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1. PG minor version in data directory?

   Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> — 2023-08-19T01:36:34Z

   Hiyas,
   
   Anyone know if there's a good way to tell what *minor* version
   of PostgreSQL a data directory has been run with?
   
      eg 15.3 vs 15.4
   
   Am working on some "automatic upgrade" stuff, and I'm only aware
   of the major version being tracked in PGDATA/PG_VERSION.
   
   If the minor version is already tracked somewhere as well, that
   would be extremely useful for my use case.
   
   Otherwise, I'll have to start manually adding info to track it.
   
   Regards and best wishes,
   
   Justin Clift
   
   
   
   

2. Re: PG minor version in data directory?

   David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> — 2023-08-19T04:10:23Z

   On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 6:36 PM Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> wrote:
   
   > If the minor version is already tracked somewhere as well, that
   > would be extremely useful for my use case.
   >
   >
   The data directory doesn't have a concept of "minor version".  Only the
   installed libraries and binaries do.
   
   David J.
   

3. Re: PG minor version in data directory?

   Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> — 2023-08-19T04:22:25Z

   On 2023-08-19 14:10, David G. Johnston wrote:
   > On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 6:36 PM Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> 
   > wrote:
   > 
   >> If the minor version is already tracked somewhere as well, that
   >> would be extremely useful for my use case.
   >> 
   >> 
   > The data directory doesn't have a concept of "minor version".  Only the
   > installed libraries and binaries do.
   
   Thanks, that's what I figured.  I'll have to keep state in a 
   PG_VERSION_MINOR
   there or something. :)
   
   Regards and best wishes,
   
   Justin Clift
   
   
   
   

4. Re: PG minor version in data directory?

   Peter J. Holzer <hjp-pgsql@hjp.at> — 2023-08-19T09:14:22Z

   On 2023-08-19 14:22:25 +1000, Justin Clift wrote:
   > On 2023-08-19 14:10, David G. Johnston wrote:
   > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 6:36 PM Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
   > > wrote:
   > > 
   > > > If the minor version is already tracked somewhere as well, that
   > > > would be extremely useful for my use case.
   > > > 
   > > > 
   > > The data directory doesn't have a concept of "minor version".  Only the
   > > installed libraries and binaries do.
   > 
   > Thanks, that's what I figured.  I'll have to keep state in a
   > PG_VERSION_MINOR
   > there or something. :)
   
   Wouldn't it be better to ask whatever system you use to install the
   software for the version?
   
   E.g. on Debian derived Linuux distributions:
   
   % dpkg -l postgresql-14
   Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
   | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
   |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
   ||/ Name           Version               Architecture Description
   +++-==============-=====================-============-=========================================================
   ii  postgresql-14  14.9-0ubuntu0.22.04.1 amd64        The World's Most Advanced Open Source Relational Database
   
   or
   
   % apt policy postgresql-14
   postgresql-14:
     Installed: 14.9-0ubuntu0.22.04.1
     Candidate: 14.9-0ubuntu0.22.04.1
     Version table:
    *** 14.9-0ubuntu0.22.04.1 500
           500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security/main amd64 Packages
           500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates/main amd64 Packages
           100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
        14.2-1ubuntu1 500
           500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy/main amd64 Packages
   
   If you compile the software yourself, you could always ask postgres:
   
   % /usr/lib/postgresql/14/bin/postgres --version
   postgres (PostgreSQL) 14.9 (Ubuntu 14.9-0ubuntu0.22.04.1)
   
           hp
   
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5. Re: PG minor version in data directory?

   Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> — 2023-08-19T18:04:20Z

   On 2023-08-19 19:14, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
   > On 2023-08-19 14:22:25 +1000, Justin Clift wrote:
   <snip>
   >> Thanks, that's what I figured.  I'll have to keep state in a
   >> PG_VERSION_MINOR
   >> there or something. :)
   > 
   > Wouldn't it be better to ask whatever system you use to install the
   > software for the version?
   
   In the general sense, yes. :)
   
   For the very specific use case I'm working with (!), things are a bit
   different.  It's for this, if that helps with context:
   
      * https://github.com/pgautoupgrade/docker-pgautoupgrade
      * https://hub.docker.com/r/pgautoupgrade/pgautoupgrade  <-- docker 
   repo
   
   It's a docker container that people use for running PostgreSQL, but
   also has the ability to (automatically) upgrade the data files from
   older versions.  That's the piece I'm working on.
   
   Such a thing is useful for people that need a PG docker container,
   and whose needs are fairly simple.  They can use point at this one,
   and they'll have a self-upgrading PG version that's fairly "fire and
   forget".
   
   Thus far (1 month in), it seems to work ok (for us) and some other
   people.
   
   Am obviously looking to improve its capabilities over time too. :)
   
   + Justin