Re: Option to not use ringbuffer in VACUUM, using it in failsafe mode
David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
From: "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
To: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>,
pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>,
Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Date: 2023-01-12T00:26:19Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:39 PM Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote: > Hi, > > On 2023-01-11 16:18:34 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie> writes: > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 11:18 AM Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> > wrote: > > >> I don't like that - it's also quite useful to disable use of > ringbuffers when > > >> you actually need to clean up indexes. Especially when we have a lot > of dead > > >> tuples we'll rescan indexes over and over... > > > > > That's a fair point. > > > > > My vote goes to "REUSE_BUFFERS", then. > > > > I wonder whether it could make sense to allow a larger ringbuffer size, > > rather than just the limit cases of "on" and "off". > > I can see that making sense, particularly if we were to later extend this > to > other users of ringbuffers. E.g. COPYs us of the ringbuffer makes loading > of > data > 16MB but also << s_b vastly slower, but it can still be very > important > to use if there's lots of parallel processes loading data. > > Should we just add "ring_buffers" to the existing "shared_buffers" and "temp_buffers" settings? Then give VACUUM a (BUFFER_POOL=ring*|shared) option? I think making DBAs aware of this dynamic and making the ring buffer usage user-facing is beneficial in its own right (at least, the concept that changes done by vacuum don't impact shared_buffers, regardless of how that non-impact manifests). But I don't see much benefit trying to come up with a different name. David J.
Commits
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Add unit to vacuum_buffer_usage_limit value in postgresql.conf.sample.
- b72f564d87d1 16.0 landed
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Improve VACUUM/ANALYZE BUFFER_USAGE_LIMIT docs
- c0235013c13b 16.0 landed
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Add --buffer-usage-limit option to vacuumdb
- ae78cae3be62 16.0 landed
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Add VACUUM/ANALYZE BUFFER_USAGE_LIMIT option
- 1cbbee033857 16.0 landed
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Move various prechecks from vacuum() into ExecVacuum()
- b9b125b9c143 16.0 landed
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Always make a BufferAccessStrategy for ANALYZE
- bccd6908ca82 16.0 landed
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Rename BufferAccessStrategyData.ring_size to nbuffers
- 8d928e3a9fe7 16.0 landed
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Disable vacuum's use of a buffer access strategy during failsafe
- 4830f1024325 16.0 landed
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Only make buffer strategy for vacuum when it's likely needed
- 32fbe0239b03 16.0 landed
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Remove some global variables from vacuum.c
- 3f476c953495 16.0 landed
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Doc: add Buffer Access Strategy to the glossary
- c8f8d0eb1868 16.0 landed