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  1. physical replication compatibilty

    Jatinder Singh Sandhu <jitu.sandhu@gmail.com> — 2026-04-15T22:06:33Z

    Dear PostgreSQL Community,
    I am currently planning a major version upgrade from PostgreSQL 16 to
    PostgreSQL 17. I have three node patroni cluster. While I am aware that
    logical replication is the standard approach for cross-version migrations,
    I am curious about the feasibility of physical streaming replication in
    this specific scenario.
    Specifically, I would like to clarify:
    
       1. Is physical streaming replication backward compatible between these
       two major versions?
       2. Since many data files remain consistent between versions, is there
       any supported method to leverage physical block-level replication to
       minimize the initial data synchronization time before a cutover?
    
    I understand that WAL formats and system catalogs typically change between
    major releases, but I wanted to confirm if there are any modern workarounds
    or "late-binding" techniques available in the v17 ecosystem.
    Thank you for your time and expertise.
    Best regards,
    
  2. Re: physical replication compatibilty

    David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> — 2026-04-15T22:16:20Z

    On Wed, Apr 15, 2026 at 3:06 PM Jatinder Singh Sandhu <jitu.sandhu@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    
    > Is physical streaming replication backward compatible between these two
    > major versions?
    >
    
    pg_upgrade can perform this kind of physical transfer upgrade.
    
    Physical replication is only reliable when the source and target are
    basically identical in platform and software.  It cannot be expected to
    work between major versions.
    
    David J.
    
  3. Re: physical replication compatibilty

    Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> — 2026-04-15T22:16:54Z

    
    On 4/15/26 3:06 PM, Jatinder Singh Sandhu wrote:
    > Dear PostgreSQL Community,
    > I am currently planning a major version upgrade from PostgreSQL 16 to 
    > PostgreSQL 17. I have three node patroni cluster. While I am aware that 
    > logical replication is the standard approach for cross-version 
    > migrations, I am curious about the feasibility of physical streaming 
    > replication in this specific scenario.
    > Specifically, I would like to clarify:
    > 
    >  1. Is physical streaming replication backward compatible between these
    >     two major versions?
    >  2. Since many data files remain consistent between versions, is there
    >     any supported method to leverage physical block-level replication to
    >     minimize the initial data synchronization time before a cutover?
    > 
    > I understand that WAL formats and system catalogs typically change 
    > between major releases, but I wanted to confirm if there are any modern 
    > workarounds or "late-binding" techniques available in the v17 ecosystem.
    > Thank you for your time and expertise.
    
    I think you are looking for:
    
    https://www.postgresql.org/docs/17/pgupgrade.html
    
    In particular this:
    
    13. Upgrade streaming replication and log-shipping standby servers
    
    Whether that will play well with the Patroni cluster or not is not 
    something I can comment on.
    
    It is covered below though:
    
    https://patroni.readthedocs.io/en/latest/existing_data.html#major-upgrade-of-postgresql-version
    
    > Best regards,