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  1. cvsup trouble

    Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> — 2001-09-20T20:15:26Z

    I'm trying to update my cvs tree and am currently seeing the following:
    
    Parsing supfile "postgres.cvsup"
    Connecting to cvsup.postgresql.org
    Cannot connect to cvsup.postgresql.org: Connection refused
    Will retry at 20:15:50
    
    Is this expected? Should cvsup.postgresql.org be answering connection
    requests yet? My previous connections had been through postgresql.org
    (and working for the last few years ;) but currently show
    
    myst$ ./repsync
    Parsing supfile "postgres.cvsup"
    Connecting to postgresql.org
    Connected to postgresql.org
    Server software version: REL_16_1
    Negotiating file attribute support
    Exchanging collection information
    Server message: Collection "pgsql" release "cvs" is not available here
    Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
    Running
    Skipping collection pgsql/cvs
    Shutting down connection to server
    Finished successfully
    
    So two problems on this one (which might be moot if the new machine
    should be doing this instead): the CVSup version is wrong and the
    cvs-pulling configuration no longer exists.
    
                             - Thomas
    
    
  2. Re: cvsup trouble

    Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 2001-09-21T12:08:32Z

    
    Okay, that is fixed ... for some reason, it didn't restart on last reboot,
    have to watch that one ...
    
    
    
    On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    
    > I'm trying to update my cvs tree and am currently seeing the following:
    >
    > Parsing supfile "postgres.cvsup"
    > Connecting to cvsup.postgresql.org
    > Cannot connect to cvsup.postgresql.org: Connection refused
    > Will retry at 20:15:50
    >
    > Is this expected? Should cvsup.postgresql.org be answering connection
    > requests yet? My previous connections had been through postgresql.org
    > (and working for the last few years ;) but currently show
    >
    > myst$ ./repsync
    > Parsing supfile "postgres.cvsup"
    > Connecting to postgresql.org
    > Connected to postgresql.org
    > Server software version: REL_16_1
    > Negotiating file attribute support
    > Exchanging collection information
    > Server message: Collection "pgsql" release "cvs" is not available here
    > Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
    > Running
    > Skipping collection pgsql/cvs
    > Shutting down connection to server
    > Finished successfully
    >
    > So two problems on this one (which might be moot if the new machine
    > should be doing this instead): the CVSup version is wrong and the
    > cvs-pulling configuration no longer exists.
    >
    >                          - Thomas
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  3. Re: cvsup trouble

    Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> — 2001-09-21T13:26:36Z

    > Okay, that is fixed ... for some reason, it didn't restart on last reboot,
    > have to watch that one ...
    
    Thanks for fixing it. Now of course the machine does not seem to be
    visible. That was the case yesterday too; are these planned outages, is
    it still bouncing up and down as it is configured, or is it flakey? I
    can see postgresql.org pretty consistantly, but cvsup.postgresql.org is
    not visible at the same time.
    
                             - Thomas
    
    
  4. Re: cvsup trouble

    Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 2001-09-21T14:21:55Z

    just checked, and the machine has been up 14days now ... I can ssh into it
    from cvs.postgresql.org, and the last cvsup connection was about 5 minutes
    ago:
    
    Sep 21 09:10:42 server1 cvsupd[50149]: +3 otto@host115.olabinc.com (fs1.olabinc.com) [SNAP_16_1e/16.1]
    Sep 21 09:11:53 server1 cvsupd[50149]: -3 [165Kin+275Kout] Finished successfully
    
    nslookup for it should return:
    
    Name:    rs.postgresql.org
    Address:  64.39.15.238
    Aliases:  cvsup.postgresql.org
    
    On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    
    > > Okay, that is fixed ... for some reason, it didn't restart on last reboot,
    > > have to watch that one ...
    >
    > Thanks for fixing it. Now of course the machine does not seem to be
    > visible. That was the case yesterday too; are these planned outages, is
    > it still bouncing up and down as it is configured, or is it flakey? I
    > can see postgresql.org pretty consistantly, but cvsup.postgresql.org is
    > not visible at the same time.
    >
    >                          - Thomas
    >
    
    
    
  5. Re: cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

    Otto Hirr <otto.hirr@olabinc.com> — 2001-09-21T14:23:09Z

    Two points
    
    1) I think that the problem with restarting at boot has occurred before.
    2) I just sync'ed via cvsup at cvsup.postgresql.org and it deleted all
       under pgsql/src/interfaces/odbc/*.  It also does not seem to appear
       anywhere else.  What's up?
    
    This is my client version:
    (193)-> cvsup -v
    CVSup client, GUI version
    Copyright 1996-2001 John D. Polstra
    Software version: SNAP_16_1e
    Protocol version: 17.0
    Operating system: FreeBSD4
    http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/
    Report problems to cvsup-bugs@polstra.com
    
    This is the start of the output of the session:
    (195)-> head -20 !$
    head -20 20010921.out
    Parsing supfile "cvsup_config"
    Connecting to cvsup.postgresql.org
    Connected to cvsup.postgresql.org
    Server software version: REL_16_1p3
    Falling back to protocol version 16.1
    Negotiating file attribute support
    Exchanging collection information
    Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
    Running
    Updating collection pgsql/cvs
    
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
    > [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org]On Behalf Of 
    > Thomas Lockhart
    > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 6:27 AM
    > To: Marc G. Fournier
    > Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
    > Subject: Re: cvsup trouble
    > 
    > 
    > > Okay, that is fixed ... for some reason, it didn't restart 
    > on last reboot,
    > > have to watch that one ...
    > 
    > Thanks for fixing it. Now of course the machine does not seem to be
    > visible. That was the case yesterday too; are these planned 
    > outages, is
    > it still bouncing up and down as it is configured, or is it flakey? I
    > can see postgresql.org pretty consistantly, but 
    > cvsup.postgresql.org is
    > not visible at the same time.
    > 
    >                          - Thomas
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  6. Re: cvsup trouble

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2001-09-21T14:41:34Z

    Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> writes:
    > Thanks for fixing it. Now of course the machine does not seem to be
    > visible. That was the case yesterday too; are these planned outages, is
    > it still bouncing up and down as it is configured, or is it flakey?
    
    Looks fine from here:
    
    $ ping cvsup.postgresql.org
    PING rs.postgresql.org: 64 byte packets
    64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=0. time=57. ms
    64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=1. time=70. ms
    
    Perhaps there is a routing problem somewhere between you and 64.39.15.238?
    That machine is not physically at hub (looks like it's a Rackspace site)
    so there might be connectivity issues that are different from hub's.
    What do you get from tracerouting to cvsup.postgresql.org?
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  7. Re: cvsup trouble

    Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> — 2001-09-21T15:49:03Z

    > $ ping cvsup.postgresql.org
    > PING rs.postgresql.org: 64 byte packets
    > 64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=0. time=57. ms
    > 64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=1. time=70. ms
    > Perhaps there is a routing problem somewhere between you and 64.39.15.238?
    > That machine is not physically at hub (looks like it's a Rackspace site)
    > so there might be connectivity issues that are different from hub's.
    > What do you get from tracerouting to cvsup.postgresql.org?
    
    *slaps forehead*
    
    I didn't catch on to the different network, and 64.x has always been a
    problem on my firewall/masquerading box since I'm also on a 64.x subnet
    and it keeps wanting to put in default routes for a class A network. So
    it is all a problem on my end.
    
    I had done some testing at another location yesterday, when I was
    finding that cvsup connections were being rejected.
    
    Any hints on how to supress this default route when the network is
    configured?
    
    Sorry Marc for the false alarm (today anyway ;)
    
                            - Thomas
    
    
  8. Re: cvsup trouble

    Alex Pilosov <alex@pilosoft.com> — 2001-09-21T17:10:50Z

    On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    
    > > $ ping cvsup.postgresql.org
    > > PING rs.postgresql.org: 64 byte packets
    > > 64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=0. time=57. ms
    > > 64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=1. time=70. ms
    > > Perhaps there is a routing problem somewhere between you and 64.39.15.238?
    > > That machine is not physically at hub (looks like it's a Rackspace site)
    > > so there might be connectivity issues that are different from hub's.
    > > What do you get from tracerouting to cvsup.postgresql.org?
    > 
    > *slaps forehead*
    > 
    > I didn't catch on to the different network, and 64.x has always been a
    > problem on my firewall/masquerading box since I'm also on a 64.x subnet
    > and it keeps wanting to put in default routes for a class A network. So
    > it is all a problem on my end.
    > 
    > I had done some testing at another location yesterday, when I was
    > finding that cvsup connections were being rejected.
    > 
    > Any hints on how to supress this default route when the network is
    > configured?
    
    Best suggestion: Renumber your internal network into one of private
    networks (10.*, 192.168.*, 172.16.*).
    
    Alternate suggestion: configure correct netmask for your internal network
    (such as, if you choose to be 64.1.1.1 with netmask 255.255.255.0, you
    will only lose connectivity to 64.1.1.*, not entire 64.*)
    
     -alex
    
    
    
  9. Re: cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

    Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> — 2001-09-22T02:14:36Z

    > 2) I just sync'ed via cvsup at cvsup.postgresql.org and it deleted all
    >    under pgsql/src/interfaces/odbc/*.  It also does not seem to appear
    >    anywhere else.  What's up?
    
    I see this too. I blew away my repository and populated it from scratch,
    and still see the problem. In fact, the odbc directory doesn't even
    appear in (my replicated) repository at all, let alone moving to the
    attic.
    
    Marc, can we verify that the ODBC directory actually exists in the
    replicated cvs repository? Can we please get a site map to help us
    navigate around to help diagnose problems?
    
    myst$ cvsup -v
    CVSup client, non-GUI version
    Copyright 1996-2001 John D. Polstra
    Software version: SNAP_16_1d
    Protocol version: 16.1
    Operating system: LINUXLIBC6
    http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/
    Report problems to cvsup-bugs@polstra.com
    
    and the server is running 
    
    Server software version: REL_16_1p3
    
    This does *not* seem to be fresh enough. JDP recommends installing
    REL_16_1e, and REL_16_1d was the first with bug fixes for the time tag
    problem. Not sure what REL_16_1p3 is, but it does not seem to be in the
    same line of fixed code (maybe a preliminary or patch release from
    sometime in the past??).
    
    Marc, help!! Check http://people.freebsd.org/~jdp/s1g/ for details on
    the bug and FreeBSD package files which fix it.
    
                           - Thomas
    
    
  10. Re: cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

    Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 2001-09-22T02:28:25Z

    Fixed ... my exclude file had a rule in it that prevented odbc from being
    rsync'd down ... all should be downloaded now ...
    
    as for a 'sitemap', the server that all of this is on is meant to be
    purelya 'mirror' of the central one on mail.postgresql.org, except there
    are no accounts on the machine for you to go looking around it with ...
    
    as for a sitemap of the central site ... all the web related stuff is in
    /usr/local/www, and cvsroot is /cvsroot ...
    
    
    On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    
    > > 2) I just sync'ed via cvsup at cvsup.postgresql.org and it deleted all
    > >    under pgsql/src/interfaces/odbc/*.  It also does not seem to appear
    > >    anywhere else.  What's up?
    >
    > I see this too. I blew away my repository and populated it from scratch,
    > and still see the problem. In fact, the odbc directory doesn't even
    > appear in (my replicated) repository at all, let alone moving to the
    > attic.
    >
    > Marc, can we verify that the ODBC directory actually exists in the
    > replicated cvs repository? Can we please get a site map to help us
    > navigate around to help diagnose problems?
    >
    > myst$ cvsup -v
    > CVSup client, non-GUI version
    > Copyright 1996-2001 John D. Polstra
    > Software version: SNAP_16_1d
    > Protocol version: 16.1
    > Operating system: LINUXLIBC6
    > http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/
    > Report problems to cvsup-bugs@polstra.com
    >
    > and the server is running
    >
    > Server software version: REL_16_1p3
    >
    > This does *not* seem to be fresh enough. JDP recommends installing
    > REL_16_1e, and REL_16_1d was the first with bug fixes for the time tag
    > problem. Not sure what REL_16_1p3 is, but it does not seem to be in the
    > same line of fixed code (maybe a preliminary or patch release from
    > sometime in the past??).
    >
    > Marc, help!! Check http://people.freebsd.org/~jdp/s1g/ for details on
    > the bug and FreeBSD package files which fix it.
    >
    >                        - Thomas
    >
    
    
    
  11. Re: cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

    Otto Hirr <otto.hirr@olabinc.com> — 2001-09-22T02:39:25Z

    Thanks Marc !
    
    I just cvsup'ed and odbc seems to be all back.
    
    Thanks !
    
    Best regards,
    
    .. Otto
    
    Otto Hirr
    OLAB Inc
    503.617.6595
    otto.hirr@olabinc.com
    
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
    > [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org]On Behalf Of Marc 
    > G. Fournier
    > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:28 PM
    > To: Thomas Lockhart
    > Cc: otto.hirr@olabinc.com; thomas@pgsql.com;
    > pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
    > Subject: Re: cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Fixed ... my exclude file had a rule in it that prevented 
    > odbc from being
    > rsync'd down ... all should be downloaded now ...
    > 
    > as for a 'sitemap', the server that all of this is on is meant to be
    > purelya 'mirror' of the central one on mail.postgresql.org, 
    > except there
    > are no accounts on the machine for you to go looking around 
    > it with ...
    > 
    > as for a sitemap of the central site ... all the web related 
    > stuff is in
    > /usr/local/www, and cvsroot is /cvsroot ...
    > 
    > 
    > On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    > 
    > > > 2) I just sync'ed via cvsup at cvsup.postgresql.org and 
    > it deleted all
    > > >    under pgsql/src/interfaces/odbc/*.  It also does not 
    > seem to appear
    > > >    anywhere else.  What's up?
    > >
    > > I see this too. I blew away my repository and populated it 
    > from scratch,
    > > and still see the problem. In fact, the odbc directory doesn't even
    > > appear in (my replicated) repository at all, let alone moving to the
    > > attic.
    > >
    > > Marc, can we verify that the ODBC directory actually exists in the
    > > replicated cvs repository? Can we please get a site map to help us
    > > navigate around to help diagnose problems?
    > >
    > > myst$ cvsup -v
    > > CVSup client, non-GUI version
    > > Copyright 1996-2001 John D. Polstra
    > > Software version: SNAP_16_1d
    > > Protocol version: 16.1
    > > Operating system: LINUXLIBC6
    > > http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/
    > > Report problems to cvsup-bugs@polstra.com
    > >
    > > and the server is running
    > >
    > > Server software version: REL_16_1p3
    > >
    > > This does *not* seem to be fresh enough. JDP recommends installing
    > > REL_16_1e, and REL_16_1d was the first with bug fixes for 
    > the time tag
    > > problem. Not sure what REL_16_1p3 is, but it does not seem 
    > to be in the
    > > same line of fixed code (maybe a preliminary or patch release from
    > > sometime in the past??).
    > >
    > > Marc, help!! Check http://people.freebsd.org/~jdp/s1g/ for 
    > details on
    > > the bug and FreeBSD package files which fix it.
    > >
    > >                        - Thomas
    > >
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  12. Re: cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

    Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> — 2001-09-22T03:30:25Z

    > Fixed ... my exclude file had a rule in it that prevented odbc from being
    > rsync'd down ... all should be downloaded now ...
    
    Great! Haven't tested it yet, but Otto is happy so I'm sure I'll be
    too...
    
    > > Server software version: REL_16_1p3
    > > This does *not* seem to be fresh enough. JDP recommends installing
    > > REL_16_1e, and REL_16_1d was the first with bug fixes for the time tag
    > > problem. Not sure what REL_16_1p3 is, but it does not seem to be in the
    > > same line of fixed code (maybe a preliminary or patch release from
    > > sometime in the past??).
    
    What about the server versioning issue? I see no mention of
    REL_16_1p<anything> as being safe to use. Please confirm that this is in
    fact the 16_1d or 16_1e release!!
    
                         - Thomas
    
    
  13. Re: cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

    Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 2001-09-22T03:33:03Z

    On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
    
    > > Fixed ... my exclude file had a rule in it that prevented odbc from being
    > > rsync'd down ... all should be downloaded now ...
    >
    > Great! Haven't tested it yet, but Otto is happy so I'm sure I'll be
    > too...
    >
    > > > Server software version: REL_16_1p3
    > > > This does *not* seem to be fresh enough. JDP recommends installing
    > > > REL_16_1e, and REL_16_1d was the first with bug fixes for the time tag
    > > > problem. Not sure what REL_16_1p3 is, but it does not seem to be in the
    > > > same line of fixed code (maybe a preliminary or patch release from
    > > > sometime in the past??).
    >
    > What about the server versioning issue? I see no mention of
    > REL_16_1p<anything> as being safe to use. Please confirm that this is in
    > fact the 16_1d or 16_1e release!!
    
    This is what is/was latest in ports after you mentioned the problem ...
    I'll check ports again over the next day or so to see if John has oploaded
    something even newer ....
    
    
    
    
  14. Re: cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

    Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> — 2001-09-22T05:52:58Z

    > > What about the server versioning issue? I see no mention of
    > > REL_16_1p<anything> as being safe to use. Please confirm that this is in
    > > fact the 16_1d or 16_1e release!!
    > This is what is/was latest in ports after you mentioned the problem ...
    > I'll check ports again over the next day or so to see if John has oploaded
    > something even newer ....
    
    Ack! That's the whole point! This is a critical bug fix for which John
    Polstra has posted the required binaries, including for FreeBSD. If it
    isn't the right version, we get time-corrupted CVS repositories. The URL
    is http://people.freebsd.org/~jdp/s1g/ and for all I know that is the
    only source of packages which contain the fixes. If it isn't the right
    package, it doesn't fix the problem.
    
    I'd really like this so that I can finish the date/time improvements for
    the beta freeze.
    
                         - Thomas
    
    
  15. Re: cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

    Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> — 2001-09-26T06:56:53Z

    > > > Please confirm that this is in
    > > > fact the 16_1d or 16_1e release!!
    
    Thank you thank you thank you!!! I see that 16_1e is now installed on
    the server, and the world is good again.
    
    I'm about done with extensive patches on date/time support, though I
    think I won't be ready to commit them before I leave town for work. I
    *should* be able to commit things remotely, and expect to do so Thursday
    or Friday after merging with the current cvs tree.
    
    Thanks again for updating the server.
    
                       - Thomas
    
    ps. Thank you