Re: Statistics Import and Export

Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>

From: Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
To: Corey Huinker <corey.huinker@gmail.com>, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>, jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>, Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>, Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat.oss@gmail.com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>, alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org
Date: 2025-02-24T19:45:51Z
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  1. Change pg_dump default for statistics export.

  2. pg_dump: Adjust reltuples from 0 to -1 for dumps of older versions.

  3. vacuumdb: Don't skip empty relations in --missing-stats-only mode.

  4. pg_dump: Fix query for gathering attribute stats on older versions.

  5. Prevent redeclaration of typedef TocEntry.

  6. Remove unused function parameters in pg_backup_archiver.c.

  7. pg_dump: Retrieve attribute statistics in batches.

  8. pg_dump: Reduce memory usage of dumps with statistics.

  9. Skip second WriteToc() call for custom-format dumps without data.

  10. Add relallfrozen to pg_dump statistics.

  11. Matview statistics depend on matview data.

  12. Add pg_dump --with-{schema|data|statistics} options.

  13. Stats: use schemaname/relname instead of regclass.

  14. CREATE INDEX: do update index stats if autovacuum=off.

  15. Don't convert to and from floats in pg_dump.

  16. CREATE INDEX: don't update table stats if autovacuum=off.

  17. Organize and deduplicate statistics import tests.

  18. Address stats export review comments.

  19. Address stats import review comments.

  20. Add relallfrozen to pg_class

  21. Fix pg_strtof() to not crash on NULL endptr.

  22. Use attnum to identify index columns in pg_restore_attribute_stats().

  23. pg_dump: prepare attribute stats query.

  24. Avoid unnecessary relation stats query in pg_dump.

  25. Remove redundant pg_set_*_stats() variants.

  26. Do not use in-place updates for statistics import.

  27. Fix confusion about data type of pg_class.relpages and relallvisible.

  28. Documentation fixups for dumping statistics.

  29. Trial fix for old cross-version upgrades.

  30. Transfer statistics during pg_upgrade.

  31. Lock table in ShareUpdateExclusive when importing index stats.

  32. Use in-place updates for pg_restore_relation_stats().

  33. Improve error message for replication of generated columns.

  34. pg_dump: Add dumpSchema and dumpData derivative flags.

  35. Disallow modifying statistics on system columns.

  36. Add missing CommandCounterIncrement() in stats import functions.

  37. Add functions pg_restore_relation_stats(), pg_restore_attribute_stats().

  38. Documentation fixup.

  39. Add functions pg_set_attribute_stats() and pg_clear_attribute_stats().

  40. Change pg_*_relation_stats() functions to return type to void.

  41. Disable autovacuum for tables in stats import tests.

  42. Allow pg_set_relation_stats() to set relpages to -1.

  43. Fixup for pg_set_relation_stats().

  44. Create functions pg_set_relation_stats, pg_clear_relation_stats.

  45. Add memory/disk usage for Window aggregate nodes in EXPLAIN.

  46. Improve performance of dumpSequenceData().

  47. Add INJECTION_POINT_CACHED() to run injection points directly from cache

  48. Improve performance of binary_upgrade_set_pg_class_oids().

  49. Improve assertion in mdwritev()

  50. CREATE INDEX: do not update stats during binary upgrade.

  51. Redefine pg_class.reltuples to be -1 before the first VACUUM or ANALYZE.

On Mon, 2025-02-24 at 12:57 -0500, Corey Huinker wrote:
> As I see it, the point is that we're getting an input that is a
> string representation from the query, and the end-goal is to convey
> that value with fidelity to the destination database, so there's
> nothing we can do to get us closer to the string that we already
> have.

As Andres mentioned, for the float-to-string conversion, we're using
what the backend does, so it doesn't seem like a problem.

But you have a point in that float4in() does slightly more work than
strtof() to handle platform differences about NaN/Inf. I'm not sure how
much to weigh that concern, but I agree that there is non-zero
cognitive overhead here.

Should we solve that problem by moving some of that code to src/common
src/port somewhere?

> I don't have benchmark numbers beyond the instinct that
> doing something takes more time than doing nothing. Granted,
> "nothing" here means 96 bytes of memory and 3 strncpy()s, and
> "something" is 24 bytes of memory, 2 atoi()s, 1 strtof() plus
> whatever memory and processing we do back in converting back to
> strings.

To me, this argument is, at best, premature optimization. Even if there
were a few cycles saved here somewhere, you'd need to compare that
against the wasted memory. Using 2 int32s and a float4 is only 12 bytes
(not 24) versus 96 for the strings.

Anyone looking at the structure would be wondering (a) why we're using
32 bytes to store something where the natural representation is 4
bytes; and (b) whether that memory adds up to anything worth worrying
about. I'm sure we could analyze that and write an explanatory comment,
but that has non-zero cognitive overhead, as well.

Regards,
	Jeff Davis