Re: On disable_cost

Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
To: David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>, Zhenghua Lyu <zlyu@vmware.com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
Date: 2024-04-04T18:02:42Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 11:09 PM David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 10:15, David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In short, I don't find it strange that disabling one node type results
> > in considering another type that we'd otherwise not consider in cases
> > where we assume that the disabled node type is always superior and
> > should always be used when it is possible.
>
> In addition to what I said earlier, I think the current
> enable_indexonlyscan is implemented in a way that has the planner do
> what it did before IOS was added.  I think that goal makes sense with
> any patch that make the planner try something new. We want to have
> some method to get the previous behaviour for the cases where the
> planner makes a dumb choice or to avoid some bug in the new feature.

I see the logic of this, and I agree that the resulting behavior might
be more intuitive than what I posted before. I'll do some experiments.

> I think using that logic, the current scenario with enable_indexscan
> and enable_indexonlyscan makes complete sense. I mean, including
> enable_indexscan=0 adding disable_cost to IOS Paths.

This, for me, is a bridge too far. I don't think there's a real
argument that "what the planner did before IOS was added" was add
disable_cost to the cost of index-only scan paths. There was no such
path type. Independently of that argument, I also think the behavior
of a setting needs to be something that a user can understand. Right
now, the documentation says:

Enables or disables the query planner's use of index-scan plan types.
The default is on.
Enables or disables the query planner's use of index-only-scan plan
types (see Section 11.9). The default is on.

I do not think that a user can be expected to guess from these
descriptions that the first one also affects index-only scans, or that
the two GUCs disable their respective plan types in completely
different ways. Granted, the latter inconsistency affects a whole
bunch of these settings, not just this one, but still.

--
Robert Haas
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com



Commits

  1. Doc: add detail about EXPLAIN's "Disabled" property

  2. Adjust EXPLAIN's output for disabled nodes

  3. Fix order of parameters in a cost_sort call

  4. Show number of disabled nodes in EXPLAIN ANALYZE output.

  5. Treat number of disabled nodes in a path as a separate cost metric.

  6. Remove grotty use of disable_cost for TID scan plans.