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Ignore nullingrels when looking up statistics
- e28033fe1af8 18.0 landed
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Make Vars be outer-join-aware.
- 2489d76c4906 16.0 cited
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ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2024-12-24T08:00:57Z
I ran into this error in estimate_multivariate_ndistinct, and it can be reproduced with the query below. create table t (a int, b int); insert into t select 1, 1; create statistics s (ndistinct) on a, b from t; analyze; explain select 1 from t t1 left join (select a c1, coalesce(a) c2 from t t2) s on true group by s.c1, s.c2; ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry And the first bad commit is: 2489d76c4906f4461a364ca8ad7e0751ead8aa0d is the first bad commit commit 2489d76c4906f4461a364ca8ad7e0751ead8aa0d Author: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon Jan 30 13:16:20 2023 -0500 Make Vars be outer-join-aware. So in this query, there are two grouping expressions: s.c1 is Var t2.a with nullingrels set to {3}; s.c2 is a PHV with nullingrels also being {3}, and its contained expression is Var t2.a with empty nullingrels. This eventually leads to estimate_num_groups creating two separate GroupVarInfos for Var t2.a: one with nullingrels {3}, and another with empty nullingrels. As a result, estimate_multivariate_ndistinct incorrectly assumes there are two matching expressions. When it later fails to find the exact match for the combination, it mistakenly concludes that there is a corrupt MVNDistinct entry. It seems to me that when estimating the number of groups, we do not need to concern ourselves with the outer joins that could null the Vars/PHVs contained in the grouping expressions, and we should not count the same Var more than once. So I wonder if we can fix this issue by removing the nullingrels within the grouping expressions first in estimate_num_groups. Such as: --- a/src/backend/utils/adt/selfuncs.c +++ b/src/backend/utils/adt/selfuncs.c @@ -121,6 +121,7 @@ #include "parser/parse_clause.h" #include "parser/parse_relation.h" #include "parser/parsetree.h" +#include "rewrite/rewriteManip.h" #include "statistics/statistics.h" #include "storage/bufmgr.h" #include "utils/acl.h" @@ -3446,6 +3447,10 @@ estimate_num_groups(PlannerInfo *root, List *groupExprs, double input_rows, if (groupExprs == NIL || (pgset && *pgset == NIL)) return 1.0; + groupExprs = (List *) remove_nulling_relids((Node *) groupExprs, + root->outer_join_rels, + NULL); + /* * Count groups derived from boolean grouping expressions. For other * expressions, find the unique Vars used, treating an expression as a Var Any thoughts? Thanks Richard -
Re: ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry
Andrei Lepikhov <lepihov@gmail.com> — 2024-12-25T02:33:57Z
On 12/24/24 15:00, Richard Guo wrote: > Any thoughts? I have a couple of notes. 1. The nulling_relids provides us sensible information about possible nulls inside the input. We are not using it to estimate the number of such nulls for now. Does Your idea consist of obtaining 'clear' statistics and reusing nulling_relids knowledge somewhere later? 2. It is ok for Vars. But what about expressions? We use equal() in distinct, MCV and dependencies modules. Do we need to remove nulls before using extended statistics as a general rule? -- regards, Andrei Lepikhov
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Re: ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2024-12-25T07:49:30Z
On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 5:00 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > It seems to me that when estimating the number of groups, we do not > need to concern ourselves with the outer joins that could null the > Vars/PHVs contained in the grouping expressions, and we should not > count the same Var more than once. Furthermore, accounting for nullingrels in the grouping expressions could prevent us from matching a grouping expression to expressional index columns or to the expressions in extended statistics, as these expressions are not decorated with any nullingrels bits. As an example, consider create table t (a int, b int); insert into t select i%10, i%10 from generate_series(1,1000)i; create statistics s (ndistinct) on (a+b), (a-b) from t; analyze; -- after v16 explain (costs on) select count(*) from t t1 left join t t2 on t1.a = t2.a group by t2.a+t2.b; QUERY PLAN -------------------------------------------------------------------------- HashAggregate (cost=1920.00..1921.25 rows=100 width=12) Group Key: (t2.a + t2.b) -> Hash Left Join (cost=27.50..1420.00 rows=100000 width=4) Hash Cond: (t1.a = t2.a) -> Seq Scan on t t1 (cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=4) -> Hash (cost=15.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) -> Seq Scan on t t2 (cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) (7 rows) -- before v16 explain (costs on) select count(*) from t t1 left join t t2 on t1.a = t2.a group by t2.a+t2.b; QUERY PLAN -------------------------------------------------------------------------- HashAggregate (cost=1920.00..1920.12 rows=10 width=12) Group Key: (t2.a + t2.b) -> Hash Left Join (cost=27.50..1420.00 rows=100000 width=4) Hash Cond: (t1.a = t2.a) -> Seq Scan on t t1 (cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=4) -> Hash (cost=15.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) -> Seq Scan on t t2 (cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) (7 rows) Attached is a more formal patch to strip out all the nullingrels from the grouping expressions before we estimate number of groups. Thanks Richard -
Re: ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2024-12-25T08:14:53Z
On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 11:34 AM Andrei Lepikhov <lepihov@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a couple of notes. > 1. The nulling_relids provides us sensible information about possible > nulls inside the input. We are not using it to estimate the number of > such nulls for now. Does Your idea consist of obtaining 'clear' > statistics and reusing nulling_relids knowledge somewhere later? Are you referring to the nullfrac estimates? A RelOptInfo's nulling_relids records all above outer joins that can null this rel. However, I cannot see how it helps with nullfrac. > 2. It is ok for Vars. But what about expressions? We use equal() in > distinct, MCV and dependencies modules. Do we need to remove nulls > before using extended statistics as a general rule? AFAIU, the expressions in extended statistics are not decorated with any nullingrels bits, are they? Thanks Richard
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Re: ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2024-12-25T09:36:54Z
On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 5:14 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 11:34 AM Andrei Lepikhov <lepihov@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2. It is ok for Vars. But what about expressions? We use equal() in > > distinct, MCV and dependencies modules. Do we need to remove nulls > > before using extended statistics as a general rule? > > AFAIU, the expressions in extended statistics are not decorated with > any nullingrels bits, are they? I've just realized that there may be other places with similar issues, not just in estimate_num_groups. For instance, -- after v16 explain (costs on) select * from t t1 left join t t2 on true where (t2.a+t2.b) is null; QUERY PLAN -------------------------------------------------------------------- Nested Loop Left Join (cost=0.00..15032.50 rows=5000 width=16) Filter: ((t2.a + t2.b) IS NULL) -> Seq Scan on t t1 (cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) -> Materialize (cost=0.00..20.00 rows=1000 width=8) -> Seq Scan on t t2 (cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) (5 rows) -- before v16 explain (costs on) select * from t t1 left join t t2 on true where (t2.a+t2.b) is null; QUERY PLAN -------------------------------------------------------------------- Nested Loop Left Join (cost=0.00..15032.50 rows=1 width=16) Filter: ((t2.a + t2.b) IS NULL) -> Seq Scan on t t1 (cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) -> Materialize (cost=0.00..20.00 rows=1000 width=8) -> Seq Scan on t t2 (cost=0.00..15.00 rows=1000 width=8) (5 rows) In v16 and later, the nullingrels within the expression "t2.a + t2.b" prevent it from being matched to the corresponding expression in extended statistics, forcing us to use DEFAULT_UNK_SEL(0.005). It seems that we need to strip out the nullingrels bits from expressions before matching them to extended statistics or expressional index columns in more places. Thanks Richard -
Re: ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry
Andrei Lepikhov <lepihov@gmail.com> — 2024-12-25T16:14:56Z
On 25/12/2024 16:36, Richard Guo wrote: > On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 5:14 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 11:34 AM Andrei Lepikhov <lepihov@gmail.com> wrote: >>> 2. It is ok for Vars. But what about expressions? We use equal() in >>> distinct, MCV and dependencies modules. Do we need to remove nulls >>> before using extended statistics as a general rule? >> >> AFAIU, the expressions in extended statistics are not decorated with >> any nullingrels bits, are they? > > I've just realized that there may be other places with similar issues, > not just in estimate_num_groups. For instance, I'm pleased to see that you've grasped my initially unclear idea. Yeah, it seems that all types of statistics may be lost because of varnullingrels. > In v16 and later, the nullingrels within the expression "t2.a + t2.b" > prevent it from being matched to the corresponding expression in > extended statistics, forcing us to use DEFAULT_UNK_SEL(0.005). > > It seems that we need to strip out the nullingrels bits from > expressions before matching them to extended statistics or > expressional index columns in more places. I think Tomas Vondra may have a decisive opinion in this place: we have already discussed some approaches to calculate NULLs generated by RHS of Left Join shortly. Maybe we can commit a quick cure like the one provided in your patch, but we should remember this example - it is not apparent to me how to estimate a group of clauses in the case when part of Vars has varnullingrels and part of them - doesn't. Also, I think this is a good example that an explain analyse summary could have some sort of extended statistics usage report. It can help to clearly identify cases when extended statistics don't work, but should. - something like already implemented in SQL Server. -- regards, Andrei Lepikhov
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Re: ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2024-12-27T04:16:07Z
On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 6:36 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > In v16 and later, the nullingrels within the expression "t2.a + t2.b" > prevent it from being matched to the corresponding expression in > extended statistics, forcing us to use DEFAULT_UNK_SEL(0.005). Furthermore, even without extended statistics or expressional index columns, the nullingrels can still cause issues with selectivity estimates. They may cause examine_variable to fail in identifying a valid RelOptInfo for an expression, making the relation size not available, which is required in many cases. For instance, create table t (a int, b int); insert into t select i, i from generate_series(1,10)i; analyze t; -- in v16 and later explain (costs on) select * from t t1 left join t t2 on true left join t t3 on t1.a = t3.a and t3.a < 8 where t1.a = coalesce(t2.a); QUERY PLAN ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Nested Loop Left Join (cost=0.00..4.94 rows=1 width=24) Join Filter: (t1.a = t3.a) -> Nested Loop Left Join (cost=0.00..3.73 rows=1 width=16) Filter: (t1.a = COALESCE(t2.a)) -> Seq Scan on t t1 (cost=0.00..1.10 rows=10 width=8) -> Materialize (cost=0.00..1.15 rows=10 width=8) -> Seq Scan on t t2 (cost=0.00..1.10 rows=10 width=8) -> Seq Scan on t t3 (cost=0.00..1.12 rows=7 width=8) Filter: (a < 8) (9 rows) -- in v15 and before explain (costs on) select * from t t1 left join t t2 on true left join t t3 on t1.a = t3.a and t3.a < 8 where t1.a = coalesce(t2.a); QUERY PLAN ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hash Left Join (cost=1.21..5.04 rows=10 width=24) Hash Cond: (t1.a = t3.a) -> Nested Loop Left Join (cost=0.00..3.73 rows=10 width=16) Filter: (t1.a = COALESCE(t2.a)) -> Seq Scan on t t1 (cost=0.00..1.10 rows=10 width=8) -> Materialize (cost=0.00..1.15 rows=10 width=8) -> Seq Scan on t t2 (cost=0.00..1.10 rows=10 width=8) -> Hash (cost=1.12..1.12 rows=7 width=8) -> Seq Scan on t t3 (cost=0.00..1.12 rows=7 width=8) Filter: (a < 8) (10 rows) In v16 and later, when calculating the join selectivity for "t1.a = coalesce(t2.a)", eqjoinsel sets nd2 — the number of distinct values of coalesce(t2.a) — to DEFAULT_NUM_DISTINCT (200) because the corresponding RelOptInfo is not identifiable. This results in very inaccurate join selectivity. I'm wondering if we also need to strip out the nullingrels from the expression in examine_variable(). I tried doing so and noticed a plan diff in regression test join.sql. @@ -2573,10 +2573,11 @@ -> Materialize -> Seq Scan on int4_tbl t2 Filter: (f1 > 1) - -> Seq Scan on int4_tbl t3 + -> Materialize + -> Seq Scan on int4_tbl t3 -> Materialize -> Seq Scan on int4_tbl t4 -(13 rows) +(14 rows) Thanks Richard -
Re: ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2024-12-31T08:40:54Z
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 1:16 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm wondering if we also need to strip out the nullingrels from the > expression in examine_variable(). I tried doing so and noticed a plan > diff in regression test join.sql. Here is an updated patch that implements this change, and also moves the removal of the nullingrels within grouping expressions from estimate_num_groups to add_unique_group_var. I'm not quite sure how this change affects the exprs_known_equal call in add_unique_group_var, possibly making it even less precise (it is alreay somewhat fuzzy, as we do not provide a valid opfamily). However, I think it should be fine for estimation purposes. Moreover, in many cases, such as with groupClause, distinctClause, and WindowClause's PARTITION BY clauses, we have already removed any items that can be proven redundant. Regarding the back-patch, this patch is a bug fix, which suggests it should be back-patched. However, it also changes some plans by fixing the cost estimation. Does anyone know what our usual approach is in this situation? Thanks Richard
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Re: ERROR: corrupt MVNDistinct entry
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2025-01-02T09:30:04Z
On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 5:40 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > Regarding the back-patch, this patch is a bug fix, which suggests it > should be back-patched. However, it also changes some plans by fixing > the cost estimation. Does anyone know what our usual approach is in > this situation? Although this patch could result in plan changes, it fixes an actual bug, so I've back-patched it to v16. Thanks Richard