Re: Lets (not) break all the things. Was: [pgsql-advocacy] 9.6 -> 10.0

On 12 April 2016 at 20:25, Josh berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:


> Here's the features I can imagine being worth major backwards
> compatibility breaks:
>
> 1. Fully pluggable storage with a clean API.
>
> 2. Total elimination of VACUUM or XID freezing
>
> 3. Fully transparent-to-the user MM replication/clustering or sharding.
>
> 4. Perfect partitioning (i.e. transparent to the user, supports keys &
> joins, supports expressions on partition key, etc.)
>
> 5. Transparent upgrade-in-place (i.e. allowing 10.2 to use 10.1's tables
> without pg_upgrade or other modification).
>
> 6. Fully pluggable parser/executor with a good API
>
> That's pretty much it.  I can't imagine anything else which would
> justify imposing a huge upgrade barrier on users.  And, I'll point out,
> that in the above list:
>
> * nobody is currently working on anything in core except #4.
>
> * we don't *know* that any of the above items will require a backwards
> compatibility break.
>
> People keep talking about "we might want to break compatibility/file
> format one day".  But nobody is working on anything which will and
> justifies it.
>

Of your list, I know 2ndQuadrant developers are working on 1, 3, 5.
6 has being discussed recently on list by other hackers.

I'm not really sure what 2 consists of; presumably this means "take the
pain away" rather than removal of MVCC, which is the root cause of those
secondary effects.

I don't think the current focus on manually intensive DDL partitioning is
the right way forwards. I did once; I don't now.

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