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  1. Doc: unify use of timestamp with time zone vs timestamptz

  2. pgstat: Track time of the last scan of a relation

  1. [16Beta1][doc] pgstat: Track time of the last scan of a relation

    Shinoda, Noriyoshi <noriyoshi.shinoda@hpe.com> — 2023-05-31T03:56:51Z

    Hi, hackers.
     PostgreSQL 16 Beta1, added last access time to pg_stat_all_tables and pg_stat_all_indexes views by this patch [1].
    According to the documentation [2], the data type of the columns added to these views is 'timestamptz'. 
    However, columns of the same data type in pg_stat_all_tables.last_vacuum, last_analyze and other tables are unified to 'timestamp with time zone'. The attached patch changes the data type of the added column from timestamptz to timestamp with time zone.
    
    [1] pgstat: Track time of the last scan of a relation
    https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=commit;h=c037471832e1ec3327f81eebbd8892e5c1042fe0
    [2] pg_stat_activity view
    https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/monitoring-stats.html#MONITORING-PG-STAT-ALL-TABLES-VIEW
    
    Regards,
    Noriyoshi Shinoda
    
  2. Re: [16Beta1][doc] pgstat: Track time of the last scan of a relation

    David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> — 2023-05-31T06:13:57Z

    On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 15:57, Shinoda, Noriyoshi (PN Japan FSIP)
    <noriyoshi.shinoda@hpe.com> wrote:
    > According to the documentation [2], the data type of the columns added to these views is 'timestamptz'.
    > However, columns of the same data type in pg_stat_all_tables.last_vacuum, last_analyze and other tables are unified to 'timestamp with time zone'. The attached patch changes the data type of the added column from timestamptz to timestamp with time zone.
    
    I agree that it would be good to make those consistently use timestamp
    with time zone for all columns of that type in the docs for
    pg_stat_all_tables.
    
    More generally, it might be good if we did it for the entire docs:
    
    doc $ git grep "<type>timestamptz</type>" | wc -l
    17
    doc $ git grep "<type>timestamp with time zone</type>" | wc -l
    74
    
    Clearly "timestamp with time zone" is much more commonly used.
    
    The bar is probably set a bit higher for changing the
    longer-established ones, however.
    
    David
    
    
    
    
  3. RE: [16Beta1][doc] pgstat: Track time of the last scan of a relation

    Shinoda, Noriyoshi <noriyoshi.shinoda@hpe.com> — 2023-06-01T09:38:18Z

    Hi, Thanks for your comment.
    As you say, it would be difficult to unify the data types in all documents right now.
    The patch I attached the other day unifies only the newly added columns in monitoring.sgml to "timestamp with time zone".
    
    Regards,
    Noriyoshi Shinoda
    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> 
    Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 3:14 PM
    To: Shinoda, Noriyoshi (PN Japan FSIP) <noriyoshi.shinoda@hpe.com>
    Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>; dpage@pgadmin.org; andres@anarazel.de; bruce@momjian.us; vik@postgresfriends.org
    Subject: Re: [16Beta1][doc] pgstat: Track time of the last scan of a relation
    
    On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 15:57, Shinoda, Noriyoshi (PN Japan FSIP) <noriyoshi.shinoda@hpe.com> wrote:
    > According to the documentation [2], the data type of the columns added to these views is 'timestamptz'.
    > However, columns of the same data type in pg_stat_all_tables.last_vacuum, last_analyze and other tables are unified to 'timestamp with time zone'. The attached patch changes the data type of the added column from timestamptz to timestamp with time zone.
    
    I agree that it would be good to make those consistently use timestamp with time zone for all columns of that type in the docs for pg_stat_all_tables.
    
    More generally, it might be good if we did it for the entire docs:
    
    doc $ git grep "<type>timestamptz</type>" | wc -l
    17
    doc $ git grep "<type>timestamp with time zone</type>" | wc -l
    74
    
    Clearly "timestamp with time zone" is much more commonly used.
    
    The bar is probably set a bit higher for changing the longer-established ones, however.
    
    David
    
  4. Re: [16Beta1][doc] pgstat: Track time of the last scan of a relation

    David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> — 2023-06-05T05:36:52Z

    On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 15:57, Shinoda, Noriyoshi (PN Japan FSIP)
    <noriyoshi.shinoda@hpe.com> wrote:
    >  PostgreSQL 16 Beta1, added last access time to pg_stat_all_tables and pg_stat_all_indexes views by this patch [1].
    > According to the documentation [2], the data type of the columns added to these views is 'timestamptz'.
    > However, columns of the same data type in pg_stat_all_tables.last_vacuum, last_analyze and other tables are unified to 'timestamp with time zone'. The attached patch changes the data type of the added column from timestamptz to timestamp with time zone.
    
    I've now pushed this change.
    
    David
    
    
    
    
  5. RE: [16Beta1][doc] pgstat: Track time of the last scan of a relation

    Shinoda, Noriyoshi <noriyoshi.shinoda@hpe.com> — 2023-06-05T07:04:38Z

    Hi, David.
    
    > I've now pushed this change.
    Thank you so much.
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> 
    Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 2:37 PM
    To: Shinoda, Noriyoshi (PN Japan FSIP) <noriyoshi.shinoda@hpe.com>
    Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>; dpage@pgadmin.org; andres@anarazel.de; bruce@momjian.us; vik@postgresfriends.org
    Subject: Re: [16Beta1][doc] pgstat: Track time of the last scan of a relation
    
    On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 15:57, Shinoda, Noriyoshi (PN Japan FSIP) <noriyoshi.shinoda@hpe.com> wrote:
    >  PostgreSQL 16 Beta1, added last access time to pg_stat_all_tables and pg_stat_all_indexes views by this patch [1].
    > According to the documentation [2], the data type of the columns added to these views is 'timestamptz'.
    > However, columns of the same data type in pg_stat_all_tables.last_vacuum, last_analyze and other tables are unified to 'timestamp with time zone'. The attached patch changes the data type of the added column from timestamptz to timestamp with time zone.
    
    I've now pushed this change.
    
    David