Re: Parallel Append implementation

Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>

From: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
To: Amit Khandekar <amitdkhan.pg@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Rafia Sabih <rafia.sabih@enterprisedb.com>, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>, Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2017-09-11T13:25:19Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Amit Khandekar <amitdkhan.pg@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8 September 2017 at 19:17, Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In that case, why can't we keep the workers also process in same
>> order, what is the harm in that?
>
> Because of the way the logic of queuing works, the workers finish
> earlier if they start with expensive plans first. For e.g. : with 3
> plans with costs 8, 4, 4 and with 2 workers w1 and w2, they will
> finish in 8 time units (w1 will finish plan 1 in 8, while in parallel
> w2 will finish the remaining 2 plans in 8 units.  Whereas if the plans
> are ordered like : 4, 4, 8, then the workers will finish in 12 time
> units (w1 and w2 will finish each of the 1st two plans in 4 units, and
> then w1 or w2 will take up plan 3 and finish in 8 units, while the
> other worker remains idle).
>

I think the patch stores only non-partial paths in decreasing order,
what if partial paths having more costs follows those paths?

>
>>
>> Few more comments:
>>
>> 1.
>> + else if (IsA(subpath, MergeAppendPath))
>> + {
>> + MergeAppendPath *mpath = (MergeAppendPath *) subpath;
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * If at all MergeAppend is partial, all its child plans have to be
>> + * partial : we don't currently support a mix of partial and
>> + * non-partial MergeAppend subpaths.
>> + */
>> + if (is_partial)
>> + return list_concat(partial_subpaths, list_copy(mpath->subpaths));
>>
>> In which situation partial MergeAppendPath is generated?  Can you
>> provide one example of such path?
>
> Actually currently we don't support partial paths for MergeAppendPath.
> That code just has that if condition (is_partial) but currently that
> condition won't be true for MergeAppendPath.
>

I think then it is better to have Assert for MergeAppend.  It is
generally not a good idea to add code which we can never hit.

>>
>> 2.
>> add_paths_to_append_rel()
..
>>
>> I think it might be better to add a sentence why we choose a different
>> way to decide a number of workers in the second case
>> (non-parallel-aware append).
>
> Yes, I agree. Will do that after we conclude with your next point below ...
>
>> Do you think non-parallel-aware Append
>> will be better in any case when there is a parallel-aware append?  I
>> mean to say let's try to create non-parallel-aware append only when
>> parallel-aware append is not possible.
>
> By non-parallel-aware append, I am assuming you meant  partial
> non-parallel-aware Append. Yes, if the parallel-aware Append path has
> *all* partial subpaths chosen, then we do omit a partial non-parallel
> Append path, as seen in this code in the patch :
>
> /*
> * Consider non-parallel partial append path. But if the parallel append
> * path is made out of all partial subpaths, don't create another partial
> * path; we will keep only the parallel append path in that case.
> */
> if (partial_subpaths_valid && !pa_all_partial_subpaths)
> {
> ......
> }
>
> But if the parallel-Append path has a mix of partial and non-partial
> subpaths, then we can't really tell which of the two could be cheapest
> until we calculate the cost. It can be that the non-parallel-aware
> partial Append can be cheaper as well.
>

How?  See, if you have four partial subpaths and two non-partial
subpaths, then for parallel-aware append it considers all six paths in
parallel path whereas for non-parallel-aware append it will consider
just four paths and that too with sub-optimal strategy.  Can you
please try to give me some example so that it will be clear.

>>
>> 4.
>> -  select count(*) from a_star;
>> -select count(*) from a_star;
>> +  select round(avg(aa)), sum(aa) from a_star;
>> +select round(avg(aa)), sum(aa) from a_star;
>>
>> Why you have changed the existing test. It seems count(*) will also
>> give what you are expecting.
>
> Needed to do cover some data testing with Parallel Append execution.
>

Okay.

One more thing, I think you might want to update comment atop
add_paths_to_append_rel to reflect the new type of parallel-aware
append path being generated. In particular, I am referring to below
part of the comment:

 * Similarly it collects partial paths from
 * non-dummy children to create partial append paths.
 */
static void
add_paths_to_append_rel()


-- 
With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com


Commits

  1. Update parallel.sgml for Parallel Append

  2. Support Parallel Append plan nodes.

  3. Remove BufFile's isTemp flag.

  4. Improve comments for parallel executor estimation functions.

  5. Separate reinitialization of shared parallel-scan state from ExecReScan.

  6. Eat XIDs more efficiently in recovery TAP test.

  7. Avoid syntax error on platforms that have neither LOCALE_T nor ICU.

  8. Preparatory refactoring for parallel merge join support.