Re: LISTEN/NOTIFY bug: VACUUM sets frozenxid past a xid in async queue
Matheus Alcantara <matheusssilv97@gmail.com>
From: "Matheus Alcantara" <matheusssilv97@gmail.com>
To: "Jacques Combrink" <jacques@quantsolutions.co.za>, "Masahiko Sawada"
<sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Cc: "Daniil Davydov" <3danissimo@gmail.com>, Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de>, "Alexandra Wang" <alexandra.wang.oss@gmail.com>, "PostgreSQL Hackers" <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2025-09-03T20:35:49Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Commits
Same data as JSON:
GET /api/v1/messages/:b64id/commits
the thread's linked commits as JSON, with link sources.
API reference →
-
Clear 'xid' in dummy async notify entries written to fill up pages
- 84f1bf4afa5e 14.21 landed
- 21a9014cf00a 15.16 landed
- 0e8eaa2181d4 16.12 landed
- d80d5f099502 17.8 landed
- 82fa6b78dba1 18.2 landed
- 0bdc777e8007 19 (unreleased) landed
-
Fix remaining race condition with CLOG truncation and LISTEN/NOTIFY
- c2e58c0711fe 14.21 landed
- 0c862646cf2a 15.16 landed
- 44e8c60be66c 16.12 landed
- c2682810ab7d 17.8 landed
- 7b069a1876e4 18.2 landed
- 797e9ea6e54b 19 (unreleased) landed
-
Fix bug where we truncated CLOG that was still needed by LISTEN/NOTIFY
- eba917d360e7 14.21 landed
- 1a469d7b5b7d 15.16 landed
- 053e1868b7ee 16.12 landed
- d02c03ddc5e3 17.8 landed
- 321ec54625fd 18.2 landed
- 8eeb4a0f7c06 19 (unreleased) landed
-
Escalate ERRORs during async notify processing to FATAL
- 7cb05dd2d198 14.21 landed
- b1da37de21d4 15.16 landed
- c1a5bde003b8 16.12 landed
- b821c92920f0 17.8 landed
- aab4a84bb070 18.2 landed
- 1b4699090eaf 19 (unreleased) landed
-
Limit the size of TID lists during parallel GIN build
- c98dffcb7c70 19 (unreleased) cited
Attachments
- v2-0001-Consider-LISTEN-NOTIFY-min-xid-during-VACUUM-FREE.patch (text/plain) patch v2-0001
On Mon Sep 1, 2025 at 11:06 AM -03, Jacques Combrink wrote: > TLDR: > active listener on one database causes notify on another database to get > stuck. > At no point could I get a stuck notify if I don't have a listener on at > least one other database than the one I am notifying on. See the Extra > weirdness section. > At no point do you need to have any other queries running, there is > never an idle in transaction query needed for bad timing with the vacuum. > > I hope I explained everything well enough so that one of you smart > people can find and fix the problem. > The long running transaction steps is just an example that we can lose notifications using the first patch from Daniil that Alex has shared on [1]. The steps that you've shared is just another way to trigger the issue but it's similar to the steps that Alex also shared on [1]. All these different ways to trigger the error face the same underlying problem: If a notification is keep for too long on the queue that vacuum freeze can run and truncate clog files that contains transaction information of this notification the error will happen. The patch that I've attached on [2] aims to fix the issue following the steps that you've shared, but during the tests I've found a stack overflow bug on AsyncQueueIterNextNotification() due to the number of notifications. I'm attaching a new version that fix this bug and I tried to reproduce your steps with this new version and the issue seems to be fixed. Note that notifications that were added without any previous LISTEN will block the xid advance during VACUUM FREEZE until we have a listener on the database that owns these notifications. The XXX comment on vacuum.c is about this problem. [1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAK98qZ3wZLE-RZJN_Y%2BTFjiTRPPFPBwNBpBi5K5CU8hUHkzDpw%40mail.gmail.com [2] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id CAFY6G8cJm73_MM9SuynZUqtqcaTuepUDgDuvS661oLW7U0dgsg%40mail.gmail.com -- Matheus Alcantara