Re: synchronized snapshots

Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
To: Joachim Wieland <joe@mcknight.de>
Cc: Jim Nasby <jim@nasby.net>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2011-08-16T13:59:04Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Joachim Wieland <joe@mcknight.de> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jim Nasby <jim@nasby.net> wrote:
>> I suspect that all the other cases of BEGIN failing would be syntax errors, so
>> you would immediately know in testing that something was wrong. A missing file
>> is definitely not a syntax error, so we can't really depend on user testing to ensure
>> this is handled correctly. IMO, that makes it critical that that error puts us in an
>> aborted transaction.
>
> Why can we not just require the user to verify if his BEGIN query
> failed or succeeded?
> Is that really too much to ask for?
>
> Also see what Robert wrote about proxies in between that keep track of
> the transaction
> state. Consider they see a BEGIN query that fails. How would they know
> if the session
> is now in an aborted transaction or not in a transaction at all?

I think the point here is that we should be consistent.  Currently,
you can make BEGIN fail by doing it on the standby, and asking for
READ WRITE mode:

rhaas=# begin transaction read write;
ERROR:  cannot set transaction read-write mode during recovery

After doing that, you are NOT in a transaction context:

rhaas=# select 1;
 ?column?
----------
        1
(1 row)

So whatever this does should be consistent with that, at least IMHO.

-- 
Robert Haas
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