Re: [Proposal] Fully WAL logged CREATE DATABASE - No Checkpoints

Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
To: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Cc: Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
Date: 2021-06-17T17:53:38Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 5:20 AM Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi> wrote:
> You only need relpersistence if you want to use the buffer cache, right?
> I think that's a good argument for not using it.

I think the root of the problem with this feature is that it doesn't
go through shared_buffers, so in my opinion, it would be better if we
can make it all go through shared_buffers. It seems like you're
advocating a middle ground where half of the operation goes through
shared_buffers and the other half doesn't, but that sounds like
getting rid of half of the hack when we could have gotten rid of all
of it. I think things that don't go through shared_buffers are bad,
and we should be making an effort to get rid of them where we can
reasonably do so. I believe I've both introduced and fixed my share of
bugs that were caused by such cases, and I think the behavior of the
whole system would be a lot easier to reason about if we had fewer of
those, or none.

I can also think of at least one significant advantage of driving this
off the remote database's pg_class rather than the filesystem
contents. It's a known defect of PostgreSQL that if you create a table
and then crash, you leave behind a dead file that never gets removed.
If you now copy the database that contains that orphaned file, you
would ideally prefer not to copy that file, but if you do a copy based
on the filesystem contents, then you will. If you drive the copy off
of pg_class, you won't.

-- 
Robert Haas
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com



Commits

  1. When using the WAL-logged CREATE DATABASE strategy, bulk extend.

  2. Avoid using a fake relcache entry to own an SmgrRelation.

  3. Fix data-corruption hazard in WAL-logged CREATE DATABASE.

  4. initdb: When running CREATE DATABASE, use STRATEGY = WAL_COPY.

  5. Simplify a needlessly-complicated regular expression.

  6. In 020_createdb.pl, change order of command-line arguments.

  7. Add new block-by-block strategy for CREATE DATABASE.

  8. Fix replay of create database records on standby

  9. Refactor code for reading and writing relation map files.

  10. Replace RelationOpenSmgr() with RelationGetSmgr().

  11. Refactor the fsync queue for wider use.