_parallel_workers=0;
      SET max_parallel_workers_per_gather=0;
      
    
      -- T1: group size avg ~ 1.5
      create table t1(i int8, j numeric);
      insert into t1 select random(1,10000000),sqrt(g)
        from generate_series(1,10000000) g;
      vacuum freeze analyze t1; checkpoint;
    
      -- T100: group size avg ~100
      create table t100(i int8, j numeric);
      insert into t100 select random(1,100000),sqrt(g)
        from generate_series(1,10000000) g;
      vacuum freeze analyze t100; checkpoint;
    
    Q1: explain analyze select i, count(j) from THETABLE group by i;
    
                         t1              t100
      master:      776MB / 4085ms    14MB / 1375ms
      patch:       632MB / 4192ms    10MB / 1375ms 
    
    Q2: explain analyze select i, count(j), max(j), sum(j)
          from THETABLE group by i;
    
                         t1              t100
      master:     3280MB / 7817ms    54MB / 4194ms
      patch:      3048MB / 8103ms    54MB / 4492ms
    
    
    While it's a memory reduction in all cases, and a ~20% memory reduction
    for by-value types; there appears to be some slowdown for by-reference
    types -- 7% for Q2 when the group size is 100.
    
    I profiled it and it seems to be spending more time in
    advance_aggregates. Since I didn't change that code, the only
    explanation I have for that is that with everything in one memory
    context, the by-reference values end up near enough to the group key
    and pergroup state to benefit from caching effects.
    
    I'm not sure that explanation makes sense though, because even in the
    old code where they are both in the same memory context, why would we
    expect the transition values to be close to the grouping key or
    pergroup state?
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
    
    
    
  16. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> — 2025-02-28T04:09:13Z

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 at 14:01, Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> wrote:
    > Attached a new patchset that doesn't change the API for
    > ExecCopySlotMinimalTuple(). Instead, I'm using
    > ExecFetchSlotMinimalTuple(), which avoids the extra memcpy if the slot
    > is TTSOpsMinimalTuple, which is what HashAgg uses. I separated out the
    > change to use ExecFetchSlotMinimalTuple() into 0004 to illustrate the
    > performance impact.
    
    Some review comments:
    
    * my_log2() takes a "long" parameter type but transitionSpace is a
    "Size". These types aren't the same width on all platforms we support.
    Maybe pg_nextpower2_size_t() is a better option.
    
    * Should the following have MAXALIGN(tupleSize) on the right side of
    the expression?
    
    tupleChunkSize = tupleSize
    
    I understand this was missing before, but both bump.c does consume at
    least MAXALIGN(<req_size>) in BumpAlloc().
    
    * while (16 * maxBlockSize > work_mem * 1024L)
    
    The 1024L predates the change made in 041e8b95. "1024L" needs to be
    replaced with "(Size) 1024"
    
    Maybe you could just replace the while loop and the subsequent "if" check with:
    
    /*
     * Like CreateWorkExprContext(), use smaller sizings for smaller work_mem,
     * to avoid large jumps in memory usage.
     */
    maxBlockSize = pg_prevpower2_size_t(work_mem * (Size) 1024 / 16);
    
    /* But no bigger than ALLOCSET_DEFAULT_MAXSIZE */
    maxBlockSize = Min(maxBlockSize, ALLOCSET_DEFAULT_MAXSIZE);
    
    /* and no smaller than ALLOCSET_DEFAULT_INITSIZE */
    maxBlockSize = Max(maxBlockSize, ALLOCSET_DEFAULT_INITSIZE);
    
    I believe that gives the same result without the looping.
    
    * In hash_create_memory(), can you get rid of the minContextSize and
    initBlockSize variables?
    
    * Is it worth an Assert() theck additionalsize > 0?
    
     * The amount of space available is the additionalsize requested in the call
     * to BuildTupleHashTable(). If additionalsize was specified as zero, no
     * additional space is available and this function should not be called.
     */
    static inline void *
    TupleHashEntryGetAdditional(TupleHashTable hashtable, TupleHashEntry entry)
    {
    return (char *) entry->firstTuple - hashtable->additionalsize;
    }
    
    Benchmarks:
    
    I was also experimenting with the performance of this using the
    following test case:
    
    create table c (a int not null);
    insert into c select a from generate_Series(1,1000) a;
    vacuum freeze analyze c;
    
    Query: select a,count(*) from c group by a;
    
    Average TPS over 10x 10 second runs with -M prepared
    
    master: 3653.9853988
    v7-0001: 3741.815979
    v7-0001+0002: 3737.4313064
    v7-0001+0002+0003: 3834.6271706
    v7-0001+0002+0004+0004: 3912.1158887
    
    I also tried out changing hash_agg_check_limits() so that it no longer
    calls MemoryContextMemAllocated and instead uses ->mem_allocated
    directly and with all the other patches got:
    
    v7-0001+0002+0004+0004+extra: 4049.0732381
    
    We probably shouldn't do exactly that as it be better not to access
    that internal field from outside the memory context code.  A static
    inline function in memutils.h that handles the non-recursive callers
    might be nice.
    
    I've attached my results of running your test in graph form. I also
    see a small regression for these small scale tests. I wondering if
    it's worth mocking up some code to see what the performance would be
    like without the additional memcpy() that's new to
    LookupTupleHashEntry_internal().  How about hacking something up that
    adds an additionalsize field to TupleDesc and then set that field to
    your additional size and have heap_form_minimal_tuple() allocate that
    much extra memory?
    
    David
    
  17. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-03-05T01:28:07Z

    On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 17:09 +1300, David Rowley wrote:
    > * my_log2() takes a "long" parameter type but transitionSpace is a
    > "Size". These types aren't the same width on all platforms we
    > support.
    > Maybe pg_nextpower2_size_t() is a better option.
    
    Done.
    
    > * Should the following have MAXALIGN(tupleSize) on the right side of
    > the expression?
    
    Done.
    
    > Maybe you could just replace the while loop and the subsequent "if"
    > check with:
    
    Done.
    
    > * In hash_create_memory(), can you get rid of the minContextSize and
    > initBlockSize variables?
    
    Done.
    
    > * Is it worth an Assert() theck additionalsize > 0?
    
    One caller happens to call it unconditionally. It seems better to
    return NULL if additionalsize == 0.
    
    > create table c (a int not null);
    > insert into c select a from generate_Series(1,1000) a;
    > vacuum freeze analyze c;
    
    The schema you posted is the narrower table, and your numbers better
    match the wide table you posted before. Was there a mixup?
    
    > master: 3653.9853988
    > v7-0001: 3741.815979
    > v7-0001+0002: 3737.4313064
    > v7-0001+0002+0003: 3834.6271706
    > v7-0001+0002+0004+0004: 3912.1158887
    > 
    > I also tried out changing hash_agg_check_limits() so that it no
    > longer
    > calls MemoryContextMemAllocated and instead uses ->mem_allocated
    > directly and with all the other patches got:
    > 
    > v7-0001+0002+0004+0004+extra: 4049.0732381
    
    Great!
    
    > We probably shouldn't do exactly that as it be better not to access
    > that internal field from outside the memory context code.  A static
    > inline function in memutils.h that handles the non-recursive callers
    > might be nice.
    
    Both the metacxt as well as the context used for byref transition
    values can have child contexts, so we should keep the recursion. I just
    inlined MemoryContextMemAllocated() and MemoryContextTraverseNext(). 
    
    > I've attached my results of running your test in graph form.
    
    Thank you!
    
    My results (with wide tables):
    
                            GROUP BY      EXCEPT
       master:                  2151        1732
       entire v8 series:        2054        1740
    
    In some of the patches in the middle of the series, I ran into some
    hard-to-explain regressions, so consider my results preliminary. I may
    need to profile and figure out what's going on. I didn't see any
    overall regression.
    
    But the series overall seems about even, while the memory consumption
    is ~35% lower for the example I posted in the first message in the
    thread.
    
    
    >   How about hacking something up that
    > adds an additionalsize field to TupleDesc and then set that field to
    > your additional size and have heap_form_minimal_tuple() allocate that
    > much extra memory?
    
    I assume we wouldn't want to actually add a field to TupleDescData,
    right?
    
    When I reworked the ExecCopySlotMinimalTupleExtra() API to place the
    extra memory before the tuple, it worked out to be a bit cleaner with
    fewer special cases, so I'm fine with that API now.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
  18. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-03-22T16:39:30Z

    On Tue, 2025-03-04 at 17:28 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:
    > My results (with wide tables):
    > 
    >                         GROUP BY      EXCEPT
    >    master:                  2151        1732
    >    entire v8 series:        2054        1740
    
    I'm not sure what I did with the EXCEPT test, above, perhaps I had
    filled the test table twice by mistake or something?
    
    New numbers below:
    
    Data:
    
      create table c (a int not null);
      insert into c select a from generate_Series(1,1000) a;
    
      create table big(i int, j int);
      insert into big select g, 1 from generate_series(1,10000000) g;
    
      create table wide (t text not null);
      insert into wide
        select repeat(md5(a::text),10)
        from generate_Series(1,1000) a;
    
      create table wide_copy (t text not null);
      insert into wide_copy select * from wide;
    
      vacuum freeze analyze;
    
    
    Results:
    
                  c(tps) wide(tps) except(tps)  big(ms)  big(MiB)
    
    91ecb5e0bc     4768      2091        2317     3853       768
    master         4942      2063        2323     3831       768
    0001           4932      2038        2361     3712       616
    0002           4601      2034        2365     3753       616
    0003           4850      2040        2418     3749       616
    0004           4744      2065        2282     3665       488
    0005           4630      1994        2307     3665       488
    0006           4809      2063        2394     3646       488
    0007           4752      2070        2479     3659       488
    
    Note: c.sql, wide.sql, and except.sql are measured in tps, higher is
    better. big.sql is measured in ms and MiB, lower is better.
    
    For some reason I'm getting a decline of about 3% in the c.sql test
    that seems to be associated with the accessor functions, even when
    inlined. I'm also not seeing as much benefit from the inlining of the
    MemoryContextMemAllocated(). But these mixed test results are minor
    compared with the memory savings of 35% and the more consistently-
    improved performance of 5% on the larger test (which is also integers),
    so I plan to commit it.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
  19. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-03-25T06:14:43Z

    On Sat, 2025-03-22 at 09:39 -0700, Jeff Davis wrote:
    > For some reason I'm getting a decline of about 3% in the c.sql test
    > that seems to be associated with the accessor functions, even when
    > inlined. I'm also not seeing as much benefit from the inlining of the
    > MemoryContextMemAllocated(). But these mixed test results are minor
    > compared with the memory savings of 35% and the more consistently-
    > improved performance of 5% on the larger test (which is also
    > integers),
    > so I plan to commit it.
    
    Committed, except for v9-0007. (Note that some commits were combined;
    they were only separated originally for performance testing.)
    
    I attached a new version of v9-0007, now v10-0001, that uses
    recurse=false for two of the memory contexts. I didn't see a major
    speedup, but posting here anyway.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis
    
    
  20. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2025-06-13T06:33:56Z

    Hi,
    
    I was looking at this code recently and noticed the following.
    Although the commit [1] removed the ->additional field, some function
    comments were not updated to reflect this, so now they seemed a bit
    stale.
    
    1. BuildTupleHashTable(...) still says:
    ----------
    ...
     * additionalsize: size of data stored in ->additional
    ...
    ----------
    
    
    2. Simiarly, LookupTupleHashEntry(...) still says:
    ----------
    ...
     * false if it existed already.  ->additional_data in the new entry has
     * been zeroed.
    ...
    ----------
    
    ======
    [1] https://github.com/postgres/postgres/commit/626df47ad9db809dc8f93330175ab95b75914721
    
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia
    
    
    
    
  21. Re: Reduce TupleHashEntryData struct size by half

    Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> — 2025-06-13T17:08:43Z

    On Fri, 2025-06-13 at 16:33 +1000, Peter Smith wrote:
    > I was looking at this code recently and noticed the following.
    > Although the commit [1] removed the ->additional field, some function
    > comments were not updated to reflect this, so now they seemed a bit
    > stale.
    
    Thank you! Fixed.
    
    Regards,
    	Jeff Davis