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  1. Time to move on...

    lockhart@fourpalms.org — 2002-11-15T06:38:19Z

    Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL 
    steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to 
    participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is 
    time to take a break and to move on to other projects.
    
    Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has 
    been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing 
    PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.
    
                          - Thomas
    
    
    
  2. Re: Time to move on...

    Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> — 2002-11-15T06:46:41Z

    > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
    > steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
    > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
    > time to take a break and to move on to other projects.
    
    Thanks for all your work, Thomas.  I hope to one day achieve similarly -
    time be willing!
    
    To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new
    member of the steering committee?
    
    Chris
    
    
    
  3. Re: Time to move on...

    Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> — 2002-11-15T07:48:55Z

    Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    > 
    > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
    > steering committee.
    
    Wow.  That was totally unexpected.
    
    A sad day.  :-/
    
    
    > It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
    > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
    > time to take a break and to move on to other projects.
    
    Good luck Thomas.
    
    Truly hope you're going to have heaps of fun, enjoy yourself, and find
    the new projects rewarding too.
    
    Regards and best wishes,
    
    Justin Clift
    
    
    > Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
    > been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
    > PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.
    > 
    >                       - Thomas
    
    -- 
    "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
    who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
    first group; there was less competition there."
       - Indira Gandhi
    
    
  4. Re: Time to move on...

    Mark Pritchard <mark.pritchard@modus.com.au> — 2002-11-15T07:53:10Z

    Hey Thomas,
    
    Although we have never corresponded, I just wanted to say thank you to 
    yourself and all the other hackers who have devoted their time voluntarily to 
    PostgreSQL. It really is appreciated.
    
    Cheers
    
    Mark Pritchard
    
    On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:38, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
    > steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
    > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
    > time to take a break and to move on to other projects.
    >
    > Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
    > been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
    > PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.
    >
    >                       - Thomas
    >
    >
    > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
    > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
    
    
    
  5. Re: Time to move on...

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2002-11-15T15:23:03Z

    "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
    > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new
    > member of the steering committee?
    
    Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  6. Re: Time to move on...

    Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2002-11-15T17:03:23Z

    Tom Lane wrote:
    > "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
    > > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new
    > > member of the steering committee?
    > 
    > Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".
    
    The logic usually has been to add people to core who are so involved in
    the release process that we couldn't imagine scheduling a release
    without them.
    
    I am not saying all current core members are that involved, but at the
    time they were added to core, they were.
    
    -- 
      Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
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  7. Re: Time to move on...

    Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> — 2002-11-15T17:37:57Z

    On Friday 15 November 2002 01:38, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
    > steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
    > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
    > time to take a break and to move on to other projects.
    
    I'll echo the sad day response of earlier.  You have done quite a bit for the 
    project, and you will be missed.
    
    > Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
    > been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
    > PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.
    
    Thomas, good luck.
    -- 
    Lamar Owen
    WGCR Internet Radio
    1 Peter 4:11
    
    
  8. Re: Time to move on...

    Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> — 2002-11-15T17:40:11Z

    On Friday 15 November 2002 10:23, Tom Lane wrote:
    > "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
    > > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a
    > > new member of the steering committee?
    >
    > Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".
    
    IMHO, replacement of a core member should be treated the same as bringing in a 
    new core member, which, IIRC, is by invitation and vote of the balance of the 
    core members.
    
    If a replacement is immediately necessary, that is.  Having five core versus 
    six core isn't a great handicap, as the potential replacement pool consists 
    of people who are already doing development now.  Having an odd number of 
    core has its advantages.
    -- 
    Lamar Owen
    WGCR Internet Radio
    1 Peter 4:11
    
    
  9. Re: Time to move on...

    Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com> — 2002-11-15T20:20:09Z

    On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    
    > Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
    > steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
    > participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
    > time to take a break and to move on to other projects.
    
    I'm really sorry to hear that.  Good luck in all of your future endeavors.
    
    Vince.
    -- 
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             Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio.
    
    
    
  10. Re: Time to move on...

    Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2002-11-16T03:05:47Z

    Lamar Owen wrote:
    > On Friday 15 November 2002 10:23, Tom Lane wrote:
    > > "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:
    > > > To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a
    > > > new member of the steering committee?
    > >
    > > Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".
    > 
    > IMHO, replacement of a core member should be treated the same as bringing in a 
    > new core member, which, IIRC, is by invitation and vote of the balance of the 
    > core members.
    > 
    > If a replacement is immediately necessary, that is.  Having five core versus 
    > six core isn't a great handicap, as the potential replacement pool consists 
    > of people who are already doing development now.  Having an odd number of 
    > core has its advantages.
    
    I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much
    more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday,
    and deal with private issues like discipline.  I think we deal with such
    issues perhaps 2-4 times a year.
    
    -- 
      Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
      pgman@candle.pha.pa.us               |  (610) 359-1001
      +  If your life is a hard drive,     |  13 Roberts Road
      +  Christ can be your backup.        |  Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
    
    
  11. Re: Time to move on...

    Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> — 2002-11-16T06:07:11Z

    > I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much
    > more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday,
    > and deal with private issues like discipline.  I think we deal with such
    > issues perhaps 2-4 times a year.
    
    OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...
    
    Chris
    
    
    
    
  12. Re: Time to move on...

    Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> — 2002-11-16T06:11:09Z

    On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
    > > I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much
    > > more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday,
    > > and deal with private issues like discipline.  I think we deal with such
    > > issues perhaps 2-4 times a year.
    
    > OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...
    
    committers != core
    -- 
    Lamar Owen
    WGCR Internet Radio
    1 Peter 4:11
    
    
  13. Re: Time to move on...

    Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> — 2002-11-16T06:21:42Z

    Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> writes:
    > On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
    > > OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...
    > 
    > committers != core
    
    Is there any reason for this distinction?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Neil
    
    -- 
    Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> || PGP Key ID: DB3C29FC
    
    
    
  14. Re: Time to move on...

    Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2002-11-16T14:10:02Z

    Neil Conway wrote:
    > Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> writes:
    > > On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
    > > > OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...
    > > 
    > > committers != core
    > 
    > Is there any reason for this distinction?
    
    I assume you are asking why there is core?  It is really just for
    getting a quick vote among folks for final release date, and for
    discussing things with individuals and companies who require a private
    conversation among PostgreSQL representatives.
    
    -- 
      Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
      pgman@candle.pha.pa.us               |  (610) 359-1001
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      +  Christ can be your backup.        |  Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073