Re: pg_utility ?

On Wed, Nov 5, 2025 at 4:29 PM Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> wrote:

> I didn't immediately love this idea, but I'm not totally opposed to it
> either, and perhaps it makes things better rather than adding yet
> another very narrowly-focused tool.  Also, pg_ctl already kinda has a
> somewhat similar facet with its "pg_ctl init" mode.
>

I support this idea, moving these scattered commands under pg_ctl will
definitely help and bring maintenance commands in line with other
ecosystems where it's normal to follow the template of "[ecosystem]
[action] [arguments]".
Examples:
 - docker run postgres
 - pip install h3
 - apt install postgres
 - systemctl status postgresql
 - pg_ctl start

In this pattern stuff like vacuumdb, createuser, createlang, createdb, ...
looks very off.

The same migration recently happened in imagemagick/graphicsmagick, where
instead of the old "convert" binary there is now "gm convert" that better
controls expectations (you won't attempt to convert to mp3 with it).