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Beta timing
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2001-09-11T02:49:26Z
I have heard from Tom Lane that he will be out of town until Wednesday. As with any volunteer project, we can't hold people to dates and schedules. I know he is not done with everything he wants to do before beta, so we have to decide whether we should push ahead with beta now or wait for him to return. On compromise would be to push ahead with beta now and let Tom slip things in after beta begins. Comments? -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: Beta timing
Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org> — 2001-09-11T03:23:33Z
Hi Bruce, I reckon we should wait until he returns. This way people testing the beta's get to try the new features Tom will add when he gets back, and don't have to wait for the next version of the Beta. i.e. better testing. Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have heard from Tom Lane that he will be out of town until Wednesday. > As with any volunteer project, we can't hold people to dates and > schedules. I know he is not done with everything he wants to do before > beta, so we have to decide whether we should push ahead with beta now or > wait for him to return. On compromise would be to push ahead with beta > now and let Tom slip things in after beta begins. > > Comments? > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue > + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi -
Re: Beta timing
Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> — 2001-09-11T03:43:33Z
I have done ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY at home now, and is currently being testing in the 10 mins a day I have free to code on Postgres. It should only need another bit of testing before it's beta-worthy. Given that adding primary keys is something that cannot be done at all with postgres at the moment, without hacking catalogs - you might want to wait for it... Plus, given the activity on the list at the moment, it seems that there are a fair few bugs left! Chris > I have heard from Tom Lane that he will be out of town until Wednesday. > As with any volunteer project, we can't hold people to dates and > schedules. I know he is not done with everything he wants to do before > beta, so we have to decide whether we should push ahead with beta now or > wait for him to return. On compromise would be to push ahead with beta > now and let Tom slip things in after beta begins. > > Comments? > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue > + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html >
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Re: Beta timing
Tatsuo Ishii <t-ishii@sra.co.jp> — 2001-09-11T03:49:55Z
> I have heard from Tom Lane that he will be out of town until Wednesday. > As with any volunteer project, we can't hold people to dates and > schedules. I know he is not done with everything he wants to do before > beta, so we have to decide whether we should push ahead with beta now or > wait for him to return. On compromise would be to push ahead with beta > now and let Tom slip things in after beta begins. > > Comments? I'm going to commit changes for this: * Reject character sequences those are not valid in their charset So I'll be with the postpone of starting of beta. -- Tatsuo Ishii
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Re: Beta timing
Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 2001-09-11T11:51:02Z
Wait until everyone is ready/finished with their existing projects ... this past week has thrown alot of turmoil into several lives that wasn't entirely unexpected, but sad nonetheless ... Let's do a poll on Friday evening for who has stuff outstanding left, give it until Monday for ppl to pop their heads up, and then try and deal with Monday as a Beta Start ... we aren't in a rush ... On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have heard from Tom Lane that he will be out of town until Wednesday. > As with any volunteer project, we can't hold people to dates and > schedules. I know he is not done with everything he wants to do before > beta, so we have to decide whether we should push ahead with beta now or > wait for him to return. On compromise would be to push ahead with beta > now and let Tom slip things in after beta begins. > > Comments? > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue > + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html >
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Re: Beta timing
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> — 2001-09-11T16:38:11Z
> I have heard from Tom Lane that he will be out of town until Wednesday. You may recall that I also have a substantial amount of work on date/time issues which I would like to get in for beta. That is partway done already, but not finished today. I'm guessing that an additional week (or perhaps more) will be necessary for everyone (and I would certainly like that too). - Thomas -
Re: Beta timing
Alex Pilosov <alex@pilosoft.com> — 2001-09-11T17:50:20Z
(cough) Could someone look at my 'select from cursor foo' patch...? tnx On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Wait until everyone is ready/finished with their existing projects ... > this past week has thrown alot of turmoil into several lives that wasn't > entirely unexpected, but sad nonetheless ... > > Let's do a poll on Friday evening for who has stuff outstanding left, give > it until Monday for ppl to pop their heads up, and then try and deal with > Monday as a Beta Start ... we aren't in a rush ... > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I have heard from Tom Lane that he will be out of town until Wednesday. > > As with any volunteer project, we can't hold people to dates and > > schedules. I know he is not done with everything he wants to do before > > beta, so we have to decide whether we should push ahead with beta now or > > wait for him to return. On compromise would be to push ahead with beta > > now and let Tom slip things in after beta begins. > > > > Comments? > > > > -- > > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 > > + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue > > + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://www.postgresql.org/search.mpl > >
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Re: Beta timing
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2001-09-11T18:53:58Z
> (cough) > > Could someone look at my 'select from cursor foo' patch...? Tom Lane has claimed that, plus the EXPLAIN patch. That's why they are stuck in the patch queue. He has said he will take care of those and I am sure he will. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: Beta timing
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2001-09-11T18:56:45Z
> > Wait until everyone is ready/finished with their existing projects ... > this past week has thrown alot of turmoil into several lives that wasn't > entirely unexpected, but sad nonetheless ... > > Let's do a poll on Friday evening for who has stuff outstanding left, give > it until Monday for ppl to pop their heads up, and then try and deal with > Monday as a Beta Start ... we aren't in a rush ... OK, so we are clear at least until Monday. I will on vacation starting this Sunday until October 16th. I will prepare the HISTORY file before I leave, and will run pgindent/jpgindent after beta starts while I am on vacation. Actually, if we don't do final before October 16, I can do it when I return. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: Beta timing
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2001-09-11T20:04:31Z
> > (cough) > > > > Could someone look at my 'select from cursor foo' patch...? > > Tom Lane has claimed that, plus the EXPLAIN patch. That's why they are > stuck in the patch queue. He has said he will take care of those and I > am sure he will. I should have reported to you that the patch was stuck in the queue waiting his review. Sorry. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: Beta timing
Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 2001-09-11T21:34:43Z
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Wait until everyone is ready/finished with their existing projects ... > > this past week has thrown alot of turmoil into several lives that wasn't > > entirely unexpected, but sad nonetheless ... > > > > Let's do a poll on Friday evening for who has stuff outstanding left, give > > it until Monday for ppl to pop their heads up, and then try and deal with > > Monday as a Beta Start ... we aren't in a rush ... > > OK, so we are clear at least until Monday. I will on vacation starting > this Sunday until October 16th. I will prepare the HISTORY file before > I leave, and will run pgindent/jpgindent after beta starts while I am on > vacation. Actually, if we don't do final before October 16, I can do it > when I return. Figure that we'll be looking at Nov 1st or later for release, so you have loads of time to relax and get back :)
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Re: Beta timing
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> — 2001-09-11T21:36:00Z
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > Wait until everyone is ready/finished with their existing projects ... > > > this past week has thrown alot of turmoil into several lives that wasn't > > > entirely unexpected, but sad nonetheless ... > > > > > > Let's do a poll on Friday evening for who has stuff outstanding left, give > > > it until Monday for ppl to pop their heads up, and then try and deal with > > > Monday as a Beta Start ... we aren't in a rush ... > > > > OK, so we are clear at least until Monday. I will on vacation starting > > this Sunday until October 16th. I will prepare the HISTORY file before > > I leave, and will run pgindent/jpgindent after beta starts while I am on > > vacation. Actually, if we don't do final before October 16, I can do it > > when I return. > > Figure that we'll be looking at Nov 1st or later for release, so you have > loads of time to relax and get back :) That still give us two weeks to test the pgindent, which seems like enough time. I know Tom wants it to be run for this relase, and I know the jdbc folks want it too. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026