RE: [EXT] Re: DBeaver session populating pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin

Dirschel, Steve <steve.dirschel@thomsonreuters.com>

From: "Dirschel, Steve" <steve.dirschel@thomsonreuters.com>
To: Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>, "pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org" <pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org>
Date: 2023-01-25T22:21:14Z
Lists: pgsql-general
>> When I connect to the database through DBeaver with those 2 default 
>> settings changed and find that session in pg_stat_activity column 
>> xact_start is populated along with backend_xmin.  Those get populated 
>> just by logging in.

>As you found out in the log, the driver runs DbEaver run multiple SQL statements during the "log in".
>And the first query will start a transaction, but as autocommit is disabled, nothing will end that transaction.

Yes, I agree with that.  And if I set autocommit off in psql I see the same where a select will start a transaction.

>> The problem is users will connect using DBeaver and their sessions 
>> will sit idle.

>Idle is not a problem, "idle in transaction" is.

From my perspective "idle in transaction" isn't necessarily a problem (although I don't like seeing sessions sitting like that for a long time).  The problem is when pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin is populated-  that can prevent autovacuum from cleaning up old records.  Again, if I login to psql, set auto commit off and run a select I see pg_stat_activity.xact_start populated but pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin is NOT populated.  So that transaction from psql would not prevent autovacuum from cleaning up.  But when this happens through DBeaver not only is pg_stat_activity.xact_start populated but pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin is also populated.  My main question is what could DBeaver be doing to get pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin populated?  It doesn't happen when running a test in psql.  So at this point I'm unable to duplicate this issue in psql running the same thing I think DBeaver is running.   Maybe if I asked the question a little differently-  in psql if I set autocommit off and run a select what else do I need to run to get pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin populated through that session?  Is there a certain "type" of select I could run to get it populated?  I know if I insert or update or delete a row it will get populated but I also know DBeaver is not executing an insert/update/delete.

>> It executes the exact same commands except when the 2 default DBeaver 
>> settings are changed to show the issue it is issuing a BEGIN and 
>> COMMIT around one block of code and then at another part of code it 
>> issues a BEGIN, runs some queries, and never issues a COMMIT.

>Yes, that's how turning off autocommit works. As soon as a statement is sent through the JDBC driver, the driver will send a BEGIN to start the transaction, but the the application (or the user) is responsible to end it through a COMMIT (or ROLLBACK).

Thanks