Re: Windows default locale vs initdb

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 10:27 PM Juan José Santamaría Flecha
<juanjo.santamaria@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 4:47 AM Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> wrote:
>> As for whether "accordingly" still applies, by the logic of of
>> win32_langinfo()...  Windows still considers WIN1252 to be the default
>> ANSI code page for "en-US", though it'd work with UTF-8 too.  I'm not
>> sure what to make of that.  The goal here was to give Windows users
>> good defaults, but WIN1252 is probably not what most people actually
>> want.  Hmph.
>
>
> Still, WIN1252 is not the wrong answer for what we are asking. Even if you enable UTF-8 support [1], the system will use the current default Windows ANSI code page (ACP) for the locale and UTF-8 for the code page.

I'm still confused about what that means.  Suppose we decided to
insist by adding a ".UTF-8" suffix to the name, as that page says we
can now that we're on Windows 10+, when building the default locale
name (see experimental 0002 patch, attached).  It initially seemed to
have the right effect:

The database cluster will be initialized with locale "en-US.UTF-8".
The default database encoding has accordingly been set to "UTF8".
The default text search configuration will be set to "english".

But then the Turkish i test in contrib/citext/sql/citext_utf8.sql failed[1]:

SELECT 'i'::citext = 'İ'::citext AS t;
 t
 ---
- t
+ f
 (1 row)

About the pg_upgrade problem, maybe it's OK ... existing old format
names should continue to work, but we can still remove the weird code
that does locale name tweaking, right?  pg_upgraded databases should
contain fixed names (ie that were fixed by old initdb so should
continue to work), and new clusters will get BCP 47 names.

I don't really know, I was just playing with rough ideas by sending
patches to CI here...

[1] https://cirrus-ci.com/task/6423238052937728