Re: using index or check in ALTER TABLE SET NOT NULL
David Rowley <david.rowley@2ndquadrant.com>
From: David Rowley <david.rowley@2ndquadrant.com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org>, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>,
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>, Ildar Musin <i.musin@postgrespro.ru>
Date: 2019-03-17T11:40:52Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 06:24, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 1:09 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > > Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org> writes: > > >> Ugh, I guess so. Or how about changing the message itself to use > > >> INFO, like we already do in QueuePartitionConstraintValidation? > > > > > Fine for me. But year ago this was implemented in my patch and Tom voted against using INFO level for such purpose: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/1142.1520362313%40sss.pgh.pa.us > > > > What I thought then was that you didn't need the message at all, > > at any debug level. I still think that. It might have been useful > > for development purposes but it does not belong in committed code. > > INFO (making it impossible for anybody to not have the message > > in-their-face) is right out. > > I find that position entirely wrong-headed. If you think users have > no interest in a message telling them whether their gigantic table is > getting scanned or not, you're wrong. Maybe you're right that > everyone doesn't want it, but I'm positive some do. We've had > requests for very similar things on this very mailing list more than > one. If we don't have this for SET NOT NULL then we should either add it or remove the one from ATTACH PARTITION. I don't think we need to decide which it is now, so I've added an item to the open items list that this is out for debate. https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_12_Open_Items#Open_Issues I think we can mark this patch as committed now as I don't think the lack of a way to test it is likely to cause it to be reverted. -- David Rowley http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
Commits
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Avoid using INFO elevel for what are fundamentally debug messages.
- db438318997b 13.0 landed
- 121e3ceed6d9 12.0 landed
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Revert setting client_min_messages to 'debug1' in new tests.
- 5655565c077c 12.0 landed
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Allow ALTER TABLE .. SET NOT NULL to skip provably unnecessary scans.
- bbb96c3704c0 12.0 landed
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Improve predtest.c's internal docs, and enhance its functionality a bit.
- 5748f3a0aa7c 11.0 cited