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TIOGA
Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> — 2000-10-11T18:01:02Z
Does anyone know what backend/tioga is for? It's not Spanish for TOAST, is it? :-) It looks like it wasn't compilable for quite a while. -- Peter Eisentraut peter_e@gmx.net http://yi.org/peter-e/
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Re: TIOGA
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2000-10-11T18:12:57Z
> Does anyone know what backend/tioga is for? It's not Spanish for TOAST, > is it? :-) It looks like it wasn't compilable for quite a while. It was some db visualization tool. There is a web page about it somewhere at Berkeley. I say remove the directory. It is junk now. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: TIOGA
Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 2000-10-11T18:28:06Z
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Does anyone know what backend/tioga is for? It's not Spanish for TOAST, > > is it? :-) It looks like it wasn't compilable for quite a while. > > It was some db visualization tool. There is a web page about it > somewhere at Berkeley. I say remove the directory. It is junk now. that is a bit rash considering that you tend to imply that you don't even know what it is? Peter, according to google, the primary Berkeley site that comes up is: http://datasplash.cs.berkeley.edu/ "DataSplash combines a sophisticated navigation model with a paint program interface with which users can create custom visualizations. A beta version of the software is now available." And, from the overview: "Tioga DataSplash (formerly known as Tioga-2) allows users to interactively create and browse visualizations of database tables. DataSplash was developed by members of the Tioga Project at the University of California at Berkeley. DataSplash software is available on Alpha/OSF, HP/UX, Intel/Linux, and Sparc /Solaris platforms. We are porting to other UNIX platforms as well." The "Quick Tour" looks really cool, but I'm not sure how tied into the whole backend/tioga directory this whole thing is. My first feel is that 'tioga datasplash' is a userland application, but someone else might be able to make a better determination? Check out this, which explains what 'Splashes' are ... it almost gives me the feel of Visual Statistical Modeling ... ? http://datasplash.cs.berkeley.edu/splashes.html If it isn't breaking anything, please leave it in there, as I'd like to look into this a bit further ...
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Re: TIOGA
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2000-10-11T18:31:33Z
Considering no one has used it in 4 years that I remember, my guess is that it is an abandonded Berkeley project. > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Does anyone know what backend/tioga is for? It's not Spanish for TOAST, > > > is it? :-) It looks like it wasn't compilable for quite a while. > > > > It was some db visualization tool. There is a web page about it > > somewhere at Berkeley. I say remove the directory. It is junk now. > > that is a bit rash considering that you tend to imply that you don't even > know what it is? > > Peter, according to google, the primary Berkeley site that comes up is: > > http://datasplash.cs.berkeley.edu/ > > "DataSplash combines a sophisticated navigation model with a paint program > interface with which users can create custom visualizations. A beta > version of the software is now available." > > And, from the overview: > > "Tioga DataSplash (formerly known as Tioga-2) allows users to > interactively create and browse visualizations of database tables. > DataSplash was developed by members of the Tioga Project at the University > of California at Berkeley. DataSplash software is available on Alpha/OSF, > HP/UX, Intel/Linux, and Sparc /Solaris platforms. We are porting to other > UNIX platforms as well." > > The "Quick Tour" looks really cool, but I'm not sure how tied into > the whole backend/tioga directory this whole thing is. My first feel is > that 'tioga datasplash' is a userland application, but someone else might > be able to make a better determination? > > Check out this, which explains what 'Splashes' are ... it almost > gives me the feel of Visual Statistical Modeling ... ? > > http://datasplash.cs.berkeley.edu/splashes.html > > If it isn't breaking anything, please leave it in there, as I'd > like to look into this a bit further ... > > > > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: TIOGA
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2000-10-11T18:36:04Z
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Does anyone know what backend/tioga is for? It's not Spanish for TOAST, > > > is it? :-) It looks like it wasn't compilable for quite a while. > > > > It was some db visualization tool. There is a web page about it > > somewhere at Berkeley. I say remove the directory. It is junk now. > > that is a bit rash considering that you tend to imply that you don't even I was born with a rash..., oh you meant something else. :-) -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: TIOGA
Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 2000-10-11T18:38:16Z
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Considering no one has used it in 4 years that I remember, my guess is > that it is an abandonded Berkeley project. If it does not break anything in our build process, please let it in there while I do further research on what it is ... I personally think what I've seen on the web site so far is interesting and bears further investigation before we just yank it out ... > > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone know what backend/tioga is for? It's not Spanish for TOAST, > > > > is it? :-) It looks like it wasn't compilable for quite a while. > > > > > > It was some db visualization tool. There is a web page about it > > > somewhere at Berkeley. I say remove the directory. It is junk now. > > > > that is a bit rash considering that you tend to imply that you don't even > > know what it is? > > > > Peter, according to google, the primary Berkeley site that comes up is: > > > > http://datasplash.cs.berkeley.edu/ > > > > "DataSplash combines a sophisticated navigation model with a paint program > > interface with which users can create custom visualizations. A beta > > version of the software is now available." > > > > And, from the overview: > > > > "Tioga DataSplash (formerly known as Tioga-2) allows users to > > interactively create and browse visualizations of database tables. > > DataSplash was developed by members of the Tioga Project at the University > > of California at Berkeley. DataSplash software is available on Alpha/OSF, > > HP/UX, Intel/Linux, and Sparc /Solaris platforms. We are porting to other > > UNIX platforms as well." > > > > The "Quick Tour" looks really cool, but I'm not sure how tied into > > the whole backend/tioga directory this whole thing is. My first feel is > > that 'tioga datasplash' is a userland application, but someone else might > > be able to make a better determination? > > > > Check out this, which explains what 'Splashes' are ... it almost > > gives me the feel of Visual Statistical Modeling ... ? > > > > http://datasplash.cs.berkeley.edu/splashes.html > > > > If it isn't breaking anything, please leave it in there, as I'd > > like to look into this a bit further ... > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue > + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org -
Re: TIOGA
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2000-10-11T18:40:47Z
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Considering no one has used it in 4 years that I remember, my guess is > > that it is an abandonded Berkeley project. > > If it does not break anything in our build process, please let it in there > while I do further research on what it is ... I personally think what I've > seen on the web site so far is interesting and bears further investigation > before we just yank it out ... Agreed. It looked quite nifty. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: TIOGA
Matthew N. Dodd <winter@jurai.net> — 2000-10-12T06:53:10Z
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Considering no one has used it in 4 years that I remember, my guess is > that it is an abandonded Berkeley project. It appeard to work the last time I tried it (2 years ago or so.) -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever |
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Re: TIOGA
Ross Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu> — 2000-10-13T19:11:19Z
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:40:47PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Considering no one has used it in 4 years that I remember, my guess is > > > that it is an abandonded Berkeley project. > > > > If it does not break anything in our build process, please let it in there > > while I do further research on what it is ... I personally think what I've > > seen on the web site so far is interesting and bears further investigation > > before we just yank it out ... > > Agreed. It looked quite nifty. > White papers refering to Tioga, stretching back to '92 (latest from '96) can be found at: http://s2k-ftp.cs.berkeley.edu:8000/postgres/papers/ Ross -- Open source code is like a natural resource, it's the result of providing food and sunshine to programmers, and then staying out of their way. [...] [It] is not going away because it has utility for both the developers and users independent of economic motivations. Jim Flynn, Sunnyvale, Calif.