Re: storing an explicit nonce
Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
From: Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Cc: Sasasu <i@sasa.su>,
PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
Date: 2021-09-28T09:30:02Z
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Rethink method for assigning OIDs to the template0 and postgres DBs.
- 2cb1272445d2 15.0 landed
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pg_upgrade: Preserve database OIDs.
- aa01051418f1 15.0 landed
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pg_upgrade: Preserve relfilenodes and tablespace OIDs.
- 9a974cbcba00 15.0 landed
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Fix for new Boolean node
- cf925936ecc0 15.0 cited
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Improve error handling of HMAC computations
- 5513dc6a304d 15.0 cited
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Add macro RelationIsPermanent() to report relation permanence
- 95d77149c535 14.0 landed
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Enhance nbtree index tuple deletion.
- d168b666823b 14.0 cited
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 23:34, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 10:51:42PM +0800, Sasasu wrote: > > Hi, community, > > > > It looks like we are still considering AES-CBC, AES-XTS, and > AES-GCM(-SIV). > > I want to say something that we don't think about. > > > > For AES-CBC, the IV should be not predictable. I think LSN or HASH(LSN, > > block number or something) is predictable. There are many CVE related to > > AES-CBC with a predictable IV. > > The LSN would change every time the page is modified, so while the LSN > could be predicted, it would not be reused. However, there is currently > no work being done on page-level encryption of Postgres. > We are still working on our TDE patch. Right now the focus is on refactoring temporary file access to make the TDE patch itself smaller. Reconsidering encryption mode choices given concerns expressed is next. Currently a viable option seems to be AES-XTS with LSN added into the IV. XTS doesn't have an issue with predictable IV and isn't totally broken in case of IV reuse. -- Ants Aasma Senior Database Engineerwww.cybertec-postgresql.com