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  1. psql: Improve describe footer titles for publications.

  2. Fix capitalization in publication describe output.

  3. Allow table exclusions in publications via EXCEPT TABLE.

  1. EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-10T07:13:15Z

    Hi.
    
    While experimenting with "CREATE PUBLICATION ... FOR ALL TABLES EXCEPT
    (TABLE...)" I noticed a small "case" inconsistency.
    
    Background: The \d and \dRp+ command were enhanced in commit fd36606
    [1][2] to say what tables are excluded from what publications.
    
    e.g.
    
    # -- describe the publications
    # \dRp+ pub1
                                                         Publication pub1
    Owner   | All tables | All sequences | Inserts | Updates | Deletes |
    Truncates | Generated columns | Via root | Description
    ----------+------------+---------------+---------+---------+---------+-----------+-------------------+----------+-------------
    postgres | t          | f             | t       | t      | t       | t
            | none              | f        |
    
    Except tables:
      "public.t1"
      "public.t2"
    
    # \dRp+ pub2
                                                         Publication pub2
    Owner   | All tables | All sequences | Inserts | Updates | Deletes |
    Truncates | Generated columns | Via root | Description
    ----------+------------+---------------+---------+---------+---------+-----------+-------------------+----------+-------------
    postgres | f          | f             | t       | t      | t       | t
            | none              | f        |
    Tables:
      "public.t2"
      "public.t3"
    
    # -- describe the tables
    # \d t1
                    Table "public.t1"
    Column | Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    a      | integer |           |          |
    Except Publications:
      "pub1"
    
    # \d t2
                    Table "public.t2"
    Column | Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    a      | integer |           |          |
    
    Publications:
      "pub2"
    Except Publications:
      "pub1"
    
    ~~~
    
    Notice that that the describe publication says:
    "Tables:" and "Except tables:" (Lowercase "tables")
    
    Notice that the describe table says:
    "Publications:" and "Except Publications:"  (Uppercase "Publications")
    
    I think they should use a consistent case:
    eg1. (both lowercase) Except tables; Except publications, OR
    eg2. (bother uppercase) Except Tables; Except Publications
    
    ~~~
    
    I did not yet provide a patch because I was not sure which way
    (uppercase/lowercase) is best, so wanted to hear some opinions about
    that first.
    
    (I'm expecting that some DOCS examples and/or TESTS for "describe"
    will also be impacted).
    
    Thoughts?
    
    ======
    [1] https://github.com/postgres/postgres/commit/fd366065e06ae953c4f2d973d5c5f0474f3b87b6#diff-cdb325f8994210a4cfacc19525f11e9b368a3f78641b67105c105449df9b645cR6859
    [2] https://github.com/postgres/postgres/commit/fd366065e06ae953c4f2d973d5c5f0474f3b87b6#diff-cdb325f8994210a4cfacc19525f11e9b368a3f78641b67105c105449df9b645cR3183
    
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia
    
    
    
    
  2. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> — 2026-04-10T10:19:34Z

    On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 12:43 PM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > Notice that that the describe publication says:
    > "Tables:" and "Except tables:" (Lowercase "tables")
    >
    > Notice that the describe table says:
    > "Publications:" and "Except Publications:"  (Uppercase "Publications")
    >
    > I think they should use a consistent case:
    > eg1. (both lowercase) Except tables; Except publications, OR
    > eg2. (bother uppercase) Except Tables; Except Publications
    >
    
    We should follow eg1. I checked few examples where we follow same
    pattern as eg1:
    
    Example-1: (See: "Tables from schemas")
     postgres=# \dRp+ pub1
                                                         Publication pub1
     Owner | All tables | All sequences | Inserts | Updates | Deletes |
    Truncates | Generated columns | Via root | Description
    -------+------------+---------------+---------+---------+---------+-----------+-------------------+----------+-------------
     amit  | f          | f             | t       | t       | t       | t
           | none              | f        |
    Tables from schemas:
        "sch1"
    
    Example-2: ((See: "No connections")
    postgres=# create user u1 CONNECTION LIMIT 0;
    CREATE ROLE
    postgres=# \du u1
           List of roles
     Role name |   Attributes
    -----------+----------------
     u1        | No connections
    
    -- 
    With Regards,
    Amit Kapila.
    
    
    
    
  3. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-13T02:14:59Z

    On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 8:19 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 12:43 PM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > Notice that that the describe publication says:
    > > "Tables:" and "Except tables:" (Lowercase "tables")
    > >
    > > Notice that the describe table says:
    > > "Publications:" and "Except Publications:"  (Uppercase "Publications")
    > >
    > > I think they should use a consistent case:
    > > eg1. (both lowercase) Except tables; Except publications, OR
    > > eg2. (bother uppercase) Except Tables; Except Publications
    > >
    >
    > We should follow eg1. I checked few examples where we follow same
    > pattern as eg1:
    >
    > Example-1: (See: "Tables from schemas")
    >  postgres=# \dRp+ pub1
    >                                                      Publication pub1
    >  Owner | All tables | All sequences | Inserts | Updates | Deletes |
    > Truncates | Generated columns | Via root | Description
    > -------+------------+---------------+---------+---------+---------+-----------+-------------------+----------+-------------
    >  amit  | f          | f             | t       | t       | t       | t
    >        | none              | f        |
    > Tables from schemas:
    >     "sch1"
    >
    > Example-2: ((See: "No connections")
    > postgres=# create user u1 CONNECTION LIMIT 0;
    > CREATE ROLE
    > postgres=# \du u1
    >        List of roles
    >  Role name |   Attributes
    > -----------+----------------
    >  u1        | No connections
    >
    
    Hi Amit.
    
    Thanks for the advice.
    
    PSA patch v1 to change "Except Publications" to "Except publications".
    
    ======
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia
    
  4. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com> — 2026-04-13T03:21:06Z

    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 at 07:45, Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 8:19 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 12:43 PM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Notice that that the describe publication says:
    > > > "Tables:" and "Except tables:" (Lowercase "tables")
    > > >
    > > > Notice that the describe table says:
    > > > "Publications:" and "Except Publications:"  (Uppercase "Publications")
    > > >
    > > > I think they should use a consistent case:
    > > > eg1. (both lowercase) Except tables; Except publications, OR
    > > > eg2. (bother uppercase) Except Tables; Except Publications
    > > >
    > >
    > > We should follow eg1. I checked few examples where we follow same
    > > pattern as eg1:
    > >
    > > Example-1: (See: "Tables from schemas")
    > >  postgres=# \dRp+ pub1
    > >                                                      Publication pub1
    > >  Owner | All tables | All sequences | Inserts | Updates | Deletes |
    > > Truncates | Generated columns | Via root | Description
    > > -------+------------+---------------+---------+---------+---------+-----------+-------------------+----------+-------------
    > >  amit  | f          | f             | t       | t       | t       | t
    > >        | none              | f        |
    > > Tables from schemas:
    > >     "sch1"
    > >
    > > Example-2: ((See: "No connections")
    > > postgres=# create user u1 CONNECTION LIMIT 0;
    > > CREATE ROLE
    > > postgres=# \du u1
    > >        List of roles
    > >  Role name |   Attributes
    > > -----------+----------------
    > >  u1        | No connections
    > >
    >
    > Hi Amit.
    >
    > Thanks for the advice.
    >
    > PSA patch v1 to change "Except Publications" to "Except publications".
    
    The commit message could be improved:
    Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 12:12:00 +1000
    Subject: [PATCH v1] describe table except publications
    
    ---
     src/bin/psql/describe.c                   | 2 +-
    
    Other than that, the patch looks good to me.
    
    Regards,
    Vignesh.
    
    
    
    
  5. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-13T05:23:48Z

    On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 1:21 PM vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    ...
    > The commit message could be improved:
    > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 12:12:00 +1000
    > Subject: [PATCH v1] describe table except publications
    >
    > ---
    >  src/bin/psql/describe.c                   | 2 +-
    >
    > Other than that, the patch looks good to me.
    >
    
    Hi Vignesh.
    
    Thanks for the review.
    
    PSA patch v2. It is the same as v1, but with an improved commit message,
    
    ======
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia
    
  6. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-14T00:03:47Z

    On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 3:23 PM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 1:21 PM vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > ...
    > > The commit message could be improved:
    > > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 12:12:00 +1000
    > > Subject: [PATCH v1] describe table except publications
    > >
    > > ---
    > >  src/bin/psql/describe.c                   | 2 +-
    > >
    > > Other than that, the patch looks good to me.
    > >
    >
    > Hi Vignesh.
    >
    > Thanks for the review.
    >
    > PSA patch v2. It is the same as v1, but with an improved commit message,
    >
    
    Hi Amit. Thanks for pushing.
    
    ======
    Kind Regards
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia
    
    
    
    
  7. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> — 2026-04-16T14:10:33Z

    On 2026-Apr-10, Peter Smith wrote:
    
    > # -- describe the tables
    > # \d t1
    >                 Table "public.t1"
    > Column | Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > a      | integer |           |          |
    > Except Publications:
    >   "pub1"
    
    I have a hard time understanding what an "except publication" is.  I
    think this would be clearer if the header said "Excluded from publications:"
    
    
    A footer section under a publication saying "Except tables" on the other
    hand is crystal clear.
    
    -- 
    Álvaro Herrera        Breisgau, Deutschland  —  https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
    
    
    
    
  8. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-16T23:03:38Z

    On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 12:10 AM Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> wrote:
    >
    > On 2026-Apr-10, Peter Smith wrote:
    >
    > > # -- describe the tables
    > > # \d t1
    > >                 Table "public.t1"
    > > Column | Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > > a      | integer |           |          |
    > > Except Publications:
    > >   "pub1"
    >
    > I have a hard time understanding what an "except publication" is.  I
    > think this would be clearer if the header said "Excluded from publications:"
    >
    
    I agree that your suggestion is clearer.
    
    If we make that change, then should the "Publications:" footer also be
    modified similarly (to "Included in publications:") so they match?
    
    e.g.
    
    CURRENTLY
    
    test_pub=# \d t1
                     Table "public.t1"
     Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
     a      | integer |           |          |
    Publications:
        "pub1"
        "pub2"
    Except publications:
        "pub3"
    
    ~~~
    
    SUGGESTION
    
    test_pub=# \d t1
                     Table "public.t1"
     Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
     a      | integer |           |          |
    Included in publications:
        "pub1"
        "pub2"
    Excluded from publications:
        "pub3"
    
    ~~~
    
    I will wait for more opinions/consensus before providing a patch.
    
    ======
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia
    
    
    
    
  9. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> — 2026-04-17T05:23:48Z

    On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 4:34 AM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 12:10 AM Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> wrote:
    > >
    > > On 2026-Apr-10, Peter Smith wrote:
    > >
    > > > # -- describe the tables
    > > > # \d t1
    > > >                 Table "public.t1"
    > > > Column | Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > > > a      | integer |           |          |
    > > > Except Publications:
    > > >   "pub1"
    > >
    > > I have a hard time understanding what an "except publication" is.  I
    > > think this would be clearer if the header said "Excluded from publications:"
    > >
    >
    > I agree that your suggestion is clearer.
    >
    > If we make that change, then should the "Publications:" footer also be
    > modified similarly (to "Included in publications:") so they match?
    >
    > e.g.
    >
    > CURRENTLY
    >
    > test_pub=# \d t1
    >                  Table "public.t1"
    >  Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    >  a      | integer |           |          |
    > Publications:
    >     "pub1"
    >     "pub2"
    > Except publications:
    >     "pub3"
    >
    > ~~~
    >
    > SUGGESTION
    >
    > test_pub=# \d t1
    >                  Table "public.t1"
    >  Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    >  a      | integer |           |          |
    > Included in publications:
    >     "pub1"
    >     "pub2"
    > Excluded from publications:
    >     "pub3"
    >
    > ~~~
    >
    
    +1 for the proposal. It makes the description clear.
    
    -- 
    With Regards,
    Amit Kapila.
    
    
    
    
  10. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-17T08:45:53Z

    On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 3:24 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 4:34 AM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 12:10 AM Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > On 2026-Apr-10, Peter Smith wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > # -- describe the tables
    > > > > # \d t1
    > > > >                 Table "public.t1"
    > > > > Column | Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > > > > a      | integer |           |          |
    > > > > Except Publications:
    > > > >   "pub1"
    > > >
    > > > I have a hard time understanding what an "except publication" is.  I
    > > > think this would be clearer if the header said "Excluded from publications:"
    > > >
    > >
    > > I agree that your suggestion is clearer.
    > >
    > > If we make that change, then should the "Publications:" footer also be
    > > modified similarly (to "Included in publications:") so they match?
    > >
    > > e.g.
    > >
    > > CURRENTLY
    > >
    > > test_pub=# \d t1
    > >                  Table "public.t1"
    > >  Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > >  a      | integer |           |          |
    > > Publications:
    > >     "pub1"
    > >     "pub2"
    > > Except publications:
    > >     "pub3"
    > >
    > > ~~~
    > >
    > > SUGGESTION
    > >
    > > test_pub=# \d t1
    > >                  Table "public.t1"
    > >  Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > >  a      | integer |           |          |
    > > Included in publications:
    > >     "pub1"
    > >     "pub2"
    > > Excluded from publications:
    > >     "pub3"
    > >
    > > ~~~
    > >
    >
    > +1 for the proposal. It makes the description clear.
    >
    
    OK. Thanks.
    
    Next question: am I only changing this for the table describe (\d)?
    
    I am asking because I noticed the schema describe (\dn) also has a
    footer called "Publications:".
    
    ----------
    test_pub=# CREATE PUBLICATION pub7 FOR TABLES IN SCHEMA my_schema;
    CREATE PUBLICATION
    test_pub=# \dn+ my_schema
                        List of schemas
       Name    |  Owner   | Access privileges | Description
    -----------+----------+-------------------+-------------
     my_schema | postgres |                   |
    Publications:
        "pub7"
    ----------
    
    Would you like this schema footer also changed to say "Included in
    publications:"?
    
    ======
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia
    
    
    
    
  11. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-20T02:56:40Z

    On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 3:24 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 4:34 AM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 12:10 AM Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > On 2026-Apr-10, Peter Smith wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > # -- describe the tables
    > > > > # \d t1
    > > > >                 Table "public.t1"
    > > > > Column | Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > > > > a      | integer |           |          |
    > > > > Except Publications:
    > > > >   "pub1"
    > > >
    > > > I have a hard time understanding what an "except publication" is.  I
    > > > think this would be clearer if the header said "Excluded from publications:"
    > > >
    > >
    > > I agree that your suggestion is clearer.
    > >
    > > If we make that change, then should the "Publications:" footer also be
    > > modified similarly (to "Included in publications:") so they match?
    > >
    > > e.g.
    > >
    > > CURRENTLY
    > >
    > > test_pub=# \d t1
    > >                  Table "public.t1"
    > >  Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > >  a      | integer |           |          |
    > > Publications:
    > >     "pub1"
    > >     "pub2"
    > > Except publications:
    > >     "pub3"
    > >
    > > ~~~
    > >
    > > SUGGESTION
    > >
    > > test_pub=# \d t1
    > >                  Table "public.t1"
    > >  Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > >  a      | integer |           |          |
    > > Included in publications:
    > >     "pub1"
    > >     "pub2"
    > > Excluded from publications:
    > >     "pub3"
    > >
    > > ~~~
    > >
    >
    > +1 for the proposal. It makes the description clear.
    >
    
    PSA  v3 patches.
    
    v3-0001 - Fixed the TABLE describe footer titles as suggested.
    - "Included in publications:"
    - "Excluded from publications:"
    
    v3-0002 - Made similar footer title changes for SEQUENCE describe
    
    v3-0003 - Made similar footer title changes for SHCEMA describe. In
    passing, I found that this \dn describe output was not even being
    tested, so I added the missing regression test.
    
    ======
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia.
    
  12. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com> — 2026-04-20T05:04:47Z

    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 at 08:27, Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 3:24 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 4:34 AM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 12:10 AM Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > On 2026-Apr-10, Peter Smith wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > # -- describe the tables
    > > > > > # \d t1
    > > > > >                 Table "public.t1"
    > > > > > Column | Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > > > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > > > > > a      | integer |           |          |
    > > > > > Except Publications:
    > > > > >   "pub1"
    > > > >
    > > > > I have a hard time understanding what an "except publication" is.  I
    > > > > think this would be clearer if the header said "Excluded from publications:"
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > I agree that your suggestion is clearer.
    > > >
    > > > If we make that change, then should the "Publications:" footer also be
    > > > modified similarly (to "Included in publications:") so they match?
    > > >
    > > > e.g.
    > > >
    > > > CURRENTLY
    > > >
    > > > test_pub=# \d t1
    > > >                  Table "public.t1"
    > > >  Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > > >  a      | integer |           |          |
    > > > Publications:
    > > >     "pub1"
    > > >     "pub2"
    > > > Except publications:
    > > >     "pub3"
    > > >
    > > > ~~~
    > > >
    > > > SUGGESTION
    > > >
    > > > test_pub=# \d t1
    > > >                  Table "public.t1"
    > > >  Column |  Type   | Collation | Nullable | Default
    > > > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
    > > >  a      | integer |           |          |
    > > > Included in publications:
    > > >     "pub1"
    > > >     "pub2"
    > > > Excluded from publications:
    > > >     "pub3"
    > > >
    > > > ~~~
    > > >
    > >
    > > +1 for the proposal. It makes the description clear.
    > >
    >
    > PSA  v3 patches.
    >
    > v3-0001 - Fixed the TABLE describe footer titles as suggested.
    > - "Included in publications:"
    > - "Excluded from publications:"
    >
    > v3-0002 - Made similar footer title changes for SEQUENCE describe
    >
    > v3-0003 - Made similar footer title changes for SHCEMA describe. In
    > passing, I found that this \dn describe output was not even being
    > tested, so I added the missing regression test.
    
    I'm not sure separate patches are necessary for this change; it might
    be better to merge them into a single patch. Other than that, the
    changes look good.
    
    Regards,
    Vignesh
    
    
    
    
  13. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-20T06:46:09Z

    > >
    > > PSA  v3 patches.
    > >
    > > v3-0001 - Fixed the TABLE describe footer titles as suggested.
    > > - "Included in publications:"
    > > - "Excluded from publications:"
    > >
    > > v3-0002 - Made similar footer title changes for SEQUENCE describe
    > >
    > > v3-0003 - Made similar footer title changes for SHCEMA describe. In
    > > passing, I found that this \dn describe output was not even being
    > > tested, so I added the missing regression test.
    >
    > I'm not sure separate patches are necessary for this change; it might
    > be better to merge them into a single patch. Other than that, the
    > changes look good.
    >
    
    I separated them because only the changes to TABLE \d had previously
    been discussed.
    
    If everyone thinks all changes are good, then I can combine them into one patch.
    
    ======
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia.
    
    
    
    
  14. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Yuchen Li <liyuchen_xyz@163.com> — 2026-04-20T08:49:35Z

    On 4/20/2026 2:46 PM, Peter Smith wrote:
    >>> PSA  v3 patches.
    >>>
    >>> v3-0001 - Fixed the TABLE describe footer titles as suggested.
    >>> - "Included in publications:"
    >>> - "Excluded from publications:"
    >>>
    >>> v3-0002 - Made similar footer title changes for SEQUENCE describe
    >>>
    >>> v3-0003 - Made similar footer title changes for SHCEMA describe. In
    >>> passing, I found that this \dn describe output was not even being
    >>> tested, so I added the missing regression test.
    >> I'm not sure separate patches are necessary for this change; it might
    >> be better to merge them into a single patch. Other than that, the
    >> changes look good.
    >>
    > I separated them because only the changes to TABLE \d had previously
    > been discussed.
    >
    > If everyone thinks all changes are good, then I can combine them into one patch.
    >
    > ======
    > Kind Regards,
    > Peter Smith.
    > Fujitsu Australia.
    >
    While reviewing 0003, I noticed a formatting issue in the following line:
    
    +             * schema mapping count +  1 (for storing NULL).
    
    There is an extra space after "count +".
    
    Regards,
    Yuchen Li
    
    
    
    
    
  15. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-21T06:45:58Z

    On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 6:50 PM Yuchen Li <liyuchen_xyz@163.com> wrote:
    >
    > On 4/20/2026 2:46 PM, Peter Smith wrote:
    > >>> PSA  v3 patches.
    > >>>
    > >>> v3-0001 - Fixed the TABLE describe footer titles as suggested.
    > >>> - "Included in publications:"
    > >>> - "Excluded from publications:"
    > >>>
    > >>> v3-0002 - Made similar footer title changes for SEQUENCE describe
    > >>>
    > >>> v3-0003 - Made similar footer title changes for SHCEMA describe. In
    > >>> passing, I found that this \dn describe output was not even being
    > >>> tested, so I added the missing regression test.
    > >> I'm not sure separate patches are necessary for this change; it might
    > >> be better to merge them into a single patch. Other than that, the
    > >> changes look good.
    > >>
    > > I separated them because only the changes to TABLE \d had previously
    > > been discussed.
    > >
    > > If everyone thinks all changes are good, then I can combine them into one patch.
    > >
    > > ======
    > > Kind Regards,
    > > Peter Smith.
    > > Fujitsu Australia.
    > >
    > While reviewing 0003, I noticed a formatting issue in the following line:
    >
    > +             * schema mapping count +  1 (for storing NULL).
    >
    > There is an extra space after "count +".
    >
    
    PSA v4, now combined as Vignesh suggested, and with the extra space also fixed.
    
    ======
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia.
    
  16. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> — 2026-04-22T11:27:10Z

    On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 12:16 PM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > PSA v4, now combined as Vignesh suggested, and with the extra space also fixed.
    >
    
    I would like to explicitly mention in the commit message that "Tag for
    included publications was a pre-existing behavior but it is better to
    change it for making it consistent with excluded publications tag. So,
    how about a commit message as follows: "psql: Improve describe footer
    titles for publications.
    
    The psql describe (`\d`) footer titles were previously unintuitive
    when listing publications that included or excluded specific tables.
    Even though the tag for included publications was pre-existing, it is
    better to update it to "Included in publications:" to match the
    phrasing of the "Excluded from publications:" tag.
    
    Footer titles for sequence and schema descriptions have been updated
    similarly to maintain consistency."
    
    -- 
    With Regards,
    Amit Kapila.
    
    
    
    
  17. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> — 2026-04-23T00:34:27Z

    On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 9:27 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 12:16 PM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > PSA v4, now combined as Vignesh suggested, and with the extra space also fixed.
    > >
    >
    > I would like to explicitly mention in the commit message that "Tag for
    > included publications was a pre-existing behavior but it is better to
    > change it for making it consistent with excluded publications tag. So,
    > how about a commit message as follows: "psql: Improve describe footer
    > titles for publications.
    >
    > The psql describe (`\d`) footer titles were previously unintuitive
    > when listing publications that included or excluded specific tables.
    > Even though the tag for included publications was pre-existing, it is
    > better to update it to "Included in publications:" to match the
    > phrasing of the "Excluded from publications:" tag.
    >
    > Footer titles for sequence and schema descriptions have been updated
    > similarly to maintain consistency."
    >
    > --
    
    OK, but the order what happened was a bit different.
    
    1/ Firstly, it was only the "Except publications:" footer for \d that
    was unintuitive. So that was updated to "Excluded from publications:".
    2/ The pre-existing "Publications:" was intuitive as-is, but it was
    updated to better match wording of 1.
    3/ Then footer titles for sequence/schema were updated same
    
    So maybe reword it slightly something like below:
    
    SUGGESTION
    
    The psql describe (`\d`) footer title was previously unintuitive when listing
    publications that excluded specific tables. This has been fixed to say
    "Excluded from publications:".
    
    The pre-existing footer title for listing publications that include specific
    tables has also been modified to to better match that phrasing. Now it says
    "Included in publications:".
    
    Footer titles for sequence and schema descriptions have been updated
    similarly to maintain consistency.
    
    ======
    Kind Regards,
    Peter Smith.
    Fujitsu Australia
    
    
    
    
  18. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> — 2026-04-23T09:00:08Z

    On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 6:04 AM Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > I would like to explicitly mention in the commit message that "Tag for
    > > included publications was a pre-existing behavior but it is better to
    > > change it for making it consistent with excluded publications tag. So,
    > > how about a commit message as follows: "psql: Improve describe footer
    > > titles for publications.
    > >
    > > The psql describe (`\d`) footer titles were previously unintuitive
    > > when listing publications that included or excluded specific tables.
    > > Even though the tag for included publications was pre-existing, it is
    > > better to update it to "Included in publications:" to match the
    > > phrasing of the "Excluded from publications:" tag.
    > >
    > > Footer titles for sequence and schema descriptions have been updated
    > > similarly to maintain consistency."
    > >
    > > --
    >
    > OK, but the order what happened was a bit different.
    >
    
    Pushed.
    
    -- 
    With Regards,
    Amit Kapila.
    
    
    
    
  19. Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

    Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> — 2026-04-23T10:33:53Z

    On 2026-Apr-23, Amit Kapila wrote:
    
    > Pushed.
    
    Thank you!
    
    -- 
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