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Fix incorrect is-this-the-topmost-join tests in parallel planning.
- d8e34fa7a18f 16.0 landed
- a3699c599ced 15.0 landed
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Postpone generate_gather_paths for topmost scan/join rel.
- 3f90ec8597c3 11.0 cited
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Problem about postponing gathering partial paths for topmost scan/join rel
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2021-07-28T07:42:15Z
Hi all, In commit 3f90ec85 we are trying to postpone gathering partial paths for topmost scan/join rel until we know the final targetlist, in order to allow more accurate costing of parallel paths. We do this by the following code snippet in standard_join_search: + /* + * Except for the topmost scan/join rel, consider gathering + * partial paths. We'll do the same for the topmost scan/join rel + * once we know the final targetlist (see grouping_planner). + */ + if (lev < levels_needed) + generate_gather_paths(root, rel, false); This change may cause a problem if the joinlist contains sub-joinlist nodes, in which case 'lev == levels_needed' does not necessarily imply it's the topmost for the final scan/join rel. It may only be the topmost scan/join rel for the subproblem. And then we would miss the Gather paths for this subproblem. It can be illustrated with the query below: create table foo(i int, j int); insert into foo select i, i from generate_series(1,50000)i; analyze foo; set max_parallel_workers_per_gather to 4; set parallel_setup_cost to 0; set parallel_tuple_cost to 0; set min_parallel_table_scan_size to 0; # explain (costs off) select * from foo a join foo b on a.i = b.i full join foo c on b.i = c.i; QUERY PLAN ---------------------------------------------------- Hash Full Join Hash Cond: (b.i = c.i) -> Hash Join Hash Cond: (a.i = b.i) -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo a -> Hash -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo b -> Hash -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo c (15 rows) Please note how we do the join for rel a and b. We run Gather above the parallel scan and then do the join above the Gather. These two base rels are grouped in a subproblem because of the FULL JOIN. And due to the mentioned code change, we are unable to gather partial paths for their joinrel. If we can somehow fix this problem, then we would be able to do better planning by running parallel join first and then doing Gather above the join. -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Hash Join Hash Cond: (a.i = b.i) -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo a -> Parallel Hash -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo b To fix this problem, I'm thinking we can leverage 'root->all_baserels' to tell if we are at the topmost scan/join rel, something like: --- a/src/backend/optimizer/path/allpaths.c +++ b/src/backend/optimizer/path/allpaths.c @@ -3041,7 +3041,7 @@ standard_join_search(PlannerInfo *root, int levels_needed, List *initial_rels) * partial paths. We'll do the same for the topmost scan/join rel * once we know the final targetlist (see grouping_planner). */ - if (lev < levels_needed) + if (!bms_equal(rel->relids, root->all_baserels)) generate_useful_gather_paths(root, rel, false); Any thoughts? Thanks Richard -
Re: Problem about postponing gathering partial paths for topmost scan/join rel
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2021-07-30T07:14:45Z
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 3:42 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > To fix this problem, I'm thinking we can leverage 'root->all_baserels' > to tell if we are at the topmost scan/join rel, something like: > > --- a/src/backend/optimizer/path/allpaths.c > +++ b/src/backend/optimizer/path/allpaths.c > @@ -3041,7 +3041,7 @@ standard_join_search(PlannerInfo *root, int > levels_needed, List *initial_rels) > * partial paths. We'll do the same for the > topmost scan/join rel > * once we know the final targetlist (see > grouping_planner). > */ > - if (lev < levels_needed) > + if (!bms_equal(rel->relids, root->all_baserels)) > generate_useful_gather_paths(root, rel, > false); > > > Any thoughts? > Attach a patch to include the fix described upthread. Would appreciate any comments on this topic. Thanks Richard
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Re: Problem about postponing gathering partial paths for topmost scan/join rel
Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at> — 2022-07-14T14:02:58Z
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 3:42 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > > To fix this problem, I'm thinking we can leverage 'root->all_baserels' > to tell if we are at the topmost scan/join rel, something like: > > --- a/src/backend/optimizer/path/allpaths.c > +++ b/src/backend/optimizer/path/allpaths.c > @@ -3041,7 +3041,7 @@ standard_join_search(PlannerInfo *root, int levels_needed, List *initial_rels) > * partial paths. We'll do the same for the topmost scan/join rel > * once we know the final targetlist (see grouping_planner). > */ > - if (lev < levels_needed) > + if (!bms_equal(rel->relids, root->all_baserels)) > generate_useful_gather_paths(root, rel, false); > > Any thoughts? > > Attach a patch to include the fix described upthread. Would appreciate > any comments on this topic. I think I understand the idea but I'm not sure about the regression test. I suspect that in the plan EXPLAIN (COSTS OFF) SELECT count(*) FROM tenk1 a JOIN tenk1 b ON a.two =3D b.two FULL JOIN tenk1 c ON b.two =3D c.two; QUERY PLAN ------------------------------------------------------------ Aggregate -> Hash Full Join Hash Cond: (b.two =3D c.two) -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Hash Join Hash Cond: (a.two =3D b.two) -> Parallel Seq Scan on tenk1 a -> Parallel Hash -> Parallel Seq Scan on tenk1 b -> Hash -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Seq Scan on tenk1 c the Gather node is located below the "Hash Full Join" node only because that kind of join currently cannot be executed by parallel workers. If the parallel "Hash Full Join" gets implemented (I've noticed but not checked in detail [1]), it might break this test. I'd prefer a test that demonstrates that the Gather node at the top of the "subproblem plan" is useful purely from the *cost* perspective, rather than due to executor limitation. [1] https://commitfest.postgresql.org/38/2903/ -- Antonin Houska Web: https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com -
Re: Problem about postponing gathering partial paths for topmost scan/join rel
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2022-07-15T08:03:56Z
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at> wrote: > I'd prefer a test that demonstrates that the Gather node at the top of the > "subproblem plan" is useful purely from the *cost* perspective, rather than > due to executor limitation. This patch provides an additional path (Gather atop of subproblem) which was not available before. But your concern makes sense that we need to show this new path is valuable from competing on cost with other paths. How about we change to Nested Loop at the topmost? Something like: set join_collapse_limit to 2; # explain (costs off) select * from foo a join foo b on a.i = b.i join foo c on b.i > c.i; QUERY PLAN ---------------------------------------------------- Nested Loop Join Filter: (b.i > c.i) -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Hash Join Hash Cond: (a.i = b.i) -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo a -> Parallel Hash -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo b -> Materialize -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo c (13 rows) Without the patch, the path which is Gather atop of subproblem is not available, and we would get: # explain (costs off) select * from foo a join foo b on a.i = b.i join foo c on b.i > c.i; QUERY PLAN ---------------------------------------------------- Nested Loop Join Filter: (b.i > c.i) -> Hash Join Hash Cond: (a.i = b.i) -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo a -> Hash -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo b -> Materialize -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Seq Scan on foo c (15 rows) Thanks Richard -
Re: Problem about postponing gathering partial paths for topmost scan/join rel
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2022-07-15T09:00:13Z
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 4:03 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at> wrote: > >> I'd prefer a test that demonstrates that the Gather node at the top of the >> "subproblem plan" is useful purely from the *cost* perspective, rather >> than >> due to executor limitation. > > > This patch provides an additional path (Gather atop of subproblem) which > was not available before. But your concern makes sense that we need to > show this new path is valuable from competing on cost with other paths. > > How about we change to Nested Loop at the topmost? Something like: > Maybe a better example is that we use a small table 'c' to avoid the Gather node above scanning 'c', so that the path of parallel nestloop is possible to be generated. set join_collapse_limit to 2; # explain (costs off) select * from a join b on a.i = b.i join c on b.i > c.i; QUERY PLAN ------------------------------------------------ Nested Loop Join Filter: (b.i > c.i) -> Seq Scan on c -> Gather Workers Planned: 4 -> Parallel Hash Join Hash Cond: (a.i = b.i) -> Parallel Seq Scan on a -> Parallel Hash -> Parallel Seq Scan on b (10 rows) Thanks Richard -
Re: Problem about postponing gathering partial paths for topmost scan/join rel
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> — 2022-07-18T07:13:05Z
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 5:00 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 4:03 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at> wrote: >> >>> I'd prefer a test that demonstrates that the Gather node at the top of >>> the >>> "subproblem plan" is useful purely from the *cost* perspective, rather >>> than >>> due to executor limitation. >> >> >> This patch provides an additional path (Gather atop of subproblem) which >> was not available before. But your concern makes sense that we need to >> show this new path is valuable from competing on cost with other paths. >> >> How about we change to Nested Loop at the topmost? Something like: >> > > Maybe a better example is that we use a small table 'c' to avoid the > Gather node above scanning 'c', so that the path of parallel nestloop is > possible to be generated. > Update the patch with the new test case. Thanks Richard
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Re: Problem about postponing gathering partial paths for topmost scan/join rel
Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at> — 2022-07-18T12:36:21Z
Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 5:00 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 4:03 PM Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at> wrote: > > I'd prefer a test that demonstrates that the Gather node at the top of the > "subproblem plan" is useful purely from the *cost* perspective, rather than > due to executor limitation. > > This patch provides an additional path (Gather atop of subproblem) which > was not available before. But your concern makes sense that we need to > show this new path is valuable from competing on cost with other paths. > > How about we change to Nested Loop at the topmost? Something like: > > Maybe a better example is that we use a small table 'c' to avoid the > Gather node above scanning 'c', so that the path of parallel nestloop is > possible to be generated. > > Update the patch with the new test case. ok, this makes sense to me. Just one minor suggestion: the command alter table d_star reset (parallel_workers); is not necessary because it's immediately followed by rollback; I'm going to set the CF entry to "ready for committer'". -- Antonin Houska Web: https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com
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Re: Problem about postponing gathering partial paths for topmost scan/join rel
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2022-07-30T17:15:04Z
Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at> writes: > I'm going to set the CF entry to "ready for committer'". I pushed this with some editorialization: * Grepping found another caller of generate_useful_gather_paths with the exact same bug, in geqo_eval.c. (A wise man once said that the most powerful bug-finding heuristic he knew was "where else did we make this same mistake?") * I thought it best to make set_rel_pathlist() use an identically- worded test for the equivalent purpose for baserels. It's not actively broken, but examining bms_membership seems confusingly complicated, and I doubt it's faster than bms_equal either. * I omitted the test case because I didn't think it would buy us anything. It failed to detect the GEQO variant of the bug, and it would fail to detect the most likely future way of breaking this, which is that I forget to change these instances of all_baserels next time I rebase [1]. regards, tom lane [1] https://commitfest.postgresql.org/39/3755/