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Use log_newpage_range in HASH index build
Kirill Reshke <reshkekirill@gmail.com> — 2025-10-23T19:21:35Z
There exists an optimization to index creation process, when we omit to write any WAL for index build. It is currently supported in B Tree, GIN, GiST, spg indexes. It works because we do not need to recover anything if index creation fails, because if was not used by any query. So, the index can be built on-disk, and then, just before making the index alive, we can simply log all pages to WAL. Hash index currently lacks this optimization. PFA implementation. During my testing, I checked the amount of WAL generated by index build before and after patch applied. My script was something like: select pg_current_wal_insert_lsn(); create index on t using hash (i); select pg_current_wal_insert_lsn(); select pg_lsn_wal_diff(lsn1, lsn2); Resulting numbers depend on index size, but I got 2.5-3.5 times less WAL with this patch and 8 times less WAL with this patch + wal_compression=on. Index creation time, however, did not change much... About implementation: These are many types of record that can be generated during index build. I know for sure these are possible (double-checked using pg_waldump): SPLIT_COMPLETE INSERT SPLIT_ALLOCATE_PAGE SPLIT_PAGE ADD_OVFL_PAGE SQUEEZE_PAGE INIT_META_PAGE INIT_BITMAP_PAGE Looks like SPLIT_COMPLETE and VACUUM_ONE_PAGE are never generated during index build. I'm not sure about MOVE_PAGE_CONTENTS. So, implementation is simply pass isbuild flag everywhere something is wal-logged. Looks like it is less invasive than alternatives. -- Best regards, Kirill Reshke
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Re: Use log_newpage_range in HASH index build
lakshmi <lakshmigcdac@gmail.com> — 2025-12-23T11:53:07Z
Hi Kirill, I tested your patch on the current master and confirmed the WAL reduction during HASH index build. While testing, I noticed a possible small follow-up improvement in HASH overflow handling. Currently, any free overflow page may be reused, which can scatter overflow chains and hurt cache locality. Reusing recently freed overflow pages first could help, without changing WAL behavior or on-disk format. I would like to work on this as a follow-up enhancement and would welcome any suggestions. Best regards, Lakshmi On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 2:31 PM Kirill Reshke <reshkekirill@gmail.com> wrote: > There exists an optimization to index creation process, when we omit > to write any WAL > for index build. It is currently supported in B Tree, GIN, GiST, spg > indexes. > It works because we do not need to recover anything if index creation > fails, because if was not used by any query. So, the index can be > built on-disk, and then, just before making the index alive, we can > simply log all pages to WAL. > > Hash index currently lacks this optimization. > PFA implementation. > > During my testing, I checked the amount of WAL generated by index > build before and after patch applied. My script was something like: > > select pg_current_wal_insert_lsn(); > > create index on t using hash (i); > > select pg_current_wal_insert_lsn(); > > select pg_lsn_wal_diff(lsn1, lsn2); > > Resulting numbers depend on index size, but I got 2.5-3.5 times less > WAL with this patch and 8 times less WAL with this patch + > wal_compression=on. > Index creation time, however, did not change much... > > About implementation: > These are many types of record that can be generated during index build. > I know for sure these are possible (double-checked using pg_waldump): > > SPLIT_COMPLETE > INSERT > SPLIT_ALLOCATE_PAGE > SPLIT_PAGE > ADD_OVFL_PAGE > SQUEEZE_PAGE > INIT_META_PAGE > INIT_BITMAP_PAGE > > > Looks like SPLIT_COMPLETE and VACUUM_ONE_PAGE are never generated > during index build. I'm not sure about MOVE_PAGE_CONTENTS. > > So, implementation is simply pass isbuild flag everywhere something is > wal-logged. Looks like it is less invasive than alternatives. > > -- > Best regards, > Kirill Reshke >
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Re: Use log_newpage_range in HASH index build
lakshmi <lakshmigcdac@gmail.com> — 2026-01-05T08:50:27Z
Hi Kirill, Following up on my earlier note, I implemented the proposed HASH overflow page reuse enhancement.Recently freed overflow pages are recorded in _hash_freeovflpage( ),and _hash_addovflpage( ) now prefers reusing those pages during allocation before falling back to the bitmap scan. The change is backend-local and allocation-only,with no WAL or on-disk format changes.I verified correctness using index build/drop and VACUUM cycles,and confirmed WAL neutrality by comparing WAL generated during HASH index builds with and without this change (no observable difference beyond normal noise). The patch is attached for review.Feedback is welcome. Best regards, Lakshmi On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 5:23 PM lakshmi <lakshmigcdac@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Kirill, > > I tested your patch on the current master and confirmed the WAL reduction > during HASH index build. > > While testing, I noticed a possible small follow-up improvement in HASH > overflow handling. Currently, any free overflow page may be reused, which > can scatter overflow chains and hurt cache locality. Reusing recently freed > overflow pages first could help, without changing WAL behavior or on-disk > format. > > I would like to work on this as a follow-up enhancement and would welcome > any suggestions. > > Best regards, > Lakshmi > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 2:31 PM Kirill Reshke <reshkekirill@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> There exists an optimization to index creation process, when we omit >> to write any WAL >> for index build. It is currently supported in B Tree, GIN, GiST, spg >> indexes. >> It works because we do not need to recover anything if index creation >> fails, because if was not used by any query. So, the index can be >> built on-disk, and then, just before making the index alive, we can >> simply log all pages to WAL. >> >> Hash index currently lacks this optimization. >> PFA implementation. >> >> During my testing, I checked the amount of WAL generated by index >> build before and after patch applied. My script was something like: >> >> select pg_current_wal_insert_lsn(); >> >> create index on t using hash (i); >> >> select pg_current_wal_insert_lsn(); >> >> select pg_lsn_wal_diff(lsn1, lsn2); >> >> Resulting numbers depend on index size, but I got 2.5-3.5 times less >> WAL with this patch and 8 times less WAL with this patch + >> wal_compression=on. >> Index creation time, however, did not change much... >> >> About implementation: >> These are many types of record that can be generated during index build. >> I know for sure these are possible (double-checked using pg_waldump): >> >> SPLIT_COMPLETE >> INSERT >> SPLIT_ALLOCATE_PAGE >> SPLIT_PAGE >> ADD_OVFL_PAGE >> SQUEEZE_PAGE >> INIT_META_PAGE >> INIT_BITMAP_PAGE >> >> >> Looks like SPLIT_COMPLETE and VACUUM_ONE_PAGE are never generated >> during index build. I'm not sure about MOVE_PAGE_CONTENTS. >> >> So, implementation is simply pass isbuild flag everywhere something is >> wal-logged. Looks like it is less invasive than alternatives. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Kirill Reshke >> >
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Re: Use log_newpage_range in HASH index build
Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> — 2026-04-26T17:09:32Z
On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 3:21 PM Kirill Reshke <reshkekirill@gmail.com> wrote: > So, implementation is simply pass isbuild flag everywhere something is > wal-logged. Looks like it is less invasive than alternatives. I think that in order to be seriously considered, this patch will need more than zero words of comments and more than a one-line commit message. The XXX comment would need addressing, too. -- Robert Haas EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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Re: Use log_newpage_range in HASH index build
Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> — 2026-04-26T17:12:06Z
On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 3:48 AM lakshmi <lakshmigcdac@gmail.com> wrote: > Following up on my earlier note, I implemented the proposed HASH overflow page reuse enhancement.Recently freed overflow pages are recorded in > _hash_freeovflpage( ),and _hash_addovflpage( ) now prefers reusing those pages during allocation before falling back to the bitmap scan. > > The change is backend-local and allocation-only,with no WAL or on-disk format changes.I verified correctness using index build/drop and VACUUM cycles,and confirmed WAL neutrality by comparing WAL generated during HASH index builds with and without this change (no observable difference beyond normal noise). > > The patch is attached for review.Feedback is welcome. It is probably best to start a separate email thread specifically about this patch, because it's doing something quite different from the original patch. I suggest presenting some specific performance results, as it's not very clear how much benefit this might have. It might be good to test a favorable scenario and also an unfavorable scenario, describing and showing results for each. -- Robert Haas EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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Re: Use log_newpage_range in HASH index build
lakshmi <lakshmigcdac@gmail.com> — 2026-04-27T17:10:21Z
Hi, > It is probably best to start a separate email thread specifically > about this patch, because it's doing something quite different from > the original patch. I suggest presenting some specific performance > results, as it's not very clear how much benefit this might have. It > might be good to test a favorable scenario and also an unfavorable > scenario, describing and showing results for each. > > > Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll start a separate thread for this patch > with performance results. > > Regards, > Lakshmi >