Re: BitmapHeapScan streaming read user and prelim refactoring
Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 4:53 AM Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com> wrote: > Two observations: > > * The combine limit seems to have negligible impact. There's no visible > difference between combine_limit=8kB and 128kB. > > * Parallel queries seem to work about the same as master (especially for > optimal cases, but even for not optimal ones). > > > The optimal plans with kernel readahead (two charts in the first row) > look fairly good. There are a couple regressed cases, but a bunch of > faster ones too. Thanks for doing this! > The optimal plans without kernel read ahead (two charts in the second > row) perform pretty poorly - there are massive regressions. But I think > the obvious reason is that the streaming read API skips prefetches for > sequential access patterns, relying on kernel to do the readahead. But > if the kernel readahead is disabled for the device, that obviously can't > happen ... Right, it does seem that this whole concept is sensitive on the 'borderline' between sequential and random, and this patch changes that a bit and we lose some. It's becoming much clearer to me that master is already exposing weird kinks, and the streaming version is mostly better, certainly on low IOPS systems. I suspect that there must be queries in the wild that would run much faster with eic=0 than eic=1 today due to that, and while the streaming version also loses in some cases, it seems that it mostly loses because of not triggering RA, which can at least be improved by increasing the RA window. On the flip side, master is more prone to running out of IOPS and there is no way to tune your way out of that. > I think the question is how much we can (want to) rely on the readahead > to be done by the kernel. ... We already rely on it everywhere, for basic things like sequential scan. > ... Maybe there should be some flag to force > issuing fadvise even for sequential patterns, perhaps at the tablespace > level? ... Yeah, I've wondered about trying harder to "second guess" the Linux RA. At the moment, read_stream.c detects *exactly* sequential reads (see seq_blocknum) to suppress advice, but if we knew/guessed the RA window size, we could (1) detect it with the same window that Linux will use to detect it, and (2) [new realisation from yesterday's testing] we could even "tickle" it to wake it up in certain cases where it otherwise wouldn't, by temporarily using a smaller io_combine_limit if certain patterns come along. I think that sounds like madness (I suspect that any place where the latter would help is a place where you could turn RA up a bit higher for the same effect without weird kludges), or another way to put it would be to call it "overfitting" to the pre-existing quirks; but maybe it's a future research idea... > I don't recall seeing a system with disabled readahead, but I'm > sure there are cases where it may not really work - it clearly can't > work with direct I/O, ... Right, for direct I/O everything is slow right now including seq scan. We need to start asynchronous reads in the background (imagine literally just a bunch of background "I/O workers" running preadv() on your behalf to get your future buffers ready for you, or equivalently Linux io_uring). That's the real goal of this project: restructuring so we have the information we need to do that, ie teach every part of PostgreSQL to predict the future in a standard and centralised way. Should work out better than RA heuristics, because we're not just driving in a straight line, we can turn corners too. > ... but I've also not been very successful with > prefetching on ZFS. posix_favise() did not do anything in OpenZFS before 2.2, maybe you have an older version? > I certainly admit the data sets are synthetic and perhaps adversarial. > My intent was to cover a wide range of data sets, to trigger even less > common cases. It's certainly up to debate how serious the regressions on > those data sets are in practice, I'm not suggesting "this strange data > set makes it slower than master, so we can't commit this". Right, yeah. Thanks! Your initial results seemed discouraging, but looking closer I'm starting to feel a lot more positive about streaming BHS.
Commits
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Fix bitmapheapscan incorrect recheck of NULL tuples
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Increase default maintenance_io_concurrency to 16
- cc6be07ebde2 18.0 landed
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Separate TBM[Shared|Private]Iterator and TBMIterateResult
- 944e81bf99db 18.0 landed
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Improve read_stream.c advice for dense streams.
- 7ea8cd15661e 18.0 landed
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Increase default effective_io_concurrency to 16
- ff79b5b2aba0 18.0 landed
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Delay extraction of TIDBitmap per page offsets
- bfe56cdf9a4e 18.0 landed
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Add lossy indicator to TBMIterateResult
- b8778c4cd8bc 18.0 landed
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Move BitmapTableScan per-scan setup into a helper
- a5358c14b2fe 18.0 landed
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Add and use BitmapHeapScanDescData struct
- f7a8fc10ccb8 18.0 landed
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Fix bitmap table scan crash on iterator release
- 754c610e13b8 18.0 landed
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Bitmap Table Scans use unified TBMIterator
- 1a0da347a7ac 18.0 landed
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Add common interface for TBMIterators
- 7f9d4187e7ba 18.0 landed
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Make table_scan_bitmap_next_block() async-friendly
- de380a62b5da 18.0 landed
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Move EXPLAIN counter increment to heapam_scan_bitmap_next_block
- 7bd7aa4d3067 18.0 landed
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Refactor tidstore.c iterator buffering.
- f6bef362cac8 18.0 cited
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BitmapHeapScan: Remove incorrect assert and reset field
- a3e6c6f92991 17.0 landed
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Change BitmapAdjustPrefetchIterator to accept BlockNumber
- 92641d8d651e 17.0 landed
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BitmapHeapScan: Use correct recheck flag for skip_fetch
- 1fdb0ce9b109 17.0 landed
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BitmapHeapScan: Push skip_fetch optimization into table AM
- 04e72ed617be 17.0 landed
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BitmapHeapScan: postpone setting can_skip_fetch
- fe1431e39cdd 17.0 landed
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BitmapHeapScan: begin scan after bitmap creation
- 1577081e9614 17.0 landed
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Fix EXPLAIN Bitmap heap scan to count pages with no visible tuples
- f3e4581acdc8 12.19 landed
- 992189a3e94d 13.15 landed
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- d3d95f583995 15.7 landed
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Remove redundant snapshot copying from parallel leader to workers
- 84c18acaf690 17.0 landed
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Remove some obsolete smgrcloseall() calls.
- 6a8ffe812d19 17.0 cited
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Remove the "snapshot too old" feature.
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Compute XID horizon for page level index vacuum on primary.
- 558a9165e081 12.0 cited