Re: Powerfailure caused a reduction in INSERT performance of version 12 database.
Steve Midgley <science@misuse.org>
From: Steve Midgley <science@misuse.org>
To: Frank Komsic <komsicf@shoeicanada.com>
Cc: pgsql-sql <pgsql-sql@lists.postgresql.org>
Date: 2024-08-19T16:37:12Z
Lists: pgsql-sql
On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 9:08 AM Frank Komsic <komsicf@shoeicanada.com> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > > > Thank you for your suggestions. > > > > > > Steve wrote: > > I'm far from an expert in this area but running explain it explain analyze > seems like a useful thing to share with the group. Then I wonder if running > vacuum analyze would be useful? Maybe the planner is doing something weird. > > > > I have done a VACUUM ANALYZE and a VACUUM FULL on the questionable table > with marginal improvement but still it seems to be slower than previously. > I tried EXPLAIN ANALYZE and it does show it is slow for the number of > records. REINDEXED the index with little success as well. > > > > I'd also check if you lost any indexes you need during the bad day? > > > > How do I check that? > > > > Also being sure your system performance stats are correct - are you using > all the cores and ram that you expect? Is the disk temporary space and swap > performing normally? > > > > Need to see and verify that… do not have historical data on the > performance. Is there a way to get historicals or does it require a third > party software? > > > > Are other tables unaffected, somewhat affected or in the same situation as > this table. > > > > It seems other tables are fine as they do not have triggers on them. The > data table of millions of records seems to visualize 100 k records faster > than the table in question. > > > > Currently I stopped all updates and the table visualizes in a little over > 2 seconds. Previously while the updates were running it took 4 to 7 > seconds to visualize. > > > > I'd recommend, if your environment can tolerate debugging, with > reuploading this table's data into an identical table and see if the > problem exists there too. > > > > I am not an expert in PostgreSQL. We have lost our programmer and do not > have afall back plan for now. I have been educating myself on the > administration of postgresql, just this problem seems a bit unusual from > the training I had. > > > > How can I reupload the data into an identical table? > > > > Also if you dump the entire database can you reload in a new server and > replicate there? > > > > Yes the ultimate way to verify. I gather it would be a pg_basebackup and > then restore function? > > > > I hope this helps, > > Steve > > > I am not a postgres admin expert, but if I had this issue, I'd use pg_dump and pg_restore. I'm not familiar with pg_basebackup, but maybe it is more robust. Basically I'd run pg_dump (iirc "-F c" will dump in custom/native format), install the SAME version of postgres onto a machine with similar hardware, create a new database with the same name, then run pg_restore to get the data back into that. Regarding your explain analyze: again I'm no expert, but I really don't understand how a table with 2500 rows and 18 cols can take 2.5s to enumerate.. So that remains a very mysterious thing for me. But pulling the data to a new server/database and verifying that the same problem occurs there seems wise. But regarding the "width" - I believe that's a measure of all the columns concatenated together, returned in bytes, but I could be wrong. The fact that there is a trigger on this table is suggestive that there is maybe a locking issue that is interfering with the search. If you can copy the data to a new location, you can disable the trigger to verify if that's a big part of the problem.. Steve