Re: Possibility to disable `ALTER SYSTEM`
Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>,
Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>,
Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>, Joel Jacobson <joel@compiler.org>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>, Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele.bartolini@enterprisedb.com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus.hagander@redpill-linpro.com>,
Maciek Sakrejda <m.sakrejda@gmail.com>
Date: 2024-03-25T18:13:21Z
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Add allow_alter_system GUC.
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Rename COMPAT_OPTIONS_CLIENT to COMPAT_OPTIONS_OTHER.
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Remove support for version-0 calling conventions.
- 5ded4bd21403 10.0 cited
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 1:47 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > FWIW, I never objected to the idea of being able to disable ALTER > SYSTEM. I felt that it ought to be part of a larger feature that > would provide a more bulletproof guarantee that a superuser can't > alter the system configuration; but I'm clearly in the minority > on that. I'm content with just having it disable ALTER SYSTEM > and no more, as long as the documentation is sufficiently clear > that an uncooperative superuser can easily bypass this if you don't > back it up with filesystem-level controls. OK, great. The latest patch doesn't specifically talk about backing it up with filesystem-level controls, but it does clearly say that this feature is not going to stop a determined superuser from bypassing the feature, which I think is the appropriate level of detail. We don't actually know whether a user has filesystem-level controls available on their system that are equal to the task; certainly chmod isn't good enough, unless you can prevent the superuser from just running chmod again, which you probably can't. An FS-level immutable flag or some other kind of OS-level wizardry might well get the job done, but I don't think our documentation needs to speculate about that. -- Robert Haas EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com