Re: AIO v2.5
Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
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aio: Fix assertion, clarify README
- 7b98c5536818 18.0 landed
- d3f97fd1dda3 19 (unreleased) landed
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aio: Fix reference to outdated name
- f20a347e1a61 19 (unreleased) landed
- 95163cbe111c 18.0 landed
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aio: Fix possible state confusions due to interrupt processing
- acad909321a4 18.0 landed
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aio: Improve debug logging around waiting for IOs
- 039bfc457e43 18.0 landed
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aio: Fix crash potential for pg_aios views due to late state update
- 0d9114b7040d 18.0 landed
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Increase BAS_BULKREAD based on effective_io_concurrency
- 15f0cb26b530 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Add Valgrind buffer access instrumentation
- 8ab4241b9f4f 18.0 landed
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aio: Make AIO more compatible with valgrind
- 8e293e689bab 18.0 landed
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aio: Avoid spurious coverity warning
- 57dec20fd469 18.0 landed
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tests: Fix incompatibility of test_aio with *_FORCE_RELEASE
- a6285b150ad3 18.0 landed
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tests: Cope with WARNINGs during failed CREATE DB on windows
- 43dca8a11624 18.0 landed
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aio: Add errcontext for processing I/Os for another backend
- b3219c69fc1e 18.0 landed
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aio: Add README.md explaining higher level design
- fdd146a8ef2b 18.0 landed
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aio: Minor comment improvements
- e19dc74491e6 18.0 landed
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aio: Add test_aio module
- 93bc3d75d8e1 18.0 landed
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aio: Add pg_aios view
- 60f566b4f243 18.0 landed
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docs: Add acronym and glossary entries for I/O and AIO
- 46250cdcb037 18.0 landed
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Enable IO concurrency on all systems
- 2a5e709e721c 18.0 landed
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read_stream: Introduce and use optional batchmode support
- ae3df4b34155 18.0 landed
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docs: Reframe track_io_timing related docs as wait time
- b27f8637ea70 18.0 landed
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bufmgr: Use AIO in StartReadBuffers()
- 12ce89fd0708 18.0 landed
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bufmgr: Implement AIO read support
- 047cba7fa0f8 18.0 landed
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aio: Add WARNING result status
- ef64fe26bad9 18.0 landed
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Let caller of PageIsVerified() control ignore_checksum_failure
- d445990adc41 18.0 landed
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pgstat: Allow checksum errors to be reported in critical sections
- b96d3c389755 18.0 landed
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Add errhint_internal()
- 4244cf687697 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Track pincount in BufferDesc as well
- d6d8054dc72d 18.0 landed
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aio, bufmgr: Comment fixes/improvements
- 08ccd56ac765 18.0 landed
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Fix mis-attribution of checksum failure stats to the wrong database
- dee80024688c 18.0 landed
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aio: Implement support for reads in smgr/md/fd
- 50cb7505b301 18.0 landed
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aio: Add io_method=io_uring
- c325a7633fcb 18.0 landed
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aio: Add liburing dependency
- 8eadd5c73c44 18.0 landed
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aio: Rename pgaio_io_prep_* to pgaio_io_start_*
- 9469d7fdd2bc 18.0 landed
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aio: Pass result of local callbacks to ->report_return
- f321ec237a54 18.0 landed
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aio: Be more paranoid about interrupts
- 96da9050a57a 18.0 landed
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Redefine max_files_per_process to control additionally opened files
- adb5f85fa5a0 18.0 landed
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aio: Change prefix of PgAioResultStatus values to PGAIO_RS_
- ca3067cc573d 18.0 landed
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bufmgr: Improve stats when a buffer is read in concurrently
- 202b12774d09 18.0 landed
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aio: Add io_method=worker
- 247ce06b883d 18.0 landed
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aio: Infrastructure for io_method=worker
- 55b454d0e140 18.0 landed
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aio: Add core asynchronous I/O infrastructure
- da7226993fd4 18.0 landed
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aio: Basic subsystem initialization
- 02844012b304 18.0 landed
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tests: Expand temp table tests to some pin related matters
- 1a22a8a0f131 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Introduce FlushLocalBuffer()
- 4b4d33b9ea9f 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Introduce TerminateLocalBufferIO()
- dd6f2618f681 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Fix dangerous coding pattern in GetLocalVictimBuffer()
- fa6af9b25e4b 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Introduce StartLocalBufferIO()
- 771ba90298e2 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Introduce InvalidateLocalBuffer()
- 0762a151b0e0 18.0 landed
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Allow lwlocks to be disowned
- f8d7f29b3e81 18.0 landed
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Make jsonb casts to scalar types translate JSON null to SQL NULL.
- a5579a90af05 18.0 cited
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bufmgr/smgr: Don't cross segment boundaries in StartReadBuffers()
- 755a4c10d19d 18.0 landed
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Use aux process resource owner in walsender
- 57f370247127 18.0 landed
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bufmgr: Return early in ScheduleBufferTagForWriteback() if fsync=off
- 488f826c729b 18.0 landed
Hi,
On 2025-03-25 06:33:21 -0700, Noah Misch wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 10:30:27PM -0400, Andres Freund wrote:
> > On 2025-03-24 17:45:37 -0700, Noah Misch wrote:
> > > (We may be due for a test mode that does smgrreleaseall() at every
> > > CHECK_FOR_INTERRUPTS()?)
> >
> > I suspect we are. I'm a bit afraid of even trying...
> >
> > ...
> >
> > It's extremely slow - but at least the main regression as well as the aio tests pass!
>
> One less thing!
Unfortunately I'm now doubting the thoroughness of my check - while I made
every CFI() execute smgrreleaseall(), I didn't trigger CFI() in cases where we
trigger it conditionally. E.g. elog(DEBUGN, ...) only executes a CFI if
log_min_messages <= DEBUGN...
I'll try that in a bit.
> > Because the end state varies, depending on the number of previously staged
> > IOs, the IO method and whether batchmode is enabled, I think it's better if
> > the "function naming pattern" (i.e. FileStartReadv, smgrstartreadv etc) is
> > *not* aligned with an internal state name. It will just mislead readers to
> > think that there's a deterministic mapping when that does not exist.
>
> That's fair. Could we provide the mapping in a comment, something like the
> following?
Yes!
I wonder if it should also be duplicated or referenced elsewhere, although I
am not sure where precisely.
> --- a/src/include/storage/aio_internal.h
> +++ b/src/include/storage/aio_internal.h
> @@ -34,5 +34,10 @@
> * linearly through all states.
> *
> - * State changes should all go through pgaio_io_update_state().
> + * State changes should all go through pgaio_io_update_state(). Its callers
> + * use these naming conventions:
> + *
> + * - A "start" function (e.g. FileStartReadV()) moves an IO from
> + * PGAIO_HS_HANDED_OUT to at least PGAIO_HS_STAGED and at most
> + * PGAIO_HS_COMPLETED_LOCAL.
> */
> typedef enum PgAioHandleState
One detail I'm not sure about: The above change is correct, but perhaps a bit
misleading, because we can actually go "back" to IDLE. Not sure how to best
phrase that though.
> > That's not an excuse for pgaio_io_prep* though, that's a pointlessly different
> > naming that I just stopped seeing.
I assume you're on board with renaming _io_prep* to _io_start_*?
> > I'll try to think more about this, perhaps I can make myself see your POV
> > more.
>
> > > As the patch stands, LockBufferForCleanup() can succeed when
> > > ConditionalLockBufferForCleanup() would have returned false.
> >
> > That's already true today, right? In master ConditionalLockBufferForCleanup()
> > for temp buffers checks LocalRefCount, whereas LockBufferForCleanup() doesn't.
>
> I'm finding a LocalRefCount check under LockBufferForCleanup:
I guess I should have stopped looking at code / replying before my last email
last night... Not sure how I missed that.
> CheckBufferIsPinnedOnce(Buffer buffer)
> {
> if (BufferIsLocal(buffer))
> {
> if (LocalRefCount[-buffer - 1] != 1)
> elog(ERROR, "incorrect local pin count: %d",
> LocalRefCount[-buffer - 1]);
> }
> else
> {
> if (GetPrivateRefCount(buffer) != 1)
> elog(ERROR, "incorrect local pin count: %d",
> GetPrivateRefCount(buffer));
> }
> }
Pretty random orthogonal thought, that I was reminded of by the above code
snippet:
It sure seems we should at some point get rid of LocalRefCount[] and just use
the GetPrivateRefCount() infrastructure for both shared and local buffers. I
don't think the GetPrivateRefCount() infrastructure cares about
local/non-local, leaving a few asserts aside. If we do that, and start to use
BM_IO_IN_PROGRESS, combined with ResourceOwnerRememberBufferIO(), the set of
differences between shared and local buffers would be a lot smaller.
> > > Like the comment, I expect it's academic today. I expect it will stay
> > > academic. Anything that does a cleanup will start by reading the buffer,
> > > which will resolve any refcnt the AIO subsystems holds for a read. If there's
> > > an AIO write, the LockBuffer(buffer, BUFFER_LOCK_EXCLUSIVE) will block on
> > > that. How about just removing the ConditionalLockBufferForCleanup() changes
> > > or replacing them with a comment (like the present paragraph)?
> >
> > I think we'll need an expanded version of what I suggest once we have writes -
> > but as you say, it shouldn't matter as long as we only have reads. So I think
> > moving the relevant changes, with adjusted caveats, to the bufmgr: write
> > change makes sense.
>
> Moving those changes works for me. I'm not currently seeing the need under
> writes, but that may get clearer upon reaching those patches.
FWIW, I don't think it's currently worth looking at the write side in detail,
there's enough required changes to make that not necessarily the best use of
your time at this point. At least:
- Write logic needs to be rebased ontop of the patch series to not hit bit
dirty buffers while IO is going on
The performance impact of doing the memory copies is rather substantial, as
on intel memory bandwidth is *the* IO bottleneck even just for the checksum
computation, without a copy. That makes the memory copy for something like
bounce buffers hurt really badly.
And the memory usage of bounce buffers is also really concerning.
And even without checksums, several filesystems *really* don't like buffers
getting modified during DIO writes. Which I think would mean we ought to use
bounce buffers for *all* writes, which would impose a *very* substantial
overhead (basically removing the benefit of DMA happening off-cpu).
- Right now the sync.c integration with smgr.c/md.c isn't properly safe to use
in a critical section
The only reason it doesn't immediately fail is that it's reasonably rare
that RegisterSyncRequest() fails *and* either:
- smgropen()->hash_search(HASH_ENTER) decides to resize the hash table, even
though the lookup is guaranteed to suceed for io_method=worker.
- an io_method=uring completion is run in a different backend and smgropen()
needs to build a new entry and thus needs to allocate memory
For a bit I thought this could be worked around easily enough by not doing
an smgropen() in mdsyncfiletag(), or adding a "fallible" smgropen() and
instead just opening the file directly. That actually does kinda solve the
problem, but only because the memory allocation in PathNameOpenFile()
uses malloc(), not palloc() and thus doesn't trigger
- I think it requires new lwlock.c infrastructure (as v1 of aio had), to make
LockBuffer(BUFFER_LOCK_EXCLUSIVE) etc wait in a concurrency safe manner for
in-progress writes
I can think of ways to solve this purely in bufmgr.c, but only in ways that
would cause other problems (e.g. setting BM_IO_IN_PROGRESS before waiting
for an exclusive lock) and/or expensive.
- My current set of patches doesn't implement bgwriter_flush_after,
checkpointer_flush_after
I think that's not too hard to do, it's mainly round tuits.
- temp_file_limit is not respected by aio writes
I guess that could be ok if AIO writes are only used by checkpointer /
bgwriter, but we need to figure out a way to deal with that. Perhaps by
redesigning temp_file_limit, the current implementation seems like rather
substantial layering violation.
- Too much duplicated code, as there's the aio and non-aio write paths. That
might be ok for a bit.
I updated the commit messages of the relevant commits with the above, there
were abbreviated versions of most of the above, but not in enough detail for
anybody but me (and maybe not even that).
> > Do you think it's worth mentioning the above workaround? I'm mildly inclined
> > that not.
>
> Perhaps not in that detail, but perhaps we can rephrase (b) to not imply
> exit+reenter is banned. Maybe "(b) start another batch (without first exiting
> one)". It's also fine as-is, though.
I updated it to:
* b) start another batch (without first exiting batchmode and re-entering
* before returning)
> > I'm ok with all of these. In order of preference:
> >
> > 1) READ_STREAM_USE_BATCHING or READ_STREAM_BATCH_OK
> > 2) READ_STREAM_BATCHMODE_AWARE
> > 3) READ_STREAM_CALLBACK_BATCHMODE_AWARE
>
> Same for me.
For now I'll leave it at READ_STREAM_USE_BATCHING, but if Thomas has a
preference I'll go for whatever we have a majority for.
Greetings,
Andres Freund