Re: Perform streaming logical transactions by background workers and parallel apply
Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 9:15 AM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 7:35 PM Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > In the commit message, there is a statement like this > > > > "However, if the leader apply worker times out while attempting to > > send a message to the > > parallel apply worker, it will switch to "partial serialize" mode - in this > > mode the leader serializes all remaining changes to a file and notifies the > > parallel apply workers to read and apply them at the end of the transaction." > > > > I think it is a good idea to serialize the change to the file in this > > case to avoid deadlocks, but why does the parallel worker need to wait > > till the transaction commits to reading the file? I mean we can > > switch the serialize state and make a parallel worker pull changes > > from the file and if the parallel worker has caught up with the > > changes then it can again change the state to "share memory" and now > > the apply worker can again start sending through shared memory. > > > > I think generally streaming transactions are large and it is possible > > that the shared memory queue gets full because of a lot of changes for > > a particular transaction but later when the load switches to the other > > transactions then it would be quite common for the worker to catch up > > with the changes then it better to again take advantage of using > > memory. Otherwise, in this case, we are just wasting resources > > (worker/shared memory queue) but still writing in the file. > > > > Note that there is a certain threshold timeout for which we wait > before switching to serialize mode and normally it happens only when > PA starts waiting on some lock acquired by the backend. Now, apart > from that even if we decide to switch modes, the current BufFile > mechanism doesn't have a good way for that. It doesn't allow two > processes to open the same buffile at the same time which means we > need to maintain multiple files to achieve the mode where we can > switch back from serialize mode. We cannot let LA wait for PA to close > the file as that could introduce another kind of deadlock. For > details, see the discussion in the email [1]. The other problem is > that we have no way to deal with partially sent data via a shared > memory queue. Say, if we timeout while sending the data, we have to > resend the same message until it succeeds which will be tricky because > we can't keep retrying as that can lead to deadlock. I think if we try > to build this new mode, it will be a lot of effort without equivalent > returns. In common cases, we didn't see that we time out and switch to > serialize mode. It is mostly in cases where PA starts to wait for the > lock acquired by other backend or the machine is slow enough to deal > with the number of parallel apply workers. So, it doesn't seem worth > adding more complexity to the first version but we don't rule out the > possibility of the same in the future if we really see such cases are > common. > > [1] - https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAD21AoDScLvLT8JBfu5WaGCPQs_qhxsybMT%2BsMXJ%3DQrDMTyr9w%40mail.gmail.com Okay, I see. And once we change to serialize mode we can't release the worker as well because we have already applied partial changes under some transaction from a PA so we can not apply remaining from the LA. I understand it might introduce a lot of complex design to change it back to parallel apply mode but my only worry is that in such cases we will be holding on to the parallel worker just to wait till commit to reading from the spool file. But as you said it should not be very common case so maybe this is fine. -- Regards, Dilip Kumar EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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Fix invalid memory access during the shutdown of the parallel apply worker.
- 3d144c6c8602 16.0 landed
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Fix assertion failure in apply worker.
- de63f8dadee4 16.0 landed
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Use elog to report unexpected action in handle_streamed_transaction().
- 781ac42d43ab 16.0 landed
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Use appropriate wait event when sending data in the apply worker.
- d9d7fe68d35e 16.0 landed
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Allow the logical_replication_mode to be used on the subscriber.
- 9f2213a7c575 16.0 landed
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Rename GUC logical_decoding_mode to logical_replication_mode.
- 1e8b61735cfb 16.0 landed
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Display the leader apply worker's PID for parallel apply workers.
- d540a02a724b 16.0 landed
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Improve the code to decide and process the apply action.
- c981d9145dea 16.0 landed
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Document the newly added wait events added by commit 216a784829.
- cd06ccd78fcf 16.0 landed
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Perform apply of large transactions by parallel workers.
- 216a784829c2 16.0 landed
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Wake up a subscription's replication worker processes after DDL.
- c6e1f62e2cee 16.0 cited
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Add copyright notices to meson files
- 8284cf5f746f 16.0 cited
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Better document logical replication parameters
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Add a common function to generate the origin name.
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Harmonize parameter names in storage and AM code.
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Avoid using list_length() to test for empty list.
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Improve two comments related to a boolean DefElem's value
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Fix partition table's REPLICA IDENTITY checking on the subscriber.
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Fix data inconsistency between publisher and subscriber.
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Fix cache look-up failures while applying changes in logical replication.
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