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1. Re: Favorite Linux Editor for PostgreSQL Scripts?

   steve_miller@sil.org — 2003-02-06T17:01:35Z

   
   
   On 02/06/2003 10:01:56 AM Mark Thomas wrote:
   
   >I am personally an emacs user, but editors are like
   >religion -- you love what you learn first. :)
   
   Not necessarily, on either score, but I get the idea.  You Emacs users are
   a loyal bunch.  :-)
   
   >If you do choose emacs I'd recommend getting a keyboard that has the CTRL
   >key left of the 'A' instead of in the lower-left corner where it's
   useless.
   >CTRL is commonly used in emacs. Keytronic makes keyboards with the
   >capslock/CTRL swappable.
   
   My CTRL and ALT keys are under my thumbs. Literally. I've learned to
   appreciate them there under the strongest digit of my hands. Seems
   placement there would be essential for Emacs.
   
   >Why choose one over the other? emacs is modeless (meaning what you type is
   >what goes into the doc). It uses meta keys (CTRL, ALT, ESC) to carry out
   >commands. Vi is modal, meaning you are either in edit mode or in command
   >mode. Being an emacs proponent I'll claim emacs is more powerful. :) I
   tend
   >to only have an emacs window open on my desktop and use its directory
   >browsing, shell window, and compilation support for everything.
   
   I wasn't aware of those things. Thanks.
   
   >Vi has the advantage of being everywhere. You may find unix installations
   >without emacs, but I don't think you'll find one without vi. Heavy
   >cut/paste users seem to like vi more than emacs.
   
   Hmmm...I more of a cutter/paster.
   
   Steve Miller
   SIL International
   
   
   
   

2. Re: Favorite Linux Editor for PostgreSQL Scripts?

   ghaverla@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca — 2003-02-06T17:24:32Z

   On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 Steve_Miller@sil.org wrote:
   > On 02/06/2003 10:01:56 AM Mark Thomas wrote:
   > 
   > >I am personally an emacs user, but editors are like
   > >religion -- you love what you learn first. :)
   > 
   > Not necessarily, on either score, but I get the idea.  You Emacs users are
   > a loyal bunch.  :-)
   
   Yes.  In my LUG, we can often get into friendly vi versus emacs
   fights.  Sort of like Tastes Great versus Less Filling from some
   approximation to beer commercial.
   
   > >Why choose one over the other? emacs is modeless (meaning what you type is
   > >what goes into the doc). It uses meta keys (CTRL, ALT, ESC) to carry out
   > >commands. Vi is modal, meaning you are either in edit mode or in command
   > >mode. Being an emacs proponent I'll claim emacs is more powerful. :) I
   > tend
   > >to only have an emacs window open on my desktop and use its directory
   > >browsing, shell window, and compilation support for everything.
   > 
   > I wasn't aware of those things. Thanks.
   
   One thing I had seen written a long time ago, is that people with
   long fingers tended to like emacs, and short fingers for vi.
   Makes as much sense as any rules for picking an editor I guess.
   Certainly if you have short fingers, some of the emacs key
   combinations aren't easy.
   
   *** On another note,
   Someone thought I was making lightly of RSI with my earlier
   note.  I'm not a spring chicken (I'm 42), and a couple of
   my jobs over the years (and education) have involved LOTS of
   programming.  And so far (knock on wood, or head :-), no RSI.
   And I've been involved enough in rehab, that I can read a
   lot of the good medical info.  I have no doubt that people
   who have gotten RSI have a problem to deal with, and I wish
   them luck and fast healing.  I think prevention is a big
   part of avoiding RSI, and a big part of that is fitness.
   As a group, programmers and other people who use keyboards
   a lot are not big on fitness.  Fitness includes aspects of
   strength, endurance and flexibility.  I had mentioned
   things having to do with strength and flexibility in my
   earlier note.
   
   Gord
   -- 
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3. Re: Favorite Linux Editor for PostgreSQL Scripts?

   Rory Campbell-Lange <rory@campbell-lange.net> — 2003-02-06T17:37:12Z

   If you use either emacs or vi/vim, it is useful to know that the psql
   command line has readline support.
   
   So if you have a .inputrc file with the line (in my case)
       "set editing-mode vi"
   You can move up and down between lines, search, yank and paste in the
   ways you can on the command line.
   
   Rory
   
   On 06/02/03, ghaverla@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (ghaverla@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca) wrote:
   > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 Steve_Miller@sil.org wrote:
   > > On 02/06/2003 10:01:56 AM Mark Thomas wrote:
   > > 
   > > >I am personally an emacs user, but editors are like
   > > >religion -- you love what you learn first. :)
   -- 
   Rory Campbell-Lange 
   <rory@campbell-lange.net>
   <www.campbell-lange.net>