Re: Support logical replication of DDLs
Zheng Li <zhengli10@gmail.com>
From: Zheng Li <zhengli10@gmail.com>
To: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>, Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com>,
"houzj.fnst@fujitsu.com" <houzj.fnst@fujitsu.com>, "wangw.fnst@fujitsu.com" <wangw.fnst@fujitsu.com>,
Runqi Tian <runqidev@gmail.com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>, li jie <ggysxcq@gmail.com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>,
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>, Japin Li <japinli@hotmail.com>, rajesh singarapu <rajesh.rs0541@gmail.com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
Date: 2023-03-29T16:53:31Z
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Add a run_as_owner option to subscriptions.
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Refactor pgoutput_change().
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Print the correct aliases for DML target tables in ruleutils.
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Fix object identity string for transforms
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Add grantable MAINTAIN privilege and pg_maintain role.
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Release cache tuple when no longer needed
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Empty search_path in logical replication apply worker and walsender.
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Refactor format_type APIs to be more modular
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Use wrappers of PG_DETOAST_DATUM_PACKED() more.
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On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 5:13 AM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 2:49 AM Zheng Li <zhengli10@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I agree that a full fledged DDL deparser and DDL replication is too > > big of a task for one patch. I think we may consider approaching this > > feature in the following ways: > > 1. Phased development and testing as discussed in other emails. > > Probably support table commands first (as they are the most common > > DDLs), then the other commands in multiple phases. > > 2. Provide a subscription option to receive the DDL change, raise a > > notice and to skip applying the change. The users can listen to the > > DDL notice and implement application logic to apply the change if > > needed. The idea is we can start gathering user feedback by providing > > a somewhat useful feature (compared to doing nothing about DDLs), but > > also avoid heading straight into the potential footgun situation > > caused by automatically applying any mal-formatted DDLs. > > > > Doesn't this mean that we still need to support deparsing of such DDLs > which is what I think we don't want? I think we can send the plain DDL command string and the search_path if we don't insist on applying it in the first version. Maybe the deparser can be integrated later when we're confident that it's ready/subset of it is ready. > > 3. As cross-version DDL syntax differences are expected to be uncommon > > (in real workload), maybe we can think about other options to handle > > such edge cases instead of fully automating it? For example, what > > about letting the user specify how a DDL should be replicated on the > > subscriber by explicitly providing two versions of DDL commands in > > some way? > > > > As we are discussing in another related thread [1], if > publisher_version > subscriber_version then it may not be possible to > form a DDL at publisher which can be applied to the subscriber. OTOH, > we need to think if there could be any problems with publisher_version > < subscriber_version setup, and if so, what we want to do for it. > Once, we have a clear answer to that then I think we will be in a > better position to answer your question. > [1] - https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/OS0PR01MB5716088E497BDCBCED7FC3DA94849%40OS0PR01MB5716.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com Regards, Zane