Re: Pluggable Storage - Andres's take

Amit Khandekar <amitdkhan.pg@gmail.com>

From: Amit Khandekar <amitdkhan.pg@gmail.com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi.haribabu@gmail.com>, Asim R P <apraveen@pivotal.io>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>, Ashwin Agrawal <aagrawal@pivotal.io>, Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>, Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Date: 2019-02-22T16:19:17Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 18:06, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 6:44 AM Amit Khandekar <amitdkhan.pg@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ok, so something like XidHorizonPrefetchState ? On similar lines, does
> > prefetch_buffer() function name sound too generic as well ?
>
> Yeah, that sounds good.

> And, yeah, then maybe rename the function too.

Renamed the function to xid_horizon_prefetch_buffer().

>
> > > +/*
> > > + * An arbitrary way to come up with a pre-fetch distance that grows with io
> > > + * concurrency, but is at least 10 and not more than the max effective io
> > > + * concurrency.
> > > + */
> > >
> > > This comment is kinda useless, because it only tells us what the code
> > > does (which is obvious anyway) and not why it does that.  Saying that
> > > your formula is arbitrary may not be the best way to attract support
> > > for it.
> >
> > Well, I had checked the way the number of drive spindles
> > (effective_io_concurrency) is used to calculate the prefetch distance
> > for bitmap heap scans (ComputeIoConcurrency). Basically I think the
> > intention behind that method is to come up with a number that makes it
> > highly likely that we pre-fetch a block of each of the drive spindles.
> > But I didn't get how that exactly works, all the less for non-parallel
> > bitmap scans. Same is the case for the pre-fetching that we do here
> > for xid-horizon stuff, where we do the block reads sequentially. Me
> > and Andres discussed this offline, and he was of the opinion that this
> > formula won't help here, and instead we just keep a constant distance
> > that is some number greater than effective_io_concurrency. I agree
> > that instead of saying "arbitrary" we should explain why we have done
> > that, and before that, come up with an agreed-upon formula.

>
> Maybe something like: We don't use the regular formula to determine
> how much to prefetch here, but instead just add a constant to
> effective_io_concurrency.  That's because it seems best to do some
> prefetching here even when effective_io_concurrency is set to 0, but
> if the DBA thinks it's OK to do more prefetching for other operations,
> then it's probably OK to do more prefetching in this case, too.  It
> may be that this formula is too simplistic, but at the moment we have
> no evidence of that or any idea about what would work better.

Thanks for writing it down for me. I think this is good-to-go as a
comment; so I put this as-is into the patch.

>
> > > + for (i = prefetch_state->next_item; i < nitems && count < prefetch_count; i++)
> > >
> > > It looks strange to me that next_item is stored in prefetch_state and
> > > nitems is passed around as an argument.  Is there some reason why it's
> > > like that?
> >
> > We could keep the max count in the structure itself as well. There
> > isn't any specific reason for not keeping it there. It's just that
> > this function prefetch_state () is not a general function for
> > maintaining a prefetch state that spans across function calls; so we
> > might as well just pass the max count to that function instead of
> > having another field in that structure. I am not inclined specifically
> > towards either of the approaches.
>
> All right, count me as +0.5 for putting a copy in the structure.

Have put the nitems into the structure.

Thanks for the review. Attached v2.


-- 
Thanks,
-Amit Khandekar
EnterpriseDB Corporation
The Postgres Database Company

Commits

  1. Add default_table_access_method to postgresql.conf.sample.

  2. tableam: Avoid relying on relation size to determine validity of tids.

  3. tableam: Don't assume that every AM uses md.c style storage.

  4. Allow pg_class xid & multixid horizons to not be set.

  5. Fix slot type issue for fuzzy distance index scan over out-of-core table AM.

  6. tableam: comment and formatting fixes.

  7. table: docs: fix typos and grammar.

  8. tableam: basic documentation.

  9. Only allow heap in a number of contrib modules.

  10. tableam: Add table_finish_bulk_insert().

  11. tableam: sample scan.

  12. tableam: bitmap table scan.

  13. tableam: Move heap specific logic from estimate_rel_size below tableam.

  14. tableam: VACUUM and ANALYZE support.

  15. tableam: relation creation, VACUUM FULL/CLUSTER, SET TABLESPACE.

  16. tableam: Support for an index build's initial table scan(s).

  17. tableam: Add table_get_latest_tid, to wrap heap_get_latest_tid.

  18. tableam: Add helper for indexes to check if a corresponding table tuples exist.

  19. tableam: Add and use table_fetch_row_version().

  20. tableam: Use in CREATE TABLE AS and CREATE MATERIALIZED VIEW.

  21. Ensure sufficient alignment for ParallelTableScanDescData in BTShared.

  22. Don't reuse slots between root and partition in ON CONFLICT ... UPDATE.

  23. Use a virtual rather than a heap slot in two places where that suffices.

  24. Store tuples for EvalPlanQual in slots, rather than as HeapTuples.

  25. Use slots in trigger infrastructure, except for the actual invocation.

  26. Store table oid and tuple's tid in tuple slots directly.

  27. Allow to use HeapTupleData embedded in [Buffer]HeapTupleTableSlot.

  28. Add ExecStorePinnedBufferHeapTuple.

  29. Add ArchiveOpts to pass options to ArchiveEntry

  30. Rename RelationData.rd_amroutine to rd_indam.

  31. Rephrase references to "time qualification".

  32. Move remaining code from tqual.[ch] to heapam.h / heapam_visibility.c.

  33. Move generic snapshot related code from tqual.h to snapmgr.h.

  34. Remove superfluous tqual.h includes.

  35. Don't duplicate parallel seqscan shmem sizing logic in nbtree.

  36. Move vacuumlazy.c into access/heap.

  37. Support parallel bitmap heap scans.