Re: index prefetching
Alexandre Felipe <o.alexandre.felipe@gmail.com>
> We're in crunch mode right now, ahead of feature freeze, which is less
> than 6 weeks away.
BTW, it seems that someone forgot to #include "utils/rel.h" in
src/backend/access/transam/xloginsert.c
> Tomas has been working on this project for about 3
> years, and I've been working on it for about 1.
That is why I gave up on contributing a feature that I wanted back in 2022
(that could make some of our queries dozens of times faster queries).
Before going for it I tried something easier staying away from critical
things like IO, contention, replication and submitting a planner
improvement (5479), and while I waited I decided to look for high impact
features. That is how I ended up in this thread. So even if I am
inconvenient you can look at my presence here as a compliment!
> Long digressions about
> the asymptotic complexity of priority queues add less than zero value.
Sorry for that, for some readers that could not be obvious. Let me know if
you think there is something where I can add greater than or equal zero
value.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2026 at 7:28 PM Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2026 at 11:23 AM Alexandre Felipe
> <o.alexandre.felipe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > DISTANCE CONTROL
> >
> > I tested different strategies to increase distance. 2*d, 2*d+1, d+2,
> d+4, and so on. In my head, what would make sense is d + io_combine_limi,
> but in the end the 2*d gives the best results across different patterns,
> e.g. (h{200}m{200}) that seems to be a more reasonable pattern, as previous
> scans would have loaded in blocks. But these are fundamentally the same, as
> I posted about this a markov model, and the limit will be something like
> max_distance * sigmoid(h * (p - p0)), what changes is the transient when we
> go in and out of a cached region.
>
> I don't understand. Why, in general, would a Markov model be useful
> for determining prefetch distance?
>
> > LIMITING PREFETCH
> >
> > To avoid prefetch waste with a limit node wouldn't it make sense to send
> from the executor an estimate of how many rows will be required.
>
> There's a patch that does that. Have you looked at the patch series at all?
>
> > I/O REORDERING
> >
> > I did an experiment reordering the heap accesses, following a zig-zag
> pattern
>
> There's no question that reordering heap accesses is an interesting
> direction to eventually take this infrastructure in. I've experimented
> with that myself. But this is the worst possible time to be increasing
> the scope of the patch for an uncertain benefit.
>
> We're in crunch mode right now, ahead of feature freeze, which is less
> than 6 weeks away. Tomas has been working on this project for about 3
> years, and I've been working on it for about 1. Long digressions about
> the asymptotic complexity of priority queues add less than zero value.
>
> --
> Peter Geoghegan
>
Commits
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read stream: Split decision about look ahead for AIO and combining
- 8ca147d582a5 19 (unreleased) landed
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read_stream: Only increase read-ahead distance when waiting for IO
- f63ca3379025 19 (unreleased) landed
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aio: io_uring: Trigger async processing for large IOs
- a9ee66881744 19 (unreleased) landed
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heapam: Keep buffer pins across index scan resets.
- 2d3490dd99f0 19 (unreleased) landed
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heapam: Track heap block in IndexFetchHeapData.
- c7d09595e46f 19 (unreleased) landed
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Move heapam_handler.c index scan code to new file.
- a29fdd6c8d81 19 (unreleased) landed
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Rename heapam_index_fetch_tuple argument for clarity.
- 1adff1a0c558 19 (unreleased) landed
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Optimize fast-path FK checks with batched index probes
- b7b27eb41a5c 19 (unreleased) cited
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read_stream: Prevent distance from decaying too quickly
- 6e36930f9aaf 19 (unreleased) landed
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read_stream: Issue IO synchronously while in fast path
- cceb1bf45e3a 19 (unreleased) landed
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bufmgr: Return whether WaitReadBuffers() needed to wait
- 513374a47a71 19 (unreleased) landed
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aio: io_uring: Allow IO methods to check if IO completed in the background
- 6e648e353fa0 19 (unreleased) landed
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bufmgr: Make UnlockReleaseBuffer() more efficient
- f39cb8c01106 19 (unreleased) cited
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Add fake LSN support to hash index AM.
- e5836f7b7d9a 19 (unreleased) landed
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Make IndexScanInstrumentation a pointer in executor scan nodes.
- f026fbf059f2 19 (unreleased) landed
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Use fake LSNs to improve nbtree dropPin behavior.
- 8a879119a1d1 19 (unreleased) landed
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Move fake LSN infrastructure out of GiST.
- d774072f0040 19 (unreleased) landed
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Use simplehash for backend-private buffer pin refcounts.
- a367c433ad01 19 (unreleased) landed
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nbtree: Avoid allocating _bt_search stack.
- d071e1cfec23 19 (unreleased) landed
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bufmgr: Fix use of wrong variable in GetPrivateRefCountEntrySlow()
- 6322a028fa43 19 (unreleased) landed
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Conditional locking in pgaio_worker_submit_internal
- 29a0fb215779 19 (unreleased) landed
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Reduce ExecSeqScan* code size using pg_assume()
- b227b0bb4e03 19 (unreleased) cited
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Fix rare bug in read_stream.c's split IO handling.
- b421223172a2 19 (unreleased) cited
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Remove HeapBitmapScan's skip_fetch optimization
- 459e7bf8e2f8 18.0 cited
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Optimize nbtree backwards scans.
- 1bd4bc85cac2 18.0 cited
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Fix multiranges to behave more like dependent types.
- 3e8235ba4f9c 17.0 cited
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Add EXPLAIN (MEMORY) to report planner memory consumption
- 5de890e3610d 17.0 cited
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Optimize nbtree backward scan boundary cases.
- c9c0589fda0e 17.0 cited
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Increment xactCompletionCount during subtransaction abort.
- 90c885cdab8b 14.0 cited
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Add nbtree Valgrind buffer lock checks.
- 4a70f829d86c 14.0 cited
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Add nbtree high key "continuescan" optimization.
- 29b64d1de7c7 12.0 cited
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Reduce pinning and buffer content locking for btree scans.
- 2ed5b87f96d4 9.5.0 cited
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Teach btree to handle ScalarArrayOpExpr quals natively.
- 9e8da0f75731 9.2.0 cited