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  1. Re: [HACKERS] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

    Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> — 2003-11-18T08:22:45Z

     
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Peter Eisentraut [mailto:peter_e@gmx.net] 
    > Sent: 17 November 2003 23:31
    > To: Josh Berkus
    > Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org
    > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?
    > 
    > Josh Berkus writes:
    > 
    > > Given all that, don't people think it's time to jump to 8.0?
    > 
    > As has been said before, many people think that a Windows 
    > port is the least interesting feature ever to happen to 
    > PostgreSQL, so you're going to have to come up with better 
    > reasons.
    
    Least interesting to many user perhaps, but lost of them seen to think
    that it's important for expanding our userbase:
    http://www.postgresql.org/survey.php?View=1&SurveyID=9
    
    That can't be a bad thing.
    
    Regards, Dave.
    
    
  2. Re: [HACKERS] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

    Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> — 2003-11-18T09:22:33Z

    Dave Page writes:
    
    > Least interesting to many user perhaps, but lost of them seen to think
    > that it's important for expanding our userbase:
    > http://www.postgresql.org/survey.php?View=1&SurveyID=9
    
    That survey is a bit like asking television viewers, "What do you think
    would attract the most new television viewers?"
    
    33% -- better entertainment
    
    That does not say that better entertainment will attract new viewers, just
    that the existing viewers think that.  Most nonviewers might in fact be
    perfectly content with their way of living.
    
    -- 
    Peter Eisentraut   peter_e@gmx.net
    
    
    
  3. Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Port WAS: Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

    Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> — 2003-11-18T17:24:25Z

    Peter,
    
    Well, based on the feedback we're getting from the 7.4 release, the #1 issue 
    for non-postgresql users who are interested enough to post to message boards 
    is "Where is the Windows Port?"   This gets mentioned roughly 10 times as 
    often as any other potential feature. 
    
    So the Windows port is a mostly question of what matters to people who 
    *aren't* using PostgreSQL currently, assuming we want our community to grow 
    (and I think we do, since communities which don't grow die).    For many if 
    not most of our current users it doesn't matter as much, becuase if it did 
    they wouldn't be using PostgreSQL.
    
    But it affects current users too.   I had to pass on two potential contracts 
    in 2003 because the use of Windows servers was stipulated.   The second of 
    these I was really put out about since it was a scheduling application, 
    something that both I and PostgreSQL excel at were it not on Windows.   You 
    probably aren't faced with this issue as much in Germany, but it happens 
    often to us folks in the US & Canada.
    
    -- 
    Josh Berkus
    Aglio Database Solutions
    San Francisco
    
    
  4. Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Port WAS: Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

    Andrew Sullivan <andrew@libertyrms.info> — 2003-11-18T17:34:03Z

    On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:24:25AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
    > Well, based on the feedback we're getting from the 7.4 release, the #1 issue 
    > for non-postgresql users who are interested enough to post to message boards 
    > is "Where is the Windows Port?"   This gets mentioned roughly 10 times as 
    
    This is also, by the way, a reason not to say, "_X_ is planned for
    the next release," unless there is acutal working code kicking
    around.  Lots of people saw the remarks (I am among the guilty for
    repeating it, I think) that a Windows port seemed to be planned for
    7.4.  So some of us were guilty of flogging vapourware, I'm afraid.
    
    A
    
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  5. Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Port WAS: Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?

    Cornelia Boenigk <poppcorn@cornelia-boenigk.de> — 2003-11-18T18:01:57Z

    Hi
    
    > You
    > probably aren't faced with this issue as much in Germany, but it
    happens
    > often to us folks in the US & Canada.
    
    About half of the mails that I get are Cygwin-Windows related. So I
    consider it of great interest in Germany.
    
    Regards
    Conni