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Re: Lets (not) break all the things. Was: [pgsql-advocacy] 9.6 -> 10.0

Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>

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From: Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
To: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>, Oleg Bartunov <obartunov@gmail.com>, Josh berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>, PostgreSQL Hackers Mailing List <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Date: 2016-04-29T18:36:54Z
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On 29 April 2016 at 18:40, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote:

> On 04/29/2016 08:44 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:07:04PM +0300, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
>>
>>> Our roadmap http://www.postgresql.org/developer/roadmap/ is the
>>> problem. We
>>> don't have clear roadmap and that's why we cannot plan future feature
>>> full
>>> release. There are several postgres-centric companies, which have most of
>>> developers, who do all major contributions. All these companies has their
>>> roadmaps, but not the community.
>>>
>>
>> I would be concerned if company roadmaps overtly affected the community
>> roadmap.  In general, I find company roadmaps to be very short-sighted
>> and quickly changed based on the demands of specific users/customers ---
>> something we don't want to imitate.
>>
>> We do want company roadmaps to affect the community roadmap, but in a
>> healthy, long-term way, and I think, in general, that is happening.
>>
>>
> The roadmap is not the problem it is the lack of cooperation. Many
> companies are now developing features in a silo and then presenting them to
> the community. Instead we should be working with those companies to have
> them develop transparently so others can be a part of the process.
>
> If the feature is going to be submitted to core anyway (or open source)
> why wouldn't we just do that? Why wouldn't EDB develop directly within the
> Pg infrastructure. Why wouldn't we build teams around the best and
> brightest between EDB, 2Q and Citus?
>
> Egos.
>
> Consider PgLogical, who is working on this outside of 2Q?


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