Re: PG 18 relnotes and RC1

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 12:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:
> > I like Nathan's version better. I suggest we go with that one.
>
> Why? This seems arbitrary without more details.
>
> I’ve spent the past several weeks staring at the release notes, talking to users, and putting together a presentation on it that was delivered last night, also culminating in the press release. I put a lot of effort into researching what to highlight up top, which is augmented in the release details itself. Additionally I started from what Nathan had and tweaked a few items.

That seems completely backwards to me. We should go with the version
that was submitted weeks ago and upon which people have had the
opportunity to comment unless you can justify each change that you now
want to make at the last minute. Why for example should we drop
mentioning the ability to return OLD.* and NEW.* in favor of mentioned
UUIDv7? I'd argue that the former is more important than the latter,
and I don't see how you can argue otherwise except by appealing to the
research you've done over the last several weeks. But none of us have
access to that or got a vote in it. These things ought to be decided
by consensus. If you want your research to feed into the building of
that consensus, you need to do it and present it earlier. For example,
if you want to present survey results, I think that's a great way to
help decide these kinds of things, but then other people should have
the right to present their own survey results and so on in that
conversation too.

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Robert Haas
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