Re: Add 64-bit XIDs into PostgreSQL 15
Finnerty, Jim <jfinnert@amazon.com>
From: "Finnerty, Jim" <jfinnert@amazon.com>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>, Maxim Orlov <orlovmg@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2022-01-04T22:22:50Z
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Add SLRU tests for 64-bit page case
- a60b8a58f435 17.0 landed
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Make use FullTransactionId in 2PC filenames
- 5a1dfde8334b 17.0 landed
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Use larger segment file names for pg_notify
- 2cdf131c46e6 17.0 landed
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Index SLRUs by 64-bit integers rather than by 32-bit integers
- 4ed8f0913bfd 17.0 landed
On 1/4/22, 2:35 PM, "Stephen Frost" <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
>>
>> Not saying that I've got any idea how to fix that case offhand, and we
>> don't really support such a thing today as the server would just stop
>> instead, ...
>> Perhaps that's a
>> worthwhile tradeoff for being able to generally avoid having to vacuum
>> and deal with transaction wrap-around, but I have to wonder if there
>> might be a better answer.
>>
For the target use cases that PostgreSQL is designed for, it's a very worthwhile tradeoff in my opinion. Such long-running transactions need to be killed.
Re: -- If after upgrade page has no free space for special data, tuples are
converted to "double xmax" format: xmin became virtual
FrozenTransactionId, xmax occupies the whole 64bit.
Page converted to new format when vacuum frees enough space.
I'm concerned about the maintainability impact of having 2 new on-disk page formats. It's already complex enough with XIDs and multixact-XIDs.
If the lack of space for the two epochs in the special data area is a problem only in an upgrade scenario, why not resolve the problem before completing the upgrade process like a kind of post-process pg_repack operation that converts all "double xmax" pages to the "double-epoch" page format? i.e. maybe the "double xmax" representation is needed as an intermediate representation during upgrade, but after upgrade completes successfully there are no pages with the "double-xmax" representation. This would eliminate a whole class of coding errors and would make the code dealing with 64-bit XIDs simpler and more maintainable.
/Jim