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  1. pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Gregory Stark <stark@postgresql.org> — 2010-02-15T00:50:57Z

    Log Message:
    -----------
    Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after copying
    all the data and using posix_fadvise to nudge the OS into flushing it
    earlier. This also hopefully makes CREATE DATABASE avoid spamming the
    cache.
    
    Tests show a big speedup on Linux at least on some filesystems.
    
    Idea and patch from Andres Freund.
    
    Modified Files:
    --------------
        pgsql/src/backend/storage/file:
            fd.c (r1.153 -> r1.154)
            (http://anoncvs.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/src/backend/storage/file/fd.c?r1=1.153&r2=1.154)
        pgsql/src/include/storage:
            fd.h (r1.66 -> r1.67)
            (http://anoncvs.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/src/include/storage/fd.h?r1=1.66&r2=1.67)
        pgsql/src/port:
            copydir.c (r1.25 -> r1.26)
            (http://anoncvs.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/src/port/copydir.c?r1=1.25&r2=1.26)
    
    
  2. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2010-02-15T06:57:19Z

    stark@postgresql.org (Greg Stark) writes:
    > Log Message:
    > -----------
    > Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after copying
    > all the data and using posix_fadvise to nudge the OS into flushing it
    > earlier. This also hopefully makes CREATE DATABASE avoid spamming the
    > cache.
    
    The buildfarm indicates that this patch has got some serious issues.
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  3. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2010-02-15T07:13:32Z

    I wrote:
    > The buildfarm indicates that this patch has got some serious issues.
    
    Actually, looking closer, some of the Windows machines started failing
    after the *earlier* patch to add directory fsyncs.
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  4. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> — 2010-02-15T08:36:31Z

    On Monday 15 February 2010 08:13:32 Tom Lane wrote:
    > I wrote:
    > > The buildfarm indicates that this patch has got some serious issues.
    > 
    > Actually, looking closer, some of the Windows machines started failing
    > after the *earlier* patch to add directory fsyncs.
    And not only the windows machines. Seems sensible to add a configure check 
    whether directory-fsyncing works.
    But at least I am not capable of writing good m4/configure.in/whatever without 
    strong supervision...
    
    Will try if nobody else with more knowledge does and if somebody will look 
    over it afterwards.
    
    Andres
    
    
  5. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Marcin Mańk <marcin.mank@gmail.com> — 2010-02-15T09:36:40Z

    On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
    > On Monday 15 February 2010 08:13:32 Tom Lane wrote:
    >> Actually, looking closer, some of the Windows machines started failing
    >> after the *earlier* patch to add directory fsyncs.
    > And not only the windows machines. Seems sensible to add a configure check
    > whether directory-fsyncing works.
    
    It looks like a thing that can be filesystem-dependent. Maybe a kind
    of runtime check?
    
    Greetings
    Marcin Mańk
    
    
  6. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> — 2010-02-15T10:02:50Z

    Hi Marcin,
    
    Sounds rather unlikely to me. Its likely handled at an upper layer (vfs in linux' case) and only overloaded when an optimized implementation is available.
    Which os do you see implementing that only on a part of the filesystems?
    
    A runtime check would be creating, fsyncing and deleting a directory for every directory youre fsyncing because they could be on a different fs...
    
    Andres
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    > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
    > > On Monday 15 February 2010 08:13:32 Tom Lane wrote:
    > > > Actually, looking closer, some of the Windows machines started failing
    > > > after the *earlier* patch to add directory fsyncs.
    > > And not only the windows machines. Seems sensible to add a configure check
    > > whether directory-fsyncing works.
    >
    > It looks like a thing that can be filesystem-dependent. Maybe a kind
    > of runtime check?
    >
    > Greetings
    > Marcin Mańk
    >
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  7. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu> — 2010-02-15T11:19:24Z

    On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
    > Hi Marcin,
    >
    > Sounds rather unlikely to me. Its likely handled at an upper layer (vfs in linux' case) and only overloaded when an optimized implementation is available.
    > Which os do you see implementing that only on a part of the filesystems?
    >
    > A runtime check would be creating, fsyncing and deleting a directory for every directory youre fsyncing because they could be on a different fs...
    
    We could just not check the result code of the fsync. Or print a
    warning the first time and stop trying subsequently.
    
    When do we cut the alpha? If I look at it at about 10-11pm EST is that too late?
    
    -- 
    greg
    
    
  8. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Marcin Mańk <marcin.mank@gmail.com> — 2010-02-15T11:34:44Z

    On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
    > Hi Marcin,
    >
    > Sounds rather unlikely to me. Its likely handled at an upper layer (vfs in linux' case) and only overloaded when an optimized implementation is available.
    > Which os do you see implementing that only on a part of the filesystems?
    >
    
    I have a Windows XP dev machine, which runs virtualbox, which runs
    ubuntu, which mounts a windows directory through vboxfs
    
    fsync does error out on directories inside that mount.
    
    btw: 8.4.2 initdb won`t work there too, So this is not a regression.
    The error is:
    DEBUG:  creating and filling new WAL file
    LOG:  could not link file "pg_xlog/xlogtemp.2367" to
    "pg_xlog/000000010000000000000000" (initialization of log file 0,
    segment 0): Operation not permitted
    FATAL:  could not open file "pg_xlog/000000010000000000000000" (log
    file 0, segment 0): No such file or directory
    
    But I would not be that sure that eg. NFS or something like that won`t complain.
    
    Ignoring the return code seems the right choice.
    
    Greetings
    Marcin Mańk
    
    
  9. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu> — 2010-02-15T11:45:39Z

    On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, marcin mank <marcin.mank@gmail.com> wrote:
    > LOG:  could not link file "pg_xlog/xlogtemp.2367" to
    > "pg_xlog/000000010000000000000000" (initialization of log file 0,
    >
    
    This is not related -- it seems your filesystem doesn't support hard
    links. I thought we used "junctions" on versions of Windows that
    support them which I would have expected would include XP but my
    knowledge of Windows is thin and obsolete.
    
    -- 
    greg
    
    
  10. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> — 2010-02-15T11:46:51Z

    On Monday 15 February 2010 12:34:44 marcin mank wrote:
    > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
    > > Hi Marcin,
    > > 
    > > Sounds rather unlikely to me. Its likely handled at an upper layer (vfs
    > > in linux' case) and only overloaded when an optimized implementation is
    > > available. Which os do you see implementing that only on a part of the
    > > filesystems?
    > 
    > I have a Windows XP dev machine, which runs virtualbox, which runs
    > ubuntu, which mounts a windows directory through vboxfs
    
    
    > btw: 8.4.2 initdb won`t work there too, So this is not a regression.
    > The error is:
    > DEBUG:  creating and filling new WAL file
    > LOG:  could not link file "pg_xlog/xlogtemp.2367" to
    > "pg_xlog/000000010000000000000000" (initialization of log file 0,
    > segment 0): Operation not permitted
    > FATAL:  could not open file "pg_xlog/000000010000000000000000" (log
    > file 0, segment 0): No such file or directory
    That does seem to be a different issue. Currently there are no fsyncs on 
    directories at all, so likely your setup is hosed anyway ;-)
    
    > But I would not be that sure that eg. NFS or something like that won`t
    > complain.
    It does not.
    
    > Ignoring the return code seems the right choice.
    And the error hiding one as well. With delayed allocation you theoretically 
    could error out on fsync with -ENOSPC ...
    
    
    Andres
    
    
  11. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> — 2010-02-15T11:50:49Z

    On Monday 15 February 2010 12:45:39 Greg Stark wrote:
    > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, marcin mank <marcin.mank@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > LOG:  could not link file "pg_xlog/xlogtemp.2367" to
    > > "pg_xlog/000000010000000000000000" (initialization of log file 0,
    > 
    > This is not related -- it seems your filesystem doesn't support hard
    > links. I thought we used "junctions" on versions of Windows that
    > support them which I would have expected would include XP but my
    > knowledge of Windows is thin and obsolete.
    If I understood him correctly marcin seems to mount a windows share on linux 
    via some vbox-proprietary pseudo filesystem. That wont get detected and thus 
    no junctions will be used... (I have doubts you even can create them via 
    vboxfs (or even smb)).
    I would consider that a unsupported setup. Agreed?
    
    Andres
    
    
  12. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu> — 2010-02-15T11:55:36Z

    On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
    
    > If I understood him correctly marcin seems to mount a windows share on linux
    > via some vbox-proprietary pseudo filesystem. That wont get detected and thus
    > no junctions will be used... (I have doubts you even can create them via
    > vboxfs (or even smb)).
    > I would consider that a unsupported setup. Agreed?
    
    I'm not sure which versions of Windows we support in general. But on
    further thought I thought we only used hard links for xlog files on
    systems where we knew they worked and just did a rename() on systems
    without them. So I'm puzzled why we're trying to hard link on this
    system. Perhaps we need to make this a run-time check instead of just
    making it depend on the system.
    
    
    -- 
    greg
    
    
  13. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> — 2010-02-15T12:01:46Z

    On Monday 15 February 2010 12:55:36 Greg Stark wrote:
    > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
    > > If I understood him correctly marcin seems to mount a windows share on
    > > linux via some vbox-proprietary pseudo filesystem. That wont get
    > > detected and thus no junctions will be used... (I have doubts you even
    > > can create them via vboxfs (or even smb)).
    > > I would consider that a unsupported setup. Agreed?
    > 
    > I'm not sure which versions of Windows we support in general. But on
    > further thought I thought we only used hard links for xlog files on
    > systems where we knew they worked and just did a rename() on systems
    > without them. So I'm puzzled why we're trying to hard link on this
    > system. Perhaps we need to make this a run-time check instead of just
    > making it depend on the system.
    Well, I guess linux is normally a system where hardlinking is considered safe. 
    And I dont really see a problem with that - for example we require ntfs on 
    windows as well...
    In the end its only some strange filesystem whats causing the issue here...
    
    Andres
    
    
  14. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Marcin Mańk <marcin.mank@gmail.com> — 2010-02-15T13:50:03Z

    Yes, the issue with initdb failing is unrelated (and I have no problem
    about the fs being unsupported). But fsync still DOES fail on
    directories from the mount.
    
    >> But I would not be that sure that eg. NFS or something like that won`t
    >> complain.
    > It does not.
    >
    
    What if someone mounts a NFS share from a system that does not support
    directory fsync (per buildfarm: unixware, AIX) on Linux? I agree that
    this is asking for trouble, but...
    
    Greetings
    Marcin Mańk
    
    
  15. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> — 2010-02-15T14:02:35Z

    On Monday 15 February 2010 14:50:03 marcin mank wrote:
    > Yes, the issue with initdb failing is unrelated (and I have no problem
    > about the fs being unsupported). But fsync still DOES fail on
    > directories from the mount.
    > 
    > >> But I would not be that sure that eg. NFS or something like that won`t
    > >> complain.
    > > 
    > > It does not.
    > 
    > What if someone mounts a NFS share from a system that does not support
    > directory fsync (per buildfarm: unixware, AIX) on Linux? I agree that
    > this is asking for trouble, but...
    Then nothing. The fsync via nfs or such is a local operation. There is nothing 
    like a "fsync" command transported - i.e. the fsync controls the local cache 
    not the remote one...
    
    Andres
    
    
  16. Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> — 2010-02-15T14:15:40Z

    2010/2/15 Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>:
    > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, marcin mank <marcin.mank@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> LOG:  could not link file "pg_xlog/xlogtemp.2367" to
    >> "pg_xlog/000000010000000000000000" (initialization of log file 0,
    >>
    >
    > This is not related -- it seems your filesystem doesn't support hard
    > links. I thought we used "junctions" on versions of Windows that
    > support them which I would have expected would include XP but my
    > knowledge of Windows is thin and obsolete.
    
    Junctions are for symbolic links, and only valid for directories. NTFS
    has "real" hardlinks though CreateLink(). No idea if that works on
    remote filesystems though.
    
    But AFAIK, we don't use that on Windows. But the rest of the thread
    has indicated why this shows up anyway :)
    
    
    -- 
     Magnus Hagander
     Me: http://www.hagander.net/
     Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
    
    
  17. Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> — 2010-02-21T23:43:26Z

    On Monday 15 February 2010 01:50:57 Greg Stark wrote:
    > Log Message:
    > -----------
    > Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after copying
    > all the data and using posix_fadvise to nudge the OS into flushing it
    > earlier. This also hopefully makes CREATE DATABASE avoid spamming the
    > cache.
    > 
    > Tests show a big speedup on Linux at least on some filesystems.
    > 
    > Idea and patch from Andres Freund.
    I just found a relatively big problem with one of your modifications on the 
    patch - you removed the 
    FreeDir(xldir);
    xldir = AllocateDir(fromdir);
    pair - unfortunately its crucial because otherwise the DIR does not get 
    rewound - that resulted in *no* files getting fsync()ed (otherwise the loop 
    above wouldn't have finished yet...).
    I think that was also causing the problems I pointed out in " Directory fsync 
    and other fun"...
    
    You removed it because you didn't want to open the directory twice? I think 
    doing that is simpler than using rewinddir - I have no idea how usable that 
    one is on windows for example
    
    Could you add it back?
    
    Andres
    
    
  18. Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu> — 2010-02-22T00:11:49Z

    On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
    > Could you add it back?
    >
    
    Oops, sorry. Sigh. Done.
    
    -- 
    greg
    
    
  19. Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2010-02-22T02:54:40Z

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> writes:
    > I just found a relatively big problem with one of your modifications on the 
    > patch - you removed the 
    > FreeDir(xldir);
    > xldir = AllocateDir(fromdir);
    > pair - unfortunately its crucial because otherwise the DIR does not get 
    > rewound - that resulted in *no* files getting fsync()ed (otherwise the loop 
    > above wouldn't have finished yet...).
    > I think that was also causing the problems I pointed out in " Directory fsync 
    > and other fun"...
    
    Actually, that code had *multiple* problems including stat'ing the wrong
    file entirely, not to mention that this last commit failed to even
    compile.  I also think it should scan the todir not the fromdir, just on
    general principles to avoid any possibility of race conditions.
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  20. Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu> — 2010-02-22T10:15:18Z

    On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
    > Actually, that code had *multiple* problems including stat'ing the wrong
    > file entirely, not to mention that this last commit failed to even
    > compile.  I also think it should scan the todir not the fromdir, just on
    > general principles to avoid any possibility of race conditions.
    
    Argh. I'll be less careless in the future, I promise.
    
    I had concluded that scanning the original directory was odd but
    better because it served to double-check that all the original files
    actually made it and also because if there were any unrelated files
    present there was no need to fsync them. But I agree it's odd and not
    very general for copydir if we decide to use it elsewhere other than
    create database.
    
    
    
    
    -- 
    greg
    
    
  21. Re: Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2010-02-22T14:53:59Z

    Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu> writes:
    > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
    >> I also think it should scan the todir not the fromdir, just on
    >> general principles to avoid any possibility of race conditions.
    
    > I had concluded that scanning the original directory was odd but
    > better because it served to double-check that all the original files
    > actually made it and also because if there were any unrelated files
    > present there was no need to fsync them.
    
    Well, just for the record: if that was actually intentional then both of
    you erred seriously by not including a comment that explained that the
    coding was intentional (and giving the reasoning).  Any reader of the
    code would have assumed that it was a copy-and-paste error, as I did.
    
    > But I agree it's odd and not
    > very general for copydir if we decide to use it elsewhere other than
    > create database.
    
    Yeah, to me it seems more likely to cause problems down the road than
    to catch anything.  If the system is missing directory entries during
    ReadDir then we have problems far beyond what copydir can deal with.
    The point of the fsync loop is just to force the copy results down to
    the platter, not to cross-check that the source directory isn't
    changing.  (And, what's more, I don't believe that the source directory
    can't change during CREATE DATABASE.  Consider delayed cleanup of
    deleted relations during checkpoints.)
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  22. Re: [COMMITTERS] Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2010-02-22T15:42:08Z

    BTW, I notice that after allegedly fixing things, we are now seeing
    fsync failures during CREATE DATABASE in the installcheck phase of
    buildfarm runs on (apparently) all the Windows critters, plus a
    couple of other platforms too.  This mystifies me.  I could believe
    that there was something still wrong with copydir.c, but then how
    come these machines are getting through the earlier "make check"
    phase?
    
    I made a couple of code tweaks just now to try to get more information
    --- the reported EBADF error numbers seem fairly implausible in
    themselves, so I wondered if that's *really* what fsync is reporting.
    I don't have a lot of hope for that though.
    
    Any theories about what is happening?
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  23. Re: [COMMITTERS] Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2010-02-23T05:37:26Z

    I wrote:
    > Any theories about what is happening?
    
    Hah --- the AIX failures, at least, are explained at
    http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/aix/v6r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.basetechref/doc/basetrf1/fsync.htm
    which says
    
    Error Codes
    
    The fsync or fsync_range subroutine is unsuccessful if one or more of the following are true:
    
    EIO	 An I/O error occurred while reading from or writing to the file system.
    EBADF	 The FileDescriptor parameter is not a valid file descriptor open for writing.
    EINVAL	 The file is not a regular file.
    EINTR	 The subroutine was interrupted by a signal.
    
    So the problem is that fsync_fname is trying to fsync a file it's opened
    O_RDONLY.  I don't know whether Windows is similarly picky, but we'll
    soon find out.
    
    Now, this doesn't mean that all is fine and dandy.  I believe that a
    majority of Unixen will reject attempts to open directories for writing,
    so this solution puts us even further away from being able to fsync the
    directories.  I would bet however that the platforms that reject this
    are ones that don't need fsync on directories.  Maybe we just have to
    have two different code paths depending on platform :-(
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  24. Re: [COMMITTERS] Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> — 2010-02-23T07:43:21Z

    Hi Tom,
    
    On Tuesday 23 February 2010 06:37:26 Tom Lane wrote:
    > I wrote:
    > > Any theories about what is happening? 
    > Now, this doesn't mean that all is fine and dandy.  I believe that a
    > majority of Unixen will reject attempts to open directories for writing,
    > so this solution puts us even further away from being able to fsync the
    > directories.  I would bet however that the platforms that reject this
    > are ones that don't need fsync on directories.  Maybe we just have to
    > have two different code paths depending on platform :-(
    Cool.
    You can't open a directory for writing under linux as well though - so that 
    wont be the decisive argument. Do you have a better idea than a configure 
    test?
    
    Andres
    
    
  25. Re: [COMMITTERS] Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu> — 2010-02-23T09:12:02Z

    On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
    > So the problem is that fsync_fname is trying to fsync a file it's opened
    > O_RDONLY.  I don't know whether Windows is similarly picky, but we'll
    > soon find out.
    >
    
    Argh, now I feel silly. I had actually found that in my searches after
    the first batch of problems. But somehow i didn't connect that to the
    current problems. Sorry.
    
    There are other similarly confused OSes that don't allow fsync on
    read-only file descriptors:
    http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2006-02/0488.shtml
    (I wonder if some of them are doing fsync wrong and only syncing
    changes written to this file descriptor and not any file descriptor
    for this file?)
    
    The plan I was thinking of was to pass a flag indicating if it's a
    directory to fsync_fname() and open it RD_ONLY if it's a directory and
    RDRW if it's a file. Then ignore any error returns (or at least EBADF
    and EINVAL) iff the flag indicating it was a directory was true.
    
    I don't like using configure tests for this because I fear someone
    could compile Postgres on a system with one set of behaviour and then
    switch to a different kernel version with a different set of
    behaviour. In the worst case it could be filesystem dependent whether
    you can open directories or whether they accept fsyncs.
    
    -- 
    greg
    
    
  26. Re: [COMMITTERS] Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2010-02-23T15:38:53Z

    Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu> writes:
    > I don't like using configure tests for this because I fear someone
    > could compile Postgres on a system with one set of behaviour and then
    > switch to a different kernel version with a different set of
    > behaviour. In the worst case it could be filesystem dependent whether
    > you can open directories or whether they accept fsyncs.
    
    Yeah, and there's also the problem of cross-compilation.  I don't want
    a configure test either if we can avoid it.
    
    > The plan I was thinking of was to pass a flag indicating if it's a
    > directory to fsync_fname() and open it RD_ONLY if it's a directory and
    > RDRW if it's a file. Then ignore any error returns (or at least EBADF
    > and EINVAL) iff the flag indicating it was a directory was true.
    
    Works for me, but let's first try just ignoring EBADF, which is the only
    value we saw in the recent buildfarm failures.  If we got past the fd<0
    test then EBADF could only indicate a rdonly failure, whereas it's less
    clear what EINVAL might cover.
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  27. Re: [COMMITTERS] Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2010-02-23T16:13:06Z

    I wrote:
    > BTW, I notice that after allegedly fixing things, we are now seeing
    > fsync failures during CREATE DATABASE in the installcheck phase of
    > buildfarm runs on (apparently) all the Windows critters, plus a
    > couple of other platforms too.  This mystifies me.  I could believe
    > that there was something still wrong with copydir.c, but then how
    > come these machines are getting through the earlier "make check"
    > phase?
    
    BTW, although things seem to be going green with the RDONLY->RDWR
    change, I'm still mystified why these machines didn't fail at
    "make check".  Is it possible that "make check" runs the postmaster
    with fsync disabled?  I don't see that in the code anywhere...
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  28. Re: [COMMITTERS] Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu> — 2010-02-28T18:00:07Z

    On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
    >> The plan I was thinking of was to pass a flag indicating if it's a
    >> directory to fsync_fname() and open it RD_ONLY if it's a directory and
    >> RDRW if it's a file. Then ignore any error returns (or at least EBADF
    >> and EINVAL) iff the flag indicating it was a directory was true.
    >
    > Works for me, but let's first try just ignoring EBADF, which is the only
    > value we saw in the recent buildfarm failures.  If we got past the fd<0
    > test then EBADF could only indicate a rdonly failure, whereas it's less
    > clear what EINVAL might cover.
    
    So I'm thinking of something like this.
    Ignore ESDIR when opening a directory (and return immediately)
    and ignore EBADF when trying to fsync a directory.
    
    
    -- 
    greg
    
  29. Re: [COMMITTERS] Re: pgsql: Speed up CREATE DATABASE by deferring the fsyncs until after

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2010-02-28T19:31:00Z

    Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu> writes:
    > So I'm thinking of something like this.
    > Ignore ESDIR when opening a directory (and return immediately)
    > and ignore EBADF when trying to fsync a directory.
    
    Seems reasonable, but get rid of the comment "However we can't do this
    just yet, it has portability issues"; and you've got a double semicolon
    in one place.  It might also be worth commenting the BasicOpenFile calls
    along the lines of "Many OSs don't let us open directories RDWR, while
    some reject fsync on files opened RDONLY, so we need two cases."
    
    			regards, tom lane