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  1. Add default roles for file/program access

  2. Remove explicit superuser checks in favor of ACLs

  3. Support new default roles with adminpack

  1. Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2017-12-31T19:19:39Z

    Greetings,

This patch adds a new default role called 'pg_access_server_files' which
allows an administrator to GRANT to a non-superuser role the ability to
access server-side files through PostgreSQL (as the user the database is
running as).  By itself, having this role allows a non-superuser to use
server-side COPY and to use file_fdw (if installed by a superuser and
GRANT'd USAGE on it).

Further, this patch moves the privilege check for the remaining misc
file functions from explicit superuser checks to the GRANT system,
similar to what's done for pg_ls_logdir() and others.  Lastly, these
functions are changed to allow a user with the 'pg_access_server_files'
role to be able to access files outside of the PG data directory.

This follows on and continues what was recently done with the
lo_import/export functions.  There's other superuser checks to replace
with grant'able default roles, but those probably make more sense as
independent patches.  I continue to be of the opinion that it'd be nice
to have more fine-grained control over these functions to limit the
access granted, but nothing here prevents that from being done and this
at least allows some movement away from having to have roles with
superuser access.

Thanks!

Stephen

  2. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> — 2018-01-02T10:01:57Z

    On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> This patch adds a new default role called 'pg_access_server_files' which
> allows an administrator to GRANT to a non-superuser role the ability to
> access server-side files through PostgreSQL (as the user the database is
> running as).  By itself, having this role allows a non-superuser to use
> server-side COPY and to use file_fdw (if installed by a superuser and
> GRANT'd USAGE on it).
>
> Further, this patch moves the privilege check for the remaining misc
> file functions from explicit superuser checks to the GRANT system,
> similar to what's done for pg_ls_logdir() and others.  Lastly, these
> functions are changed to allow a user with the 'pg_access_server_files'
> role to be able to access files outside of the PG data directory.
>
> This follows on and continues what was recently done with the
> lo_import/export functions.  There's other superuser checks to replace
> with grant'able default roles, but those probably make more sense as
> independent patches.  I continue to be of the opinion that it'd be nice
> to have more fine-grained control over these functions to limit the
> access granted, but nothing here prevents that from being done and this
> at least allows some movement away from having to have roles with
> superuser access.
>

Would it make sense to separate out:
* write from read. E.g. a pg_write_server_files/pg_read_server_files? ISTM
that will turn into a pretty common request...
* execute from read/write, so COPY FROM PROGRAM etc would be a separate
role?

I realize we don't want to go overboard with the number of roles here, but
at least separating read from write seems useful.

-- 
 Magnus Hagander
 Me: https://www.hagander.net/ <http://www.hagander.net/>
 Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/ <http://www.redpill-linpro.com/>

  3. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-01-02T12:08:46Z

    Magnus,

* Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> > This patch adds a new default role called 'pg_access_server_files' which
> > allows an administrator to GRANT to a non-superuser role the ability to
> > access server-side files through PostgreSQL (as the user the database is
> > running as).  By itself, having this role allows a non-superuser to use
> > server-side COPY and to use file_fdw (if installed by a superuser and
> > GRANT'd USAGE on it).
> >
> > Further, this patch moves the privilege check for the remaining misc
> > file functions from explicit superuser checks to the GRANT system,
> > similar to what's done for pg_ls_logdir() and others.  Lastly, these
> > functions are changed to allow a user with the 'pg_access_server_files'
> > role to be able to access files outside of the PG data directory.
> >
> > This follows on and continues what was recently done with the
> > lo_import/export functions.  There's other superuser checks to replace
> > with grant'able default roles, but those probably make more sense as
> > independent patches.  I continue to be of the opinion that it'd be nice
> > to have more fine-grained control over these functions to limit the
> > access granted, but nothing here prevents that from being done and this
> > at least allows some movement away from having to have roles with
> > superuser access.
> 
> Would it make sense to separate out:
> * write from read. E.g. a pg_write_server_files/pg_read_server_files? ISTM
> that will turn into a pretty common request...

Ok.

> * execute from read/write, so COPY FROM PROGRAM etc would be a separate
> role?

Suggestions on a name for this..?  pg_server_copy_program?

> I realize we don't want to go overboard with the number of roles here, but
> at least separating read from write seems useful.

Yeah, these are certainly good suggestions for the COPY case.  I had set
out thihking about pg_read/write_file and we have the read/write
seperation there through the GRANT rights on the functions themselves,
but we don't have that for COPY without different roles.

I'll add those in and publish a new patch soon.

Thanks!

Stephen

  4. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> — 2018-01-02T17:09:00Z

    On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:

> Magnus,
>
> * Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
> wrote:
> > > This patch adds a new default role called 'pg_access_server_files'
> which
> > > allows an administrator to GRANT to a non-superuser role the ability to
> > > access server-side files through PostgreSQL (as the user the database
> is
> > > running as).  By itself, having this role allows a non-superuser to use
> > > server-side COPY and to use file_fdw (if installed by a superuser and
> > > GRANT'd USAGE on it).
> > >
> > > Further, this patch moves the privilege check for the remaining misc
> > > file functions from explicit superuser checks to the GRANT system,
> > > similar to what's done for pg_ls_logdir() and others.  Lastly, these
> > > functions are changed to allow a user with the 'pg_access_server_files'
> > > role to be able to access files outside of the PG data directory.
> > >
> > > This follows on and continues what was recently done with the
> > > lo_import/export functions.  There's other superuser checks to replace
> > > with grant'able default roles, but those probably make more sense as
> > > independent patches.  I continue to be of the opinion that it'd be nice
> > > to have more fine-grained control over these functions to limit the
> > > access granted, but nothing here prevents that from being done and this
> > > at least allows some movement away from having to have roles with
> > > superuser access.
> >
> > Would it make sense to separate out:
> > * write from read. E.g. a pg_write_server_files/pg_read_server_files?
> ISTM
> > that will turn into a pretty common request...
>
> Ok.
>
> > * execute from read/write, so COPY FROM PROGRAM etc would be a separate
> > role?
>
> Suggestions on a name for this..?  pg_server_copy_program?
>

Presumably it would also be used in postgres_fdw, so that seems like a bad
name. Maybe pg_exec_server_command?

-- 
 Magnus Hagander
 Me: https://www.hagander.net/ <http://www.hagander.net/>
 Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/ <http://www.redpill-linpro.com/>

  5. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-01-02T17:13:02Z

    Magnus,

* Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> > * Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > This patch adds a new default role called 'pg_access_server_files'
> > which
> > > > allows an administrator to GRANT to a non-superuser role the ability to
> > > > access server-side files through PostgreSQL (as the user the database
> > is
> > > > running as).  By itself, having this role allows a non-superuser to use
> > > > server-side COPY and to use file_fdw (if installed by a superuser and
> > > > GRANT'd USAGE on it).
> > > >
> > > > Further, this patch moves the privilege check for the remaining misc
> > > > file functions from explicit superuser checks to the GRANT system,
> > > > similar to what's done for pg_ls_logdir() and others.  Lastly, these
> > > > functions are changed to allow a user with the 'pg_access_server_files'
> > > > role to be able to access files outside of the PG data directory.
> > > >
> > > > This follows on and continues what was recently done with the
> > > > lo_import/export functions.  There's other superuser checks to replace
> > > > with grant'able default roles, but those probably make more sense as
> > > > independent patches.  I continue to be of the opinion that it'd be nice
> > > > to have more fine-grained control over these functions to limit the
> > > > access granted, but nothing here prevents that from being done and this
> > > > at least allows some movement away from having to have roles with
> > > > superuser access.
> > >
> > > Would it make sense to separate out:
> > > * write from read. E.g. a pg_write_server_files/pg_read_server_files?
> > ISTM
> > > that will turn into a pretty common request...
> >
> > Ok.
> >
> > > * execute from read/write, so COPY FROM PROGRAM etc would be a separate
> > > role?
> >
> > Suggestions on a name for this..?  pg_server_copy_program?
> 
> Presumably it would also be used in postgres_fdw, so that seems like a bad
> name. Maybe pg_exec_server_command?

I'm guessing you mean file_fdw.. :)

That name sounds alright to me though.

Thanks!

Stephen

  6. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Ryan Murphy <ryanfmurphy@gmail.com> — 2018-01-06T20:01:41Z

    Stephen, so far I've read thru your patch and familiarized myself with some of the auth functionality in pg_authid.h and src/backend/utils/adt/acl.c

The only question I have so far about your patch is the last several hunks of the diff, which remove superuser checks without adding anything immediately obvious in their place:

...
@@ -195,11 +205,6 @@ pg_read_file(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
    char       *filename;
    text       *result;
 
-   if (!superuser())
-       ereport(ERROR,
-               (errcode(ERRCODE_INSUFFICIENT_PRIVILEGE),
-                (errmsg("must be superuser to read files"))));
-
    /* handle optional arguments */
    if (PG_NARGS() >= 3)
    {
@@ -236,11 +241,6 @@ pg_read_binary_file(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
    char       *filename;
    bytea      *result;
 
-   if (!superuser())
-       ereport(ERROR,
-               (errcode(ERRCODE_INSUFFICIENT_PRIVILEGE),
-                (errmsg("must be superuser to read files"))));
-
    /* handle optional arguments */
    if (PG_NARGS() >= 3)
    {
@@ -313,11 +313,6 @@ pg_stat_file(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
    TupleDesc   tupdesc;
    bool        missing_ok = false;
 
-   if (!superuser())
-       ereport(ERROR,
-               (errcode(ERRCODE_INSUFFICIENT_PRIVILEGE),
-                (errmsg("must be superuser to get file information"))));
-
    /* check the optional argument */
    if (PG_NARGS() == 2)
        missing_ok = PG_GETARG_BOOL(1);
...

I wanted to ask if you have reason to believe that these checks were not necessary (and therefore can be deleted instead of replaced by is_member_of_role() checks like you did elsewhere).  I still have limited understanding of the overall code, so really just asking because it's the first thing that jumped out.

Best,
Ryan

  7. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-01-06T21:00:47Z

    Greetings Ryan!

* Ryan Murphy (ryanfmurphy@gmail.com) wrote:
> Stephen, so far I've read thru your patch and familiarized myself with some of the auth functionality in pg_authid.h and src/backend/utils/adt/acl.c
> 
> The only question I have so far about your patch is the last several hunks of the diff, which remove superuser checks without adding anything immediately obvious in their place:

Ah, I realize it's not immediately obvious, but they *are* replaced by
something else- REVOKE statements in the "system_views.sql" file in
src/backend/catalog:

REVOKE EXECUTE ON FUNCTION pg_read_file(text) FROM public;
REVOKE EXECUTE ON FUNCTION pg_read_file(text,bigint,bigint) FROM public;
REVOKE EXECUTE ON FUNCTION pg_read_file(text,bigint,bigint,boolean) FROM public;

REVOKE EXECUTE ON FUNCTION pg_read_binary_file(text) FROM public;
REVOKE EXECUTE ON FUNCTION pg_read_binary_file(text,bigint,bigint) FROM public;
REVOKE EXECUTE ON FUNCTION pg_read_binary_file(text,bigint,bigint,boolean) FROM public;

REVOKE EXECUTE ON FUNCTION pg_stat_file(text) FROM public;
REVOKE EXECUTE ON FUNCTION pg_stat_file(text,boolean) FROM public;

That script is run as part of 'initdb' to set things up in the system.
By issueing those REVOKE statements, no one but the cluster owner (a
superuser) is able to run those functions- unless a superuser decides
that it's ok for others to run them, in which case they would run:

GRANT EXECUTE ON FUNCTION pg_read_file(text) TO myuser;

> I wanted to ask if you have reason to believe that these checks were not necessary (and therefore can be deleted instead of replaced by is_member_of_role() checks like you did elsewhere).  I still have limited understanding of the overall code, so really just asking because it's the first thing that jumped out.

The places where is_member_of_role() is being used are cases where it's
not possible to use the GRANT system.  For example, we don't have a way
to say "GRANT read-files-outside-the-data-directory TO role1;" in the
normal GRANT system, and so a default role is added to allow that
specific right to be GRANT'd to non-superuser.

One would need to have both the default role AND EXECUTE rights on the
function to be able to, say, run:

SELECT pg_read_file('/data/load_area/load_file');

With just EXECUTE on the function, they could use pg_read_file() to read
files under the data directory but not elsewhere on the system, which
may be overly limiting for some use-cases.

Of course, all of these functions allow a great deal of access to the
system and that's why they started out being superuser-only.
Administrators will need to carefully consider who, if anyone, should
have the level of access which these functions and default roles
provide.

Thanks!

Stephen

  8. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Ryan Murphy <ryanfmurphy@gmail.com> — 2018-01-07T03:57:10Z

    Hi Stephen,

I have another question then based on what you said earlier today, and some testing I did using your patch.

TLDR: I created a role "tester" and was (as expected) not able to perform pg_read_file() on files outside the data directory.
But then I granted EXECUTE on that function for that role, and then I was able to (which is not what I expected).

Here's what I did (I apologize if this is too verbose):

* I successfully applied your patch to HEAD, and built Postgres from source:

    make clean
    configure (with options including a specific --prefix)
    make
    make install

* Then I went into the "install_dir/bin" and did the following to setup a data directory:

    $ ./initdb ~/sql-data/2018-01-06
    The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "postgres".
    This user must also own the server process.

    The database cluster will be initialized with locale "en_US.UTF-8".
    The default database encoding has accordingly been set to "UTF8".
    The default text search configuration will be set to "english".

    Data page checksums are disabled.

    creating directory /Users/postgres/sql-data/2018-01-06 ... ok
    creating subdirectories ... ok
    selecting default max_connections ... 100
    selecting default shared_buffers ... 128MB
    selecting dynamic shared memory implementation ... posix
    creating configuration files ... ok
    running bootstrap script ... ok
    performing post-bootstrap initialization ... ok
    syncing data to disk ... ok

    WARNING: enabling "trust" authentication for local connections
    You can change this by editing pg_hba.conf or using the option -A, or
    --auth-local and --auth-host, the next time you run initdb.

    Success. You can now start the database server using:

        ./pg_ctl -D /Users/postgres/sql-data/2018-01-06 -l logfile start

* Then I started the database:

    $ ./pg_ctl -D /Users/postgres/sql-data/2018-01-06 -l logfile start
    waiting for server to start.... done
    server started

* I went into the database and tried a pg_read_file:

    $ psql postgres
    psql (9.4.5, server 11devel)
    Type "help" for help.

    postgres=# select pg_read_file('/Users/postgres/temp');
                           pg_read_file                        
    -----------------------------------------------------------
     here is the file content
     
    (1 row)

* Of course that worked as superuser, so created a new role:

    postgres=# create role tester;
    CREATE ROLE
    postgres=# \q
    postgres=# alter role tester with login;
    ALTER ROLE
    postgres=# \q

    $ psql postgres tester
    psql (9.4.5, server 11devel)
    Type "help" for help.

    postgres=> select pg_read_file('/Users/postgres/temp');
    ERROR:  permission denied for function pg_read_file
    postgres=> \q

* My current understanding at this point is that EXECUTE permissions would only allow "tester" to pg_read_file() on files in the data directory.  I try GRANTing EXECUTE:

    $ psql postgres
    psql (9.4.5, server 11devel)
    Type "help" for help.

    postgres=# grant execute on function pg_read_file(text) to tester;
    GRANT
    postgres=# select pg_read_file('/Users/postgres/temp');
                           pg_read_file                        
    -----------------------------------------------------------
     here is the file content
     
    (1 row)



Is this expected behavior?  I thought I would need to GRANT that new "pg_access_server_files" role to "tester" in order to do this.  I may have misunderstood how your new feature works, just doublechecking.

Regards,
Ryan

  9. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Ryan Murphy <ryanfmurphy@gmail.com> — 2018-01-07T06:54:00Z

    (Duplicated to make sure it's in the commitfest Thread, didn't seem to get in there when I replied to the email)

Oops!  I made a mistake, which clearly showed up in my last email: I forgot to psql back in as "tester".

Now I get the right behavior:

    $ psql postgres tester
    postgres=> select pg_read_file('/Users/postgres/temp');
    ERROR:  absolute path not allowed

Thanks for bearing with me.  So far so good on this feature, going to run the tests too.

Best,
Ryan

  10. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Ryan Murphy <ryanfmurphy@gmail.com> — 2018-01-07T07:17:24Z

    The following review has been posted through the commitfest application:
make installcheck-world:  tested, passed
Implements feature:       tested, passed
Spec compliant:           not tested
Documentation:            tested, passed

I ran make installcheck-world and all tests passed except one that is a known issue with the way I have my environment setup (ecpg tests unrelated to this patch).

Manual tests I ran to see if it Implements the Feature:

1) confirmed that superuser can call pg_read_file() to read files in or out of data directory
2) confirmed that "tester" can call pg_read_file() only if given EXECUTE privilege
3) confirmed that "tester" can only call pg_read_file() on a file OUTSIDE of the data directory iff I "grant pg_access_server_files to tester;"

Documentation seems reasonable.

I believe this patch to be Ready for Committer.

The new status of this patch is: Ready for Committer

  11. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com> — 2018-01-12T01:58:12Z

    On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> This patch adds a new default role called 'pg_access_server_files' which
> allows an administrator to GRANT to a non-superuser role the ability to
> access server-side files through PostgreSQL (as the user the database is
> running as).  By itself, having this role allows a non-superuser to use
> server-side COPY and to use file_fdw (if installed by a superuser and
> GRANT'd USAGE on it).

Hi Stephen,

Not sure if you are aware of this failure?

test file_fdw                 ... FAILED

Because:

! ERROR: only superuser can change options of a file_fdw foreign table
...
! ERROR: only superuser or a member of the pg_access_server_files role
can change options of a file_fdw foreign table

-- 
Thomas Munro
http://www.enterprisedb.com

  12. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-01-12T02:14:14Z

    Thomas,

* Thomas Munro (thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> > This patch adds a new default role called 'pg_access_server_files' which
> > allows an administrator to GRANT to a non-superuser role the ability to
> > access server-side files through PostgreSQL (as the user the database is
> > running as).  By itself, having this role allows a non-superuser to use
> > server-side COPY and to use file_fdw (if installed by a superuser and
> > GRANT'd USAGE on it).
> 
> Not sure if you are aware of this failure?
> 
> test file_fdw                 ... FAILED

Thanks, I did do a make check-world, but I tend to do them in parallel
and evidently missed this.  The patch needs to be reworked based on
discussion with Magnus anyhow, which I hope to do this weekend.
Currently trying to push other patches along. :)

Thanks!

Stephen

  13. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Ryan Murphy <ryanfmurphy@gmail.com> — 2018-01-18T14:04:45Z

    Just circling back on this.

I did have a question that came up about the behavior of the server as it is without the patch.  I logged into psql with my superuser "postgres":

    postgres=# select pg_read_file('/Users/postgres/temp');
    ERROR:  absolute path not allowed

I had not tried this before with my unpatched build of postgres.  (In retrospect of course I should have).  I expected my superuser to be able to perform this task, but it seems that for security reasons we presently don't allow access to absolute path names (except in the data dir and log dir) - not even for a superuser.  Is that correct?  In that case the security implications of this patch would need more consideration.

Stephen, looking at the patch, I see that in src/backend/utils/adt/genfile.c you've made some changes to the function convert_and_check_filename().  These changes, I believe, loosen the security checks in ways other than just adding the granularity of a new role which can be GRANTed to non superusers:

    +   /*
    +    * Members of the 'pg_access_server_files' role are allowed to access any
    +    * files on the server as the PG user, so no need to do any further checks
    +    * here.
    +    */
    +   if (is_member_of_role(GetUserId(), DEFAULT_ROLE_ACCESS_SERVER_FILES))
    +       return filename;
    +
    +   /* User isn't a member of the default role, so check if it's allowable */
        if (is_absolute_path(filename))
        {

As you can see, you've added a short-circuit "return" statement for anyone who has the DEFAULT_ROLE_ACCESS_SERVER_FILES.  Prior to this patch, even a Superuser would be subject to the following is_absolute_path() logic.  But with it, the return statement short-circuits the is_absolute_path() check.

Is this an intended behavior of the patch - to allow file access to absolute paths where previously it was impossible?  Or, was the intention just to add granularity via the new role?  I had assumed the latter.

Best regards,
Ryan

The new status of this patch is: Waiting on Author

  14. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com> — 2018-01-19T00:40:44Z

    On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 02:04:45PM +0000, Ryan Murphy wrote:
> I had not tried this before with my unpatched build of postgres.  (In
> retrospect of course I should have).  I expected my superuser to be
> able to perform this task, but it seems that for security reasons we
> presently don't allow access to absolute path names (except in the
> data dir and log dir) - not even for a superuser.  Is that correct?

Correct.

> In that case the security implications of this patch would need more
> consideration. 
> 
> Stephen, looking at the patch, I see that in
> src/backend/utils/adt/genfile.c you've made some changes to the
> function convert_and_check_filename().  These changes, I believe,
> loosen the security checks in ways other than just adding the
> granularity of a new role which can be GRANTed to non superusers: 
> 
>     +   /*
>     +    * Members of the 'pg_access_server_files' role are allowed to access any
>     +    * files on the server as the PG user, so no need to do any further checks
>     +    * here.
>     +    */
>     +   if (is_member_of_role(GetUserId(), DEFAULT_ROLE_ACCESS_SERVER_FILES))
>     +       return filename;
>     +
>     +   /* User isn't a member of the default role, so check if it's allowable */
>         if (is_absolute_path(filename))
>         {

It seems to me that this is the intention behind the patch as the
comment points out and as Stephen has stated in
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20171231191939.GR2416@tamriel.snowman.net.

> As you can see, you've added a short-circuit "return" statement for
> anyone who has the DEFAULT_ROLE_ACCESS_SERVER_FILES.  Prior to this
> patch, even a Superuser would be subject to the following
> is_absolute_path() logic.  But with it, the return statement
> short-circuits the is_absolute_path() check.

I agree that it is a strange concept to loosen the access while even
superusers cannot do that. By concept superusers are assumed to be able
to do anything on the server by the way.
--
Michael

  15. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-01-19T14:28:33Z

    Michael, all,

* Michael Paquier (michael.paquier@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 02:04:45PM +0000, Ryan Murphy wrote:
> > I had not tried this before with my unpatched build of postgres.  (In
> > retrospect of course I should have).  I expected my superuser to be
> > able to perform this task, but it seems that for security reasons we
> > presently don't allow access to absolute path names (except in the
> > data dir and log dir) - not even for a superuser.  Is that correct?
> 
> Correct.

That's how it currently is, yes, though that doesn't really prevent a
superuser from accessing files outside of the data dir, they would just
have to use another mechanism to do so than this (but it's not hard).

> > In that case the security implications of this patch would need more
> > consideration. 
> > 
> > Stephen, looking at the patch, I see that in
> > src/backend/utils/adt/genfile.c you've made some changes to the
> > function convert_and_check_filename().  These changes, I believe,
> > loosen the security checks in ways other than just adding the
> > granularity of a new role which can be GRANTed to non superusers: 
> > 
> >     +   /*
> >     +    * Members of the 'pg_access_server_files' role are allowed to access any
> >     +    * files on the server as the PG user, so no need to do any further checks
> >     +    * here.
> >     +    */
> >     +   if (is_member_of_role(GetUserId(), DEFAULT_ROLE_ACCESS_SERVER_FILES))
> >     +       return filename;
> >     +
> >     +   /* User isn't a member of the default role, so check if it's allowable */
> >         if (is_absolute_path(filename))
> >         {
> 
> It seems to me that this is the intention behind the patch as the
> comment points out and as Stephen has stated in
> https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20171231191939.GR2416@tamriel.snowman.net.

Yes, this change is intentional.  Note that superusers are members of
all roles explicitly (see the check in is_member_of_role()).

> > As you can see, you've added a short-circuit "return" statement for
> > anyone who has the DEFAULT_ROLE_ACCESS_SERVER_FILES.  Prior to this
> > patch, even a Superuser would be subject to the following
> > is_absolute_path() logic.  But with it, the return statement
> > short-circuits the is_absolute_path() check.
> 
> I agree that it is a strange concept to loosen the access while even
> superusers cannot do that. By concept superusers are assumed to be able
> to do anything on the server by the way.

As best as I can tell, the checks in these functions weren't because of
security concerns but simply because the original justification for them
was to be able to read files in the data directory and so they were
written specifically for that purpose.  There's no such check in
lo_import(), for example, and it is, as Michael says, assumed that
superusers are equivilant to having full access to the server as the
user the database is running as.

This patch still needs updating for Magnus' comments, of course, and
I'm still planning to make that happen, so Waiting on Author is the
right status currently.

Thanks!

Stephen

  16. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Ryan Murphy <ryanfmurphy@gmail.com> — 2018-01-19T16:32:34Z

    Ok great. Thanks Michael and Stephen for the explanations.

  17. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> — 2018-03-02T04:50:31Z

    Hi,

On 2018-01-19 09:28:33 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> This patch still needs updating for Magnus' comments, of course, and
> I'm still planning to make that happen, so Waiting on Author is the
> right status currently.

Given that this hasn't happened, and that the next CF has started, ISTM,
the patch should be marked as returned with feedback. If not, it at the
very least should be updated soon...

Greetings,

Andres Freund

  18. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-03-06T15:00:54Z

    Magnus, all,

* Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
> > Suggestions on a name for this..?  pg_server_copy_program?
> 
> Presumably it would also be used in postgres_fdw, so that seems like a bad
> name. Maybe pg_exec_server_command?

I went with 'pg_execute_server_program', since 'program' is what we use
in the COPY syntax, et al.

Attached is an updated patch which splits up the permissions as
suggested up-thread by Magnus:

The default roles added are:

* pg_read_server_files
* pg_write_server_files
* pg_execute_server_program

Reviews certainly welcome.

Thanks!

Stephen

  19. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2018-03-07T06:31:06Z

    On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 10:00:54AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
>> > Suggestions on a name for this..?  pg_server_copy_program?
>> 
>> Presumably it would also be used in postgres_fdw, so that seems like a bad
>> name. Maybe pg_exec_server_command?
> 
> I went with 'pg_execute_server_program', since 'program' is what we use
> in the COPY syntax, et al.

Okay.

> Attached is an updated patch which splits up the permissions as
> suggested up-thread by Magnus:
> 
> The default roles added are:
> 
> * pg_read_server_files
> * pg_write_server_files
> * pg_execute_server_program
> 
> Reviews certainly welcome.

It seems to me that we have two different concepts here in one single
patch:
1) Replace superuser checks by execution ACLs for FS-related functions.
2) Introduce new administration roles to control COPY and file_fdw

First, could it be possible to do a split for 1) and 2)?

+   /*
+    * Members of the 'pg_read_server_files' role are allowed to access any
+    * files on the server as the PG user, so no need to do any further checks
+    * here.
+    */
+   if (is_member_of_role(GetUserId(), DEFAULT_ROLE_READ_SERVER_FILES))
+       return filename;
Second, I don't quite understand what is the link between COPY/file_fdw
and the possibility to use absolute paths in all the functions of
genfile.c.  Is the use-case the possibility to check for the existence
of a file using pg_stat_file before doing a copy?  This seems rather
limited because COPY or file_fdw would complain similarly for a missing
file.  So I don't quite get the use-case for authorizing that.

Could you update the documentation of pg_rewind please?  It seems to me
that with your patch then superuser rights are not necessary mandatory,
as the role connecting to the source server does not need to have
superuser right, and needs just execution rights to pg_ls_dir,
pg_read_binary_files and pg_stat_file.  Such a user does not need to be
granted access to pg_read_server_files either as no absolute paths are
involved in pg_rewind.  Listing the functions directly would be also
nice.  Personally I care a lot about 1), way less about 2).
--
Michael

  20. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-03-07T12:00:03Z

    Greetings Michael,

* Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 10:00:54AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > Attached is an updated patch which splits up the permissions as
> > suggested up-thread by Magnus:
> > 
> > The default roles added are:
> > 
> > * pg_read_server_files
> > * pg_write_server_files
> > * pg_execute_server_program
> > 
> > Reviews certainly welcome.
> 
> It seems to me that we have two different concepts here in one single
> patch:
> 1) Replace superuser checks by execution ACLs for FS-related functions.
> 2) Introduce new administration roles to control COPY and file_fdw

> First, could it be possible to do a split for 1) and 2)?

Done, because it was less work than arguing about it, but I'm not
convinced that we really need to split out patches to this level of
granularity.  Perhaps something to consider for the future.

> +   /*
> +    * Members of the 'pg_read_server_files' role are allowed to access any
> +    * files on the server as the PG user, so no need to do any further checks
> +    * here.
> +    */
> +   if (is_member_of_role(GetUserId(), DEFAULT_ROLE_READ_SERVER_FILES))
> +       return filename;

> Second, I don't quite understand what is the link between COPY/file_fdw
> and the possibility to use absolute paths in all the functions of
> genfile.c.  Is the use-case the possibility to check for the existence
> of a file using pg_stat_file before doing a copy?  This seems rather
> limited because COPY or file_fdw would complain similarly for a missing
> file.  So I don't quite get the use-case for authorizing that.

There's absolutely a use-case for being able to work with files outside
of the data directory using the misc file functions, which is what's
being addressed here, while also bringing into line the privileges given
to this new default role.  To address the use-case of accessing files
generically through pg_read_file() or pg_read_binary_file() by having to
go through COPY instead would be unnecessairly complex.

Consider a case like postgresql.conf residing outside of the data
directory.  For an application to be able to read that with
pg_read_file() is very straight-forward and applications already exist
which do.  Forcing that application to go through COPY would require
creating a TEMP table and then coming up with a COPY command that
doesn't actually *do* what COPY is meant to do- that is, parse the file.
By default, you'd get errors from such a COPY command as it would think
there's extra columns defined in the "copy-format" or "csv" or
what-have-you file.

> Could you update the documentation of pg_rewind please?  It seems to me
> that with your patch then superuser rights are not necessary mandatory,

This will require actual testing to be done before I'd make such a
change.  I'll see if I can do that soon, but I also wouldn't complain if
someone else wanted to actually go through and set that up and test that
it works.

Thanks!

Stephen

  21. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2018-03-08T01:15:11Z

    On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 07:00:03AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
>> First, could it be possible to do a split for 1) and 2)?
> 
> Done, because it was less work than arguing about it, but I'm not
> convinced that we really need to split out patches to this level of
> granularity.  Perhaps something to consider for the future.

One patch should defend one idea, this makes the git history easier to
understand in my opinion.

> Consider a case like postgresql.conf residing outside of the data
> directory.  For an application to be able to read that with
> pg_read_file() is very straight-forward and applications already exist
> which do.  Forcing that application to go through COPY would require
> creating a TEMP table and then coming up with a COPY command that
> doesn't actually *do* what COPY is meant to do- that is, parse the file.
> By default, you'd get errors from such a COPY command as it would think
> there's extra columns defined in the "copy-format" or "csv" or
> what-have-you file.

Hm, OK...

>> Could you update the documentation of pg_rewind please?  It seems to me
>> that with your patch then superuser rights are not necessary mandatory,
> 
> This will require actual testing to be done before I'd make such a
> change.  I'll see if I can do that soon, but I also wouldn't complain if
> someone else wanted to actually go through and set that up and test that
> it works.

That's what I did, manually, using the attached SQL script with your
patch 1 applied.  You can check for the list of functions used by
pg_rewind in libpq_fetch.c where you just need to grant execution access
to those functions for a login user and you are good to go:
pg_ls_dir(text, boolean, boolean)
pg_stat_file(text, boolean)
pg_read_binary_file(text)
pg_read_binary_file(text, bigint, bigint, boolean)

So getting this documented properly would be nice.  Of course feel free
to test this by yourself as you wish.

Could you send separate files for each patch by the way?  This eases
testing, and I don't recall that git am has a way to enforce only a
subset of patches to be applied based on one file, though my git-fu is
limited in this area.

+  read or which program is run.  In principle regular users could be allowed to
   change the other options, but that's not supported at present.
Well, the parsing of file_fdw complains if "program" or "filename" is
not defined, so a user has to be in either pg_read_server_files to use
"filename" or in pg_execute_server_program to use "program", so I am not
sure that the last sentence of this paragraph makes much sense from the
beginning.

-        Return the contents of a file.
+        Return the contents of a file.  Restricted to superusers by
default, but other users can be granted EXECUTE to run the function.
        </entry>
You should make those paragraphs spawn into multiple lines.  EXECUTE
should use <literal> markup, and I think that you should use "EXECUTE
privilege to run the function" on those doc portions.  That's all for
the nits.

Other than that the patch looks in pretty good shape to me.
--
Michael

  22. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2018-03-08T01:18:21Z

    On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 10:15:11AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> Other than that the patch looks in pretty good shape to me.

The regression tests of file_fdw are blowing up because of an error
string patch 2 changes.
--
Michael

  23. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-03-26T01:43:25Z

    Greetings,

* Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 10:15:11AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> > Other than that the patch looks in pretty good shape to me.
> 
> The regression tests of file_fdw are blowing up because of an error
> string patch 2 changes.

Fixed in the attached.

Does anyone have an opinion regarding the adminpack functions?  I was
just reviewing the patch and considering if we should adjust the
privileges there also and it seems like we should.  That'd be a pretty
straight-forward change, of course, so unless there's some reason not to
then I'll see about providing an updated patch tomorrow which covers
those functions as well.

Note that it'll be a bit more complicated since we can't just remove the
checks from the existing functions- we'll need to have new functions
where the checks are removed and a new extension version that updates to
the new functions and then REVOKE's access to them.  Not a big deal,
just pointing out that it's not quite as straight-forward since it's an
extension and we need to deal with environments where the server's been
upgraded and the .so changed, but the existing functions are still in
place with their current public-execute rights.

Thanks!

Stephen

  24. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2018-03-26T07:16:31Z

    On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 09:43:25PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 10:15:11AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
>> > Other than that the patch looks in pretty good shape to me.
>> 
>> The regression tests of file_fdw are blowing up because of an error
>> string patch 2 changes.
> 
> Fixed in the attached.

Thanks for the updated version.  This test is fixed.

Patch 2 includes the documentation changes from patch 1, which would
matter only if you decide to keep things splitted.  As far as my brain
sees the patch is logically correct.
 
> Note that it'll be a bit more complicated since we can't just remove the
> checks from the existing functions- we'll need to have new functions
> where the checks are removed and a new extension version that updates to
> the new functions and then REVOKE's access to them.  Not a big deal,
> just pointing out that it's not quite as straight-forward since it's an
> extension and we need to deal with environments where the server's been
> upgraded and the .so changed, but the existing functions are still in
> place with their current public-execute rights.

Yeah, that's basically what you did for pgstattuple in fd321a1.  I am
not sure that I would have time to double-check what you code and the
commit fest ends in 5 days.  There are many other patches in need of
attention, so I would be incline to just do this portion in the future
and keep the proposal as-is.  My 2c.
--
Michael

  25. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-04-01T13:39:02Z

    Greetings,

* Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 09:43:25PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > * Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
> >> On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 10:15:11AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> >> > Other than that the patch looks in pretty good shape to me.
> >> 
> >> The regression tests of file_fdw are blowing up because of an error
> >> string patch 2 changes.
> > 
> > Fixed in the attached.
> 
> Thanks for the updated version.  This test is fixed.

Thanks for checking.  Attached is an updated version which also includes
the changes for adminpack, done in a similar manner to how pgstattuple
was updated, as discussed.  Regression tests updated and extended a bit,
doc updates also included.

If you get a chance to take a look, that'd be great.  I'll do my own
review of it again also after stepping away for a day or so.

Thanks!

Stephen

  26. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2018-04-02T04:42:36Z

    On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 09:39:02AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> Thanks for checking.  Attached is an updated version which also includes
> the changes for adminpack, done in a similar manner to how pgstattuple
> was updated, as discussed.  Regression tests updated and extended a bit,
> doc updates also included.
> 
> If you get a chance to take a look, that'd be great.  I'll do my own
> review of it again also after stepping away for a day or so.

I have spotted some issues mainly in patch 3.

I am not sure what has happened to your editor, but git diff --check is
throwing a dozen of warnings coming from adminpack.c.

c0cbe00 has stolen the OIDs your patch is using for the new roles, so
patch 2 needs a refresh.

@@ -68,6 +77,15 @@ convert_and_check_filename(text *arg, bool logAllowed)
[...]
+   /*
+    * Members of the 'pg_read_server_files' role are allowed to access any
+    * files on the server as the PG user, so no need to do any further checks
+    * here.
+    */
+   if (is_member_of_role(GetUserId(), DEFAULT_ROLE_READ_SERVER_FILES))
+       return filename;
So...  If a user has loaded adminpack v1.0 with Postgres v11, then
convert_and_check_filename would actually be able to read paths out of
the data folder for a user within pg_read_server_files, while with
Postgres v10 then only paths within the data folder were allowed.  And
that7s actually fine because a superuser check happens before entering
in this code path.

 pg_file_rename(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
+{
+   text       *file1;
+   text       *file2;
+   text       *file3;
+   bool        result;
+
+   if (PG_ARGISNULL(0) || PG_ARGISNULL(1))
+       PG_RETURN_NULL();
+
+   file1 = PG_GETARG_TEXT_PP(0);
+   file2 = PG_GETARG_TEXT_PP(1);
+
+   if (PG_ARGISNULL(2))
+       file3 = NULL;
+   else
+       file3 = PG_GETARG_TEXT_PP(2);
+
+   requireSuperuser();
Here requireSuperuser() should be called before looking at the
argument values.

No refactoring for pg_file_unlink and its v1.1?

The argument checks are exactly the same for +pg_file_rename and
pg_file_rename_v1_1.  Why about just passing fcinfo around and simplify
the patch?

+CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION pg_catalog.pg_file_rename(text, text)
+RETURNS bool
+AS 'SELECT pg_catalog.pg_file_rename($1, $2, NULL::pg_catalog.text);'
+LANGUAGE SQL VOLATILE STRICT;
You forgot a REVOKE clause for pg_file_rename(text, text).

In adminpack.c, convert_and_check_filename is always called with false
as second argument.  Why not dropping it and use the version in
genfile.c instead?  As far as I can see, both functions are the same.

pg_read_file and pg_read_file_v2 could be refactored as well with an
internal routine.  Having to support v1 and v2 functions in the backend
code is not elegant.  Would it actually work to keep the v1 function in
adminpack.c and the v2 function in genfile.c even if adminpack 1.0 is
loaded?  This way you keep in core only one function.  What matters is
that the function name matches, right?

+int64 pg_file_write_internal(text *file, text *data, bool replace);
+bool pg_file_rename_internal(text *file1, text *file2, text *file3);
+Datum pg_logdir_ls_internal(FunctionCallInfo fcinfo)
Those three functions should be static.
--
Michael

  27. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-04-02T21:09:21Z

    Michael, all,

* Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 09:39:02AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > Thanks for checking.  Attached is an updated version which also includes
> > the changes for adminpack, done in a similar manner to how pgstattuple
> > was updated, as discussed.  Regression tests updated and extended a bit,
> > doc updates also included.
> > 
> > If you get a chance to take a look, that'd be great.  I'll do my own
> > review of it again also after stepping away for a day or so.
> 
> I have spotted some issues mainly in patch 3.

Thanks for taking a look.

> I am not sure what has happened to your editor, but git diff --check is
> throwing a dozen of warnings coming from adminpack.c.

Ahhh, those came from switching over to tmux..  I need to figure out how
to get it to copy/paste like I had set up before with screen.  Anyhow,
they were all in patch 3 and I've fixed them all.

> c0cbe00 has stolen the OIDs your patch is using for the new roles, so
> patch 2 needs a refresh.

Fixed and generally rebased.

> @@ -68,6 +77,15 @@ convert_and_check_filename(text *arg, bool logAllowed)
> [...]
> +   /*
> +    * Members of the 'pg_read_server_files' role are allowed to access any
> +    * files on the server as the PG user, so no need to do any further checks
> +    * here.
> +    */
> +   if (is_member_of_role(GetUserId(), DEFAULT_ROLE_READ_SERVER_FILES))
> +       return filename;

> So...  If a user has loaded adminpack v1.0 with Postgres v11, then
> convert_and_check_filename would actually be able to read paths out of
> the data folder for a user within pg_read_server_files, while with
> Postgres v10 then only paths within the data folder were allowed.  And
> that7s actually fine because a superuser check happens before entering
> in this code path.

Yes, all of the adminpack v1.0 code paths still have superuser checks,
similar to how the older pgstattuple code paths do.  When an upgrade to
adminpack v1.1 is done, the new v1_1 functions don't have those
superuser checks but the upgrade script REVOKE's execute rights from
public, so the right to execute the functions has to be explicitly
GRANT'd for non-superusers.

>  pg_file_rename(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
> +{
> +   text       *file1;
> +   text       *file2;
> +   text       *file3;
> +   bool        result;
> +
> +   if (PG_ARGISNULL(0) || PG_ARGISNULL(1))
> +       PG_RETURN_NULL();
> +
> +   file1 = PG_GETARG_TEXT_PP(0);
> +   file2 = PG_GETARG_TEXT_PP(1);
> +
> +   if (PG_ARGISNULL(2))
> +       file3 = NULL;
> +   else
> +       file3 = PG_GETARG_TEXT_PP(2);
> +
> +   requireSuperuser();

> Here requireSuperuser() should be called before looking at the
> argument values.

Moved up.

> No refactoring for pg_file_unlink and its v1.1?

I considered each function and thought about if it'd make sense to
refactor them or if they were simple enough that the additional function
wouldn't really be all that useful.  I'm open to revisiting that, but
just want to make it clear that it was something I thought about and
considered.  Since pg_file_unlink is basically two function calls, I
didn't think it worthwhile to refactor those into their own function.

> The argument checks are exactly the same for +pg_file_rename and
> pg_file_rename_v1_1.  Why about just passing fcinfo around and simplify
> the patch?

In general, I prefer to keep the PG_FUNCTION_ARGS abstraction when we
can.  Unfortunately, that does fall apart when wrapping an SRF as in
pg_logdir_ls(), but with pg_file_rename we can maintain it and it's
really not that much code to do so.  As with the refactoring of
pg_file_unlink, this is something which could really go either way.

> +CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION pg_catalog.pg_file_rename(text, text)
> +RETURNS bool
> +AS 'SELECT pg_catalog.pg_file_rename($1, $2, NULL::pg_catalog.text);'
> +LANGUAGE SQL VOLATILE STRICT;

> You forgot a REVOKE clause for pg_file_rename(text, text).

No, I explicitly didn't include it because that's a security-invoker SQL
function that basically doesn't do anything but turn around and call
pg_file_rename(), which will handle the privilege check:

=*> select pg_file_rename('abc','123');
ERROR:  permission denied for function pg_file_rename
CONTEXT:  SQL function "pg_file_rename" statement 1

I'm not sure how useful it is to REVOKE the rights on the simple SQL
function; that would just mean that an admin has to go GRANT the rights
on that function as well as the three-argument version.

> In adminpack.c, convert_and_check_filename is always called with false
> as second argument.  Why not dropping it and use the version in
> genfile.c instead?  As far as I can see, both functions are the same.

Hmm.  I'm pretty sure that function was actually copied from adminpack
into core, so I'm not surprised that they're basically the same, but it
was implemented in core as static and I'm not really sure that we want
to export it- it wasn't when it was first copied into core, after all.

Also, they actually should be different- the functions in core are for
reading files while the ones in adminpack are for writing to files, so
that should really be checking against the pg_write_server_files role
instead, as updated in the patch.

> pg_read_file and pg_read_file_v2 could be refactored as well with an
> internal routine.  Having to support v1 and v2 functions in the backend
> code is not elegant.  Would it actually work to keep the v1 function in
> adminpack.c and the v2 function in genfile.c even if adminpack 1.0 is
> loaded?  This way you keep in core only one function.  What matters is
> that the function name matches, right?

The function name in core would still have to be different and it's
also possible that there are other callers of it beyond those in
adminpack, so keeping them in core also avoids breaking those callers.
That's not a huge deal in general, of course, but I think it tends to
tip the scales towards just having two versions in core, at least for
now.

Thinking about this a bit more though, those old function names were
listed as deprecated and have been such for quite a while.  If a user
upgrades to adminpack 1.1, which they would have to do pretty much
explicitly, maybe they'll be expecting and understanding that they might
have to change their user code and instead of trying to support these
old names in adminpack for compatibility we should just drop the old
function names?  Users could still install adminpack 1.0 if they wish
to, after all.

The more I think about it, the more I like the apporach of just dropping
these deprecated "alternative names for things in core" with the new
adminpack version.  In terms of applications, as I understand it, they
aren't used in the latest version of pgAdmin3 and they also aren't used
with pgAdmin4, so I don't think we need to be worrying about supporting
them in v11.

I've dropped those functions from the new patch.  We still need to keep
the backend functions for adminpack v1.0, of course, but perhaps in a
few releases we can decide that adminpack v1.0 is no longer supported
and drop it and the functions which are supporting it in core.

> +int64 pg_file_write_internal(text *file, text *data, bool replace);
> +bool pg_file_rename_internal(text *file1, text *file2, text *file3);
> +Datum pg_logdir_ls_internal(FunctionCallInfo fcinfo)

> Those three functions should be static.

Fixed.

I also went through and updated the docs for the new default roles (we
have a list of the default roles in the docs with what they're for).  In
those docs I also pointed out that users with these roles can bypass the
in-database permissions checks, etc.  I also went back and added similar
warnings to other places in the docs to hopefully make sure everyone
realizes that these roles are very nearly "superuser" equivilant.

Updated patch attached.

I still want to do more review of it, but this is defintiely starting to
feel better to me.  I'm going to spend tomorrow making sure that the
patch to update the pg_dump-related regression tests is good to go and
hopefully push that, after which I'll come back to this for another
review.

Thanks!

Stephen

  28. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2018-04-03T04:53:23Z

    On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 05:09:21PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
>> No refactoring for pg_file_unlink and its v1.1?
> 
> I considered each function and thought about if it'd make sense to
> refactor them or if they were simple enough that the additional function
> wouldn't really be all that useful.  I'm open to revisiting that, but
> just want to make it clear that it was something I thought about and
> considered.  Since pg_file_unlink is basically two function calls, I
> didn't think it worthwhile to refactor those into their own function.

I don't mind if this is done your way.

>> The argument checks are exactly the same for pg_file_rename and
>> pg_file_rename_v1_1.  Why about just passing fcinfo around and simplify
>> the patch?
> 
> In general, I prefer to keep the PG_FUNCTION_ARGS abstraction when we
> can.  Unfortunately, that does fall apart when wrapping an SRF as in
> pg_logdir_ls(), but with pg_file_rename we can maintain it and it's
> really not that much code to do so.  As with the refactoring of
> pg_file_unlink, this is something which could really go either way.

Okay...

> I'm not sure how useful it is to REVOKE the rights on the simple SQL
> function; that would just mean that an admin has to go GRANT the rights
> on that function as well as the three-argument version.

Indeed, I had a brain fade here.

> The more I think about it, the more I like the approach of just dropping
> these deprecated "alternative names for things in core" with the new
> adminpack version.  In terms of applications, as I understand it, they
> aren't used in the latest version of pgAdmin3 and they also aren't used
> with pgAdmin4, so I don't think we need to be worrying about supporting
> them in v11.

+1 to simplify the code a bit.
--
Michael

  29. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-04-04T12:18:55Z

    Michael,

* Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 05:09:21PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > * Michael Paquier (michael@paquier.xyz) wrote:
> >> No refactoring for pg_file_unlink and its v1.1?
> > 
> > I considered each function and thought about if it'd make sense to
> > refactor them or if they were simple enough that the additional function
> > wouldn't really be all that useful.  I'm open to revisiting that, but
> > just want to make it clear that it was something I thought about and
> > considered.  Since pg_file_unlink is basically two function calls, I
> > didn't think it worthwhile to refactor those into their own function.
> 
> I don't mind if this is done your way.
> 
> >> The argument checks are exactly the same for pg_file_rename and
> >> pg_file_rename_v1_1.  Why about just passing fcinfo around and simplify
> >> the patch?
> > 
> > In general, I prefer to keep the PG_FUNCTION_ARGS abstraction when we
> > can.  Unfortunately, that does fall apart when wrapping an SRF as in
> > pg_logdir_ls(), but with pg_file_rename we can maintain it and it's
> > really not that much code to do so.  As with the refactoring of
> > pg_file_unlink, this is something which could really go either way.
> 
> Okay...
> 
> > I'm not sure how useful it is to REVOKE the rights on the simple SQL
> > function; that would just mean that an admin has to go GRANT the rights
> > on that function as well as the three-argument version.
> 
> Indeed, I had a brain fade here.
> 
> > The more I think about it, the more I like the approach of just dropping
> > these deprecated "alternative names for things in core" with the new
> > adminpack version.  In terms of applications, as I understand it, they
> > aren't used in the latest version of pgAdmin3 and they also aren't used
> > with pgAdmin4, so I don't think we need to be worrying about supporting
> > them in v11.
> 
> +1 to simplify the code a bit.

Great, thanks.  I'll be doing more review of it myself and see about
pushing it later this afternoon.

Stephen

  30. Re: Add default role 'pg_access_server_files'

    Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> — 2018-04-06T19:11:23Z

    Greetings,

* Stephen Frost (sfrost@snowman.net) wrote:
> Great, thanks.  I'll be doing more review of it myself and see about
> pushing it later this afternoon.

Took a bit longer as I wanted to check over a few more things, but I've
now pushed this.  Thanks much for all of the help with review and
commentary, Michael and Magnus!

Thanks again!

Stephen