Re: generic plans and "initial" pruning

Tomas Vondra <tomas@vondra.me>

From: Tomas Vondra <tomas@vondra.me>
To: Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Date: 2024-12-05T14:07:12Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers

On 12/5/24 12:28, Amit Langote wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 3:53 PM Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 2:20 AM Tomas Vondra <tomas@vondra.me> wrote:
>>> Sure, changing the APIs is allowed, I'm just wondering if maybe there
>>> might be a way to not have this issue, or at least notice the missing
>>> call early.
>>>
>>> I haven't tried, wouldn't it be better to modify ExecutorStart() to do
>>> the retries internally? I mean, the extensions wouldn't need to check if
>>> the plan is still valid, ExecutorStart() would take care of that. Yeah,
>>> it might need some new arguments, but that's more obvious.
>>
>> One approach could be to move some code from standard_ExecutorStart()
>> into ExecutorStart(). Specifically, the code responsible for setting
>> up enough state in the EState to perform ExecDoInitialPruning(), which
>> takes locks that might invalidate the plan. If the plan does become
>> invalid, the hook and standard_ExecutorStart() are not called.
>> Instead, the caller, ExecutorStartExt() in this case, creates a new
>> plan.
>>
>> This avoids the need to add ExecPlanStillValid() checks anywhere,
>> whether in core or extension code. However, it does mean accessing the
>> PlannedStmt earlier than InitPlan(), but the current placement of the
>> code is not exactly set in stone.
> 
> I tried this approach and found that it essentially disables testing
> of this patch using the delay_execution module, which relies on the
> ExecutorStart_hook(). The way the testing works is that the hook in
> delay_execution.c pauses the execution of a cached plan to allow a
> concurrent session to drop an index referenced in the plan. When
> unpaused, execution initialization resumes by calling
> standard_ExecutorStart(). At this point, obtaining the lock on the
> partition whose index has been dropped invalidates the plan, which the
> hook detects and reports. It then also reports the successful
> re-execution of an updated plan that no longer references the dropped
> index.  Hmm.
> 

It's not clear to me why the change disables this testing, and I can't
try without a patch. Could you explain?


thanks

-- 
Tomas Vondra




Commits

  1. Stamp 19beta1.

  2. Revert "Don't lock partitions pruned by initial pruning"

  3. Ensure first ModifyTable rel initialized if all are pruned

  4. Fix bug in cbc127917 to handle nested Append correctly

  5. Remove unstable test suite added by 525392d57

  6. Don't lock partitions pruned by initial pruning

  7. Fix an oversight in cbc127917 to handle MERGE correctly

  8. Track unpruned relids to avoid processing pruned relations

  9. Perform runtime initial pruning outside ExecInitNode()

  10. Move PartitionPruneInfo out of plan nodes into PlannedStmt

  11. Fix setrefs.c's failure to do expression processing on prune steps.

  12. Remove obsolete executor cleanup code

  13. Revert "Move PartitionPruneInfo out of plan nodes into PlannedStmt"

  14. Move PartitioPruneInfo out of plan nodes into PlannedStmt

  15. Refactor and cleanup runtime partition prune code a little

  16. Remove some unnecessary fields from Plan trees.

  17. Remove more redundant relation locking during executor startup.

  18. Shut down Gather's children before shutting down Gather itself.