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  1. Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes

    Vik Fearing <vik.fearing@2ndquadrant.com> — 2019-12-29T23:03:01Z

    Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on how to
    migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
    trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
    
    
    This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE.  I don't know how far it should be
    backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't see any
    place to put it for 13 and future versions.
    
    -- 
    
    Vik Fearing
    
    
  2. Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes

    Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> — 2020-01-03T08:57:10Z

    On 2019-12-30 00:03, Vik Fearing wrote:
    > Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on how to
    > migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
    > trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
    > 
    > This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE.  I don't know how far it should be
    > backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't see any
    > place to put it for 13 and future versions.
    
    I think this change is sensible.  But to what extent do we want to edit 
    around in old release notes?  Should we just keep it for PG13?
    
    I think we should also extend the blurb in the release notes to mention 
    the option of using logical replication to upgrade.  Otherwise, if you 
    follow the link you propose, then one might think that logical 
    replication upgrading is not applicable since only pg_dump and 
    pg_upgrade were mentioned in the place the link came from.
    
    -- 
    Peter Eisentraut              http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
    PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
    
    
    
    
  3. Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes

    Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> — 2020-01-03T10:00:36Z

    On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:57 AM Peter Eisentraut <
    peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
    
    > On 2019-12-30 00:03, Vik Fearing wrote:
    > > Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on how to
    > > migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
    > > trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
    > >
    > > This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE.  I don't know how far it should be
    > > backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't see any
    > > place to put it for 13 and future versions.
    >
    > I think this change is sensible.  But to what extent do we want to edit
    > around in old release notes?  Should we just keep it for PG13?
    >
    
    I think it makes sense to backpatch it. Lots of people still upgrade to at
    least 12 and 11, and that's a likely place for them to start reading. And
    if we're already covering 12 and 11, it is probably no big extra effort to
    do other supported branches as well.
    
    
    I think we should also extend the blurb in the release notes to mention
    > the option of using logical replication to upgrade.  Otherwise, if you
    > follow the link you propose, then one might think that logical
    > replication upgrading is not applicable since only pg_dump and
    > pg_upgrade were mentioned in the place the link came from.
    >
    >
    +1.
    
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     Magnus Hagander
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  4. Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes

    Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> — 2020-01-09T15:19:44Z

    On 2020-01-03 11:00, Magnus Hagander wrote:
    >     On 2019-12-30 00:03, Vik Fearing wrote:
    >      > Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on
    >     how to
    >      > migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
    >      > trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
    >      >
    >      > This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE.  I don't know how far it
    >     should be
    >      > backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't
    >     see any
    >      > place to put it for 13 and future versions.
    > 
    >     I think this change is sensible.  But to what extent do we want to edit
    >     around in old release notes?  Should we just keep it for PG13?
    > 
    > 
    > I think it makes sense to backpatch it. Lots of people still upgrade to 
    > at least 12 and 11, and that's a likely place for them to start reading. 
    > And if we're already covering 12 and 11, it is probably no big extra 
    > effort to do other supported branches as well.
    
    Committed to 12, 11, 10.  After that the patch didn't apply anymore and 
    nobody should be upgrading to that anyway.
    
    -- 
    Peter Eisentraut              http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
    PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
    
    
    
    
  5. Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes

    Vik Fearing <vik.fearing@2ndquadrant.com> — 2020-01-09T18:22:00Z

    On 09/01/2020 16:19, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
    > On 2020-01-03 11:00, Magnus Hagander wrote:
    >>     On 2019-12-30 00:03, Vik Fearing wrote:
    >>      > Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on
    >>     how to
    >>      > migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
    >>      > trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
    >>      >
    >>      > This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE.  I don't know how far it
    >>     should be
    >>      > backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't
    >>     see any
    >>      > place to put it for 13 and future versions.
    >>
    >>     I think this change is sensible.  But to what extent do we want
    >> to edit
    >>     around in old release notes?  Should we just keep it for PG13?
    >>
    >>
    >> I think it makes sense to backpatch it. Lots of people still upgrade
    >> to at least 12 and 11, and that's a likely place for them to start
    >> reading. And if we're already covering 12 and 11, it is probably no
    >> big extra effort to do other supported branches as well.
    >
    > Committed to 12, 11, 10.  After that the patch didn't apply anymore
    > and nobody should be upgrading to that anyway.
    >
    
    Thanks!  And thanks for adding the logical replication text, too.
    
    -- 
    
    Vik Fearing