Re: LISTEN/NOTIFY bug: VACUUM sets frozenxid past a xid in async queue
Matheus Alcantara <matheusssilv97@gmail.com>
From: "Matheus Alcantara" <matheusssilv97@gmail.com>
To: "Arseniy Mukhin" <arseniy.mukhin.dev@gmail.com>
Cc: "Masahiko Sawada" <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>, "Rishu Bagga" <rishu.postgres@gmail.com>, "Yura Sokolov" <y.sokolov@postgrespro.ru>, "Daniil Davydov" <3danissimo@gmail.com>, Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de>, "Alexandra Wang" <alexandra.wang.oss@gmail.com>, "PostgreSQL Hackers" <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>, "Tom Lane" <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, "Joel Jacobson" <joel@compiler.org>
Date: 2025-09-19T14:36:43Z
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Clear 'xid' in dummy async notify entries written to fill up pages
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Fix remaining race condition with CLOG truncation and LISTEN/NOTIFY
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Fix bug where we truncated CLOG that was still needed by LISTEN/NOTIFY
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Escalate ERRORs during async notify processing to FATAL
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Limit the size of TID lists during parallel GIN build
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On Fri Sep 19, 2025 at 9:34 AM -03, Arseniy Mukhin wrote: > Hi, > Thanks for taking a look at this! > I like this approach. We got rid of dependency on clog and don't limit > vacuum. Several points about the fix: > > Is it correct to remember and reuse slru slots here? IIUC we can't do > it if we don't hold SLRU bank lock, because by the time we get in > AtAbort_Notify() the queue page could be already evicted. Probably we > need to use SimpleLruReadPage after we acquire the lock in > AtAbort_Notify()? > Yeah, I think it make sense. Maybe we could just store the page number and offset and call SimpleLruReadPage() inside AtAbort_Notify() to get the slotno? > I think adding a boolean 'committed' is a good approach, but what do > you think about setting the queue head back to the position where > aborted transaction notifications start? We can do such a reset in > AtAbort_Notify(). So instead of marking notifications as > 'commited=false' we completely erase them from the queue by moving the > queue head back. From listeners perspective if there is a notification > of completed transaction in the queue - it's always a committed > transaction, so again get rid of TransactionIdDidCommit() call. It > seems like a simpler approach because we don't need to remember all > notifications positions in the queue and don't need the additional > field 'committed'. All we need is to remember the head position before > we write anything to the queue, and reset it back if there is an > abort. IIUC Listeners will never send such erased notifications: > - while the aborted transaction is looking like 'in progress', > listeners can't send its notifications. > - by the time the aborted transaction is completed, the head is > already set back so erased notifications are located after the queue > head and listeners can't read it. > I think that with this approach we may have a scenario where when we enter the AtAbort_Notify() the queue head may not be the notification from the transaction being aborted but it can be a notification from another committed transaction, so resetting the queue head back to the position before the aborted transaction would make us lose the notification from the committed transaction. Is that make sense? What do you think? > I think it's a good test to have. FWIW there is a way to reproduce the > test condition without the injection point. We can use the fact that > serializable conflicts are checked after tx adds notifications to the > queue. Please find the attached patch with the example tap test. Not > sure if using injections points is more preferable? > Great, I think that if we can have a way to reproduce this without an injection point would be better. I dind't look the test yet but I'll try to incorporate this on the next patch version. Thanks! -- Matheus Alcantara