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  1. Looking for good reference materials for SQL programming.

    Eric Naujock <naujocke@abacusii.com> — 2001-05-09T11:47:32Z

    I have been playing with postgresql for a while and have a copy of the book Postgresql on order. 
    
    Are there any good reference materials available to teach how to do effective SQL and relational database design. I would prefer something more platform neutral but covers the theroy and concepts of good database design. Does anyone here have any suggestions for such materials?
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    
    
    
  2. Re: Looking for good reference materials for SQL programming.

    Pete Jewell <morph@softhome.net> — 2001-05-09T16:53:35Z

    "Eric Naujock " <naujocke@abacusii.com> writes:
    
    > I have been playing with postgresql for a while and have a copy of the book Postgresql on order. 
    > 
    > Are there any good reference materials available to teach how to do
    > effective SQL and relational database design. I would prefer
    > something more platform neutral but covers the theroy and concepts
    > of good database design. Does anyone here have any suggestions for
    > such materials?
    
    There is a /very/ good book, whose exact name escapes me at the
    moment, but you should be able to find it on Amazon if you perform a
    search for 'SQL' and 'Practical'.
    
    HTH
    
    -- 
    Pete
    
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  3. Re: Looking for good reference materials for SQL programming.

    Philip Hallstrom <philip@adhesivemedia.com> — 2001-05-09T17:14:12Z

    Joe Celko's SQL for Smarties is pretty good.  It's got a lot of the basic
    stuff, but it gets really complicated as well (simulating trees and
    directed graphs, etc... -- which makes org charts easy in SQL).
    
    I think he has some other books as well.  I'm sure there are many
    others as well...
    
    On Wed, 9 May 2001, Eric Naujock  wrote:
    
    > I have been playing with postgresql for a while and have a copy of the book Postgresql on order.
    >
    > Are there any good reference materials available to teach how to do effective SQL and relational database design. I would prefer something more platform neutral but covers the theroy and concepts of good database design. Does anyone here have any suggestions for such materials?
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
    >
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  4. Re: Looking for good reference materials for SQL programming.

    pete@example.compulink.co.uk — 2001-05-09T22:20:51Z

    "Eric Naujock " <naujocke@abacusii.com> writes:
    
    > I have been playing with postgresql for a while and have a copy of the book Postgresql on order. 
    > 
    > Are there any good reference materials available to teach how to do
    > effective SQL and relational database design. I would prefer
    > something more platform neutral but covers the theroy and concepts
    > of good database design. Does anyone here have any suggestions for
    > such materials?
    
    There is a /very/ good book, whose exact name escapes me at the
    moment, but you should be able to find it on Amazon if you perform a
    search for 'SQL' and 'Practical'.
    
    HTH
    
    -- 
    Pete
    
    pete@maverick-dbms.org
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    MaVerick - Open Source MultiValue Database Management System
    Check out the website     ->    http://www.maverick-dbms.org
    
    
  5. psql

    ghaverla@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca — 2001-05-10T16:21:15Z

    Hi!
      I've got a couple of machines here, one running Debian
    stable and the other running Debian unstable.  The one
    running unstable also has Postgresql-7.1.x on it, the
    one running stable has Apache.  Some mod_perl stuff
    I'm installing uses psql at times, can a person safely get
    by using psql from Postgresql-6.5.x (which is all that
    Debian stable has now)?
    
    Thanks,
    Gord
    
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  6. Re: Looking for good reference materials for SQL programming.

    Peter J. Schoenster <peter@schoenster.com> — 2001-05-10T17:23:42Z

    On 9 May 2001, at 23:20, pete@example.compulink.co.uk wrote:
    
    > "Eric Naujock " <naujocke@abacusii.com> writes:
    > 
    > > I have been playing with postgresql for a while and have a copy of
    > > the book Postgresql on order. 
    > > 
    > > Are there any good reference materials available to teach how to do
    > > effective SQL and relational database design. I would prefer
    > > something more platform neutral but covers the theroy and concepts
    > > of good database design. Does anyone here have any suggestions for
    > > such materials?
    
    Someone else wrote:
    > There is a /very/ good book, whose exact name escapes me at the
    > moment, but you should be able to find it on Amazon if you perform a
    > search for 'SQL' and 'Practical'.
    
    That is probably Practical SQL :) ... worth a read but unless I missed 
    something I didn't see where it helped with design (does help with SQL 
    though).
    
    I would recommned Greenspun.  Any of his books plus whatever his 
    websites are now will help:
    
    http://www.arsdigita.com/asj/
    
    http://www.arsdigita.com/asj/data-warehousing
    
    > Data Warehousing for Cavemen, a guide to how large organizations use
    > database management software 
    
    
    > Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing
    
    http://www.arsdigita.com/books/panda/index.html
    
    Peter
    All idioms must be learned.
    Good idioms only need to be learned once. 
    --Alan Cooper
    
    
  7. Re: psql

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2001-05-11T19:12:26Z

    ghaverla@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes:
    >   I've got a couple of machines here, one running Debian
    > stable and the other running Debian unstable.  The one
    > running unstable also has Postgresql-7.1.x on it, the
    > one running stable has Apache.  Some mod_perl stuff
    > I'm installing uses psql at times, can a person safely get
    > by using psql from Postgresql-6.5.x (which is all that
    > Debian stable has now)?
    
    6.5 psql should talk to current servers, but you may find that its
    attempts to query system catalogs (for backslash commands) don't work
    due to using out-of-date queries.  Not sure if you care for this
    application...
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  8. Re: Looking for good reference materials for SQL programming.

    pete@example.compulink.co.uk — 2001-05-11T22:11:01Z

    "Peter J. Schoenster" <peter@schoenster.com> writes:
    
    > Someone else wrote:
    > > There is a /very/ good book, whose exact name escapes me at the
    > > moment, but you should be able to find it on Amazon if you perform a
    > > search for 'SQL' and 'Practical'.
    > 
    > That is probably Practical SQL :) ... worth a read but unless I missed 
    > something I didn't see where it helped with design (does help with SQL 
    > though).
    
    That's the one :-)
    
    I think (the actual book is currently at work) it's the second
    edition.  There appeared to be a couple of chapters near the beginning
    which took someone who had a real world problem, but little knowledge
    of relational database design, through the process of coming up with
    a correctly normalised solution.
    
    -- 
    Pete
    
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