Re: PATCH: logical_work_mem and logical streaming of large in-progress transactions
Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
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Tighten the concurrent abort check during decoding.
- 2ce353fc1902 14.0 landed
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Improve hash_create()'s API for some added robustness.
- b3817f5f7746 14.0 landed
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Use HASH_BLOBS for xidhash.
- a1b8aa1e4eec 14.0 landed
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Fix initialization of RelationSyncEntry for streaming transactions.
- 69bd60672af6 14.0 landed
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Remove unused function declaration in logicalproto.h.
- ddd5f6d2609b 14.0 landed
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Add additional tests to test streaming of in-progress transactions.
- 58b5ae9d62bd 14.0 landed
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Fix inline marking introduced in commit 464824323e.
- ac15b499f7f9 14.0 landed
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Add support for streaming to built-in logical replication.
- 464824323e57 14.0 landed
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Fix the SharedFileSetUnregister API.
- 4ab77697f67a 14.0 landed
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Fix comment in procarray.c
- 77c7267c37f7 14.0 cited
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Suppress compiler warning in non-cassert builds.
- e942af7b8261 14.0 cited
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Extend the BufFile interface.
- 808e13b282ef 14.0 landed
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Mark a few logical decoding related variables with PGDLLIMPORT.
- b48cac3b10a0 14.0 landed
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Implement streaming mode in ReorderBuffer.
- 7259736a6e5b 14.0 landed
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Extend the logical decoding output plugin API with stream methods.
- 45fdc9738b36 14.0 landed
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WAL Log invalidations at command end with wal_level=logical.
- c55040ccd017 14.0 landed
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Immediately WAL-log subtransaction and top-level XID association.
- 0bead9af484c 14.0 landed
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Allow logical replication to transfer data in binary format.
- 9de77b545313 14.0 cited
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Only superuser can set sslcert/sslkey in postgres_fdw user mappings
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Track statistics for spilling of changes from ReorderBuffer.
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Add logical_decoding_work_mem to limit ReorderBuffer memory usage.
- cec2edfa7859 13.0 landed
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logical decoding: process ASSIGNMENT during snapshot build
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Emit invalidations to standby for transactions without xid.
- c6ff84b06a68 9.6.0 cited
On 01/12/2018 05:35 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On 1/11/18 18:23, Greg Stark wrote: >> AIUI spilling to disk doesn't affect absorbing future updates, we >> would just keep accumulating them in memory right? We won't need to >> unspill until it comes time to commit. > > Once a transaction has been serialized, future updates keep accumulating > in memory, until perhaps it gets serialized again. But then at commit > time, if a transaction has been partially serialized at all, all the > remaining changes are also serialized before the whole thing is read > back in (see reorderbuffer.c line 855). > > So one optimization would be to specially keep track of all transactions > that have been serialized already and pick those first for further > serialization, because it will be done eventually anyway. > > But this is only a secondary optimization, because it doesn't help in > the extreme cases that either no (or few) transactions have been > serialized or all (or most) transactions have been serialized. > >> The real aim should be to try to pick the transaction that will be >> committed furthest in the future. That gives you the most memory to >> use for live transactions for the longest time and could let you >> process the maximum amount of transactions without spilling them. So >> either the oldest transaction (in the expectation that it's been open >> a while and appears to be a long-lived batch job that will stay open >> for a long time) or the youngest transaction (in the expectation that >> all transactions are more or less equally long-lived) might make >> sense. > > Yes, that makes sense. We'd still need to keep a separate ordered list > of transactions somewhere, but that might be easier if we just order > them in the order we see them. > Wouldn't the 'toplevel_by_lsn' be suitable for this? Subtransactions don't really commit independently, but as part of the toplevel xact. And that list is ordered by LSN, which is pretty much exactly the order in which we see the transactions. I feel somewhat uncomfortable about evicting oldest (or youngest) transactions for based on some assumed correlation with the commit order. I'm pretty sure that will bite us badly for some workloads. Another somewhat non-intuitive detail is that because ReorderBuffer switched to Generation allocator for changes (which usually represent 99% of the memory used during decoding), it does not reuse memory the way AllocSet does. Actually, it does not reuse memory at all, aiming to eventually give the memory back to libc (which AllocSet can't do). Because of this evicting the youngest transactions seems like a quite bad idea, because those chunks will not be reused and there may be other chunks on the blocks, preventing their release. Yeah, complicated stuff. -- Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services