Re: SCRAM with channel binding downgrade attack

Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Date: 2018-06-11T14:54:45Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Peter Eisentraut <
peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

> On 6/6/18 18:04, Michael Paquier wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 11:53:06PM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> >> That would certainly be good. We've always had that problem, even with
> md5
> >> -> plaintext password downgrade, and it would be nice to fix it. It's
> quite
> >> late in the release cycle already, do you think we should address that
> now?
> >> I could go either way..
> >
> > I would be inclined to treat that as new development as this is no new
> > problem.
>
> I agree.
>
>
Agreed as well.

I'm wondering if that means we should then also not do it specifically for
scram in this version. Otherwise we're likely to end up with a parameter
that only has a "lifetime" of one version, and that seems like a bad idea.
If nothing else we should clearly think out what the path is to make sure
that doesn't happen. (e.g. we don't want a
scram_channel_binding_mode=require in this version, if the next one is
going to replace it with something like heikkis suggested
allowed_authentication_methods=SCRAM-SHA-256-PLUS or whatever we end up
coming up with there).

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Commits

  1. doc: update PG 11 release notes

  2. Fix misspelled pg_trgm contrib name in PostgreSQL 11 release notes

  3. Doc: clarify release note text about v11's new window function features.

  4. Improve wording of release notes item

  5. Fix typos in release notes

  6. Doc: preliminary list of PG11 major features.

  7. Make numeric power() handle NaNs according to the modern POSIX spec.

  8. Various improvements of skipping index scan during vacuum technics

  9. Revert back-branch changes in power()'s behavior for NaN inputs.

  10. Avoid wrong results for power() with NaN input on more platforms.

  11. Avoid wrong results for power() with NaN input on some platforms.

  12. Skip full index scan during cleanup of B-tree indexes when possible

  13. Rewrite the code that applies scan/join targets to paths.

  14. Postpone generate_gather_paths for topmost scan/join rel.

  15. Add casts from jsonb

  16. Make plpgsql use its DTYPE_REC code paths for composite-type variables.

  17. Don't allow VACUUM VERBOSE ANALYZE VERBOSE.

  18. Pass InitPlan values to workers via Gather (Merge).

  19. Account for the effect of lossy pages when costing bitmap scans.

  20. Allow no-op GiST support functions to be omitted.

  21. Rearm statement_timeout after each executed query.

  22. Push limit through subqueries to underlying sort, where possible.