Re: Statistics Import and Export

Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
To: Corey Huinker <corey.huinker@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>, Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat.oss@gmail.com>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>, Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Date: 2024-03-30T11:26:59Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers

Commits

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  1. Change pg_dump default for statistics export.

  2. pg_dump: Adjust reltuples from 0 to -1 for dumps of older versions.

  3. vacuumdb: Don't skip empty relations in --missing-stats-only mode.

  4. pg_dump: Fix query for gathering attribute stats on older versions.

  5. Prevent redeclaration of typedef TocEntry.

  6. Remove unused function parameters in pg_backup_archiver.c.

  7. pg_dump: Retrieve attribute statistics in batches.

  8. pg_dump: Reduce memory usage of dumps with statistics.

  9. Skip second WriteToc() call for custom-format dumps without data.

  10. Add relallfrozen to pg_dump statistics.

  11. Matview statistics depend on matview data.

  12. Add pg_dump --with-{schema|data|statistics} options.

  13. Stats: use schemaname/relname instead of regclass.

  14. CREATE INDEX: do update index stats if autovacuum=off.

  15. Don't convert to and from floats in pg_dump.

  16. CREATE INDEX: don't update table stats if autovacuum=off.

  17. Organize and deduplicate statistics import tests.

  18. Address stats export review comments.

  19. Address stats import review comments.

  20. Add relallfrozen to pg_class

  21. Fix pg_strtof() to not crash on NULL endptr.

  22. Use attnum to identify index columns in pg_restore_attribute_stats().

  23. pg_dump: prepare attribute stats query.

  24. Avoid unnecessary relation stats query in pg_dump.

  25. Remove redundant pg_set_*_stats() variants.

  26. Do not use in-place updates for statistics import.

  27. Fix confusion about data type of pg_class.relpages and relallvisible.

  28. Documentation fixups for dumping statistics.

  29. Trial fix for old cross-version upgrades.

  30. Transfer statistics during pg_upgrade.

  31. Lock table in ShareUpdateExclusive when importing index stats.

  32. Use in-place updates for pg_restore_relation_stats().

  33. Improve error message for replication of generated columns.

  34. pg_dump: Add dumpSchema and dumpData derivative flags.

  35. Disallow modifying statistics on system columns.

  36. Add missing CommandCounterIncrement() in stats import functions.

  37. Add functions pg_restore_relation_stats(), pg_restore_attribute_stats().

  38. Documentation fixup.

  39. Add functions pg_set_attribute_stats() and pg_clear_attribute_stats().

  40. Change pg_*_relation_stats() functions to return type to void.

  41. Disable autovacuum for tables in stats import tests.

  42. Allow pg_set_relation_stats() to set relpages to -1.

  43. Fixup for pg_set_relation_stats().

  44. Create functions pg_set_relation_stats, pg_clear_relation_stats.

  45. Add memory/disk usage for Window aggregate nodes in EXPLAIN.

  46. Improve performance of dumpSequenceData().

  47. Add INJECTION_POINT_CACHED() to run injection points directly from cache

  48. Improve performance of binary_upgrade_set_pg_class_oids().

  49. Improve assertion in mdwritev()

  50. CREATE INDEX: do not update stats during binary upgrade.

  51. Redefine pg_class.reltuples to be -1 before the first VACUUM or ANALYZE.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 1:26 AM Corey Huinker <corey.huinker@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 7:34 PM Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2024-03-29 at 18:02 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> > I’d certainly think “with stats” would be the preferred default of
>> > our users.
>>
>> I'm concerned there could still be paths that lead to an error. For
>> pg_restore, or when loading a SQL file, a single error isn't fatal
>> (unless -e is specified), but it still could be somewhat scary to see
>> errors during a reload.
>>
>
> To that end, I'm going to be modifying the "Optimizer statistics are not
> transferred by pg_upgrade..." message when stats _were_ transferred,
> width additional instructions that the user should treat any stats-ish
> error messages encountered as a reason to manually analyze that table. We
> should probably say something about extended stats as well.
>
>

I'm getting late into this discussion and I apologize if I've missed this
being discussed before. But.

Please don't.

That will make it *really* hard for any form of automation or drivers of
this. The information needs to go somewhere where such tools can easily
consume it, and an informational message during runtime (which is also
likely to be translated in many environments) is the exact opposite of that.

Surely we can come up with something better. Otherwise, I think all those
tools are just going ot have to end up assuming that it always failed and
proceed based on that, and that would be a shame.

-- 
 Magnus Hagander
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