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  1. Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2024-12-20T23:51:42Z

    Hi,

I'd like to propose the implementation of the XMLNamespaces option for
XMLElement.

XMLNAMESPACES(nsuri AS nsprefix)
XMLNAMESPACES(DEFAULT default-nsuri)
XMLNAMESPACES(NO DEFAULT)

* nsprefix:              Namespace's prefix.
* nsuri:                 Namespace's URI.
* DEFAULT default-nsuri: Specifies the DEFAULT namespace to use within
the scope of a namespace declaration.
* NO DEFAULT:            Specifies that NO DEFAULT namespace is to be
used within the scope of a namespace declaration.

This basically works pretty much like XMLAttributes, but with a few more
restrictions (see SQL/XML:2023, 11.2 <XML lexically scoped options>):

* XML namespace declaration shall contain at most one DEFAULT namespace
declaration item.
* No namespace prefix shall be equivalent to xml or xmlns.
* No namespace URI shall be identical to http://www.w3.org/2000/xmlns/
or to http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace.
* The value of a namespace URI contained in an regular namespace
declaration item (no DEFAULT) shall not be a zero-length string.

Examples:

SELECT xmlelement(NAME "foo", xmlnamespaces('http://x.y' AS bar));
          xmlelement           
-------------------------------
 <foo xmlns:bar="http://x.y"/>

SELECT xmlelement(NAME "foo", xmlnamespaces(DEFAULT 'http://x.y'));
        xmlelement         
---------------------------
 <foo xmlns="http://x.y"/>

SELECT xmlelement(NAME "foo", xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT));
   xmlelement    
-----------------
 <foo xmlns=""/>

In transformXmlExpr() it seemed convenient to use the same parameters to
store the prefixes and URIs as in XMLAttributes (arg_names and
named_args), but I am still not so sure it is the right approach. Is
there perhaps a better way?

Any thoughts? Feedback welcome!

Best, Jim

  2. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> — 2024-12-21T05:57:04Z

    Hi

so 21. 12. 2024 v 0:51 odesílatel Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de>
napsal:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to propose the implementation of the XMLNamespaces option for
> XMLElement.
>
> XMLNAMESPACES(nsuri AS nsprefix)
> XMLNAMESPACES(DEFAULT default-nsuri)
> XMLNAMESPACES(NO DEFAULT)
>
> * nsprefix:              Namespace's prefix.
> * nsuri:                 Namespace's URI.
> * DEFAULT default-nsuri: Specifies the DEFAULT namespace to use within
> the scope of a namespace declaration.
> * NO DEFAULT:            Specifies that NO DEFAULT namespace is to be
> used within the scope of a namespace declaration.
>
> This basically works pretty much like XMLAttributes, but with a few more
> restrictions (see SQL/XML:2023, 11.2 <XML lexically scoped options>):
>
> * XML namespace declaration shall contain at most one DEFAULT namespace
> declaration item.
> * No namespace prefix shall be equivalent to xml or xmlns.
> * No namespace URI shall be identical to http://www.w3.org/2000/xmlns/
> or to http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace.
> * The value of a namespace URI contained in an regular namespace
> declaration item (no DEFAULT) shall not be a zero-length string.
>
> Examples:
>
> SELECT xmlelement(NAME "foo", xmlnamespaces('http://x.y' AS bar));
>           xmlelement
> -------------------------------
>  <foo xmlns:bar="http://x.y"/>
>
> SELECT xmlelement(NAME "foo", xmlnamespaces(DEFAULT 'http://x.y'));
>         xmlelement
> ---------------------------
>  <foo xmlns="http://x.y"/>
>
> SELECT xmlelement(NAME "foo", xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT));
>    xmlelement
> -----------------
>  <foo xmlns=""/>
>
> In transformXmlExpr() it seemed convenient to use the same parameters to
> store the prefixes and URIs as in XMLAttributes (arg_names and
> named_args), but I am still not so sure it is the right approach. Is
> there perhaps a better way?
>
> Any thoughts? Feedback welcome!
>

+1

Pavel

>
> Best, Jim
>

  3. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Umar Hayat <postgresql.wizard@gmail.com> — 2024-12-26T04:15:36Z

    Hi,
+1 for the enhancement.

I haven't compiled and reviewed the full patch yet, please see a few
comments from my side based on static analysis.

1. Though changes are targeted for XMLNAMESPACES for XMLElement but in
my opinion it will affect XMLTABLE as well because the
'xml_namespace_list' rule is shared now.
Adding 'NO DEFAULT' in xml_namespace_list will allow users to use it
with XMLTABLE XMLNAMESPACES as well.PostgreSQL grammar allow to
specify DEFAULT in NAMESPACE but resulting in following error:
"ERROR:  DEFAULT namespace is not supported"
What would be behavior with this change for XMLTABLE, should this be
allowed and the error messages need to be updated (may be this will
not be an error at all) or we need to restrict users to not use 'NO
DEFAULT' with XMLTable.

2. Should we reuse the 'xml_namespaces' rule for XMLTable, as the
definition is the same.

3. In this patch 'NO DEFAULT' behavior is like DEFAULT '<blank>'
(empty uri) , should not it be more like 'DEFAULT NULL' to result in
the following ?
SELECT xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT));
    xmlelement
------------------
<root/>

instead of

SELECT xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT));
    xmlelement
------------------
<root xmlns=""/>

Regards
Umar Hayat

On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 at 14:57, Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> so 21. 12. 2024 v 0:51 odesílatel Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> napsal:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to propose the implementation of the XMLNamespaces option for
>> XMLElement.
>>
>> XMLNAMESPACES(nsuri AS nsprefix)
>> XMLNAMESPACES(DEFAULT default-nsuri)
>> XMLNAMESPACES(NO DEFAULT)
>>
>> * nsprefix:              Namespace's prefix.
>> * nsuri:                 Namespace's URI.
>> * DEFAULT default-nsuri: Specifies the DEFAULT namespace to use within
>> the scope of a namespace declaration.
>> * NO DEFAULT:            Specifies that NO DEFAULT namespace is to be
>> used within the scope of a namespace declaration.
>>
>> This basically works pretty much like XMLAttributes, but with a few more
>> restrictions (see SQL/XML:2023, 11.2 <XML lexically scoped options>):
>>
>> * XML namespace declaration shall contain at most one DEFAULT namespace
>> declaration item.
>> * No namespace prefix shall be equivalent to xml or xmlns.
>> * No namespace URI shall be identical to http://www.w3.org/2000/xmlns/
>> or to http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace.
>> * The value of a namespace URI contained in an regular namespace
>> declaration item (no DEFAULT) shall not be a zero-length string.
>>
>> Examples:
>>
>> SELECT xmlelement(NAME "foo", xmlnamespaces('http://x.y' AS bar));
>>           xmlelement
>> -------------------------------
>>  <foo xmlns:bar="http://x.y"/>
>>
>> SELECT xmlelement(NAME "foo", xmlnamespaces(DEFAULT 'http://x.y'));
>>         xmlelement
>> ---------------------------
>>  <foo xmlns="http://x.y"/>
>>
>> SELECT xmlelement(NAME "foo", xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT));
>>    xmlelement
>> -----------------
>>  <foo xmlns=""/>
>>
>> In transformXmlExpr() it seemed convenient to use the same parameters to
>> store the prefixes and URIs as in XMLAttributes (arg_names and
>> named_args), but I am still not so sure it is the right approach. Is
>> there perhaps a better way?
>>
>> Any thoughts? Feedback welcome!
>
>
> +1
>
> Pavel
>>
>>
>> Best, Jim



-- 
Umar Hayat
Bitnine (https://bitnine.net/)

  4. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2024-12-26T13:46:26Z

    Hi Umar, hi Pavel,

Thanks for taking a look at this patch!

On 26.12.24 05:15, Umar Hayat wrote:
> Hi,
> +1 for the enhancement.
>
> I haven't compiled and reviewed the full patch yet, please see a few
> comments from my side based on static analysis.
>
> 1. Though changes are targeted for XMLNAMESPACES for XMLElement but in
> my opinion it will affect XMLTABLE as well because the
> 'xml_namespace_list' rule is shared now.
> Adding 'NO DEFAULT' in xml_namespace_list will allow users to use it
> with XMLTABLE XMLNAMESPACES as well.PostgreSQL grammar allow to
> specify DEFAULT in NAMESPACE but resulting in following error:
> "ERROR:  DEFAULT namespace is not supported"

I also considered creating a new rule to avoid any conflict with
XMLTable, but as it didn't break any regression test and the result
would be pretty much the same as with "DEFAULT 'str'", I thought that
extending the existing rule would be the way to go.

SELECT * FROM XMLTABLE(XMLNAMESPACES(NO DEFAULT),
                      '/rows/row'
                      PASSING '<rows
xmlns="http://x.y"><row><a>10</a></row></rows>'
                      COLUMNS a int PATH 'a');
ERROR:  DEFAULT namespace is not supported

What do you think?


> What would be behavior with this change for XMLTABLE, should this be
> allowed and the error messages need to be updated (may be this will
> not be an error at all) or we need to restrict users to not use 'NO
> DEFAULT' with XMLTable.


Perhaps updating the error message would suffice?


>
> 2. Should we reuse the 'xml_namespaces' rule for XMLTable, as the
> definition is the same.


That would be good. I'm just afraid it would deviate a bit from the
scope of this patch - here I mean touching other function. Would you
suggest to add it to a patch series?

> 3. In this patch 'NO DEFAULT' behavior is like DEFAULT '<blank>'
> (empty uri) , should not it be more like 'DEFAULT NULL' to result in
> the following ?
> SELECT xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT));
>     xmlelement
> ------------------
> <root/>
>
> instead of
>
> SELECT xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT));
>     xmlelement
> ------------------
> <root xmlns=""/>
>
The idea of NO DEFAULT is pretty much to free an element (and its
children) from a previous DEFAULT in the same scope.

SELECT
  xmlserialize(DOCUMENT
    xmlelement(NAME "root",
      xmlnamespaces(DEFAULT 'http:/x.y/ns1'),
      xmlelement(NAME "foo",
        xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT))
  ) AS text INDENT);

         xmlserialize         
------------------------------
 <root xmlns="http:/x.y/ns1">+
   <foo xmlns=""/>           +
 </root>
(1 row)


I believe this behaviour might be confusing if NO DEFAULT is used in the
root element, as it there is no previously declared namespace. Perhaps
making NO DEFAULT behave like DEFAULT NULL only in the root element
would make things clearer? The SQL/XML spec doesn't say anything
specific about it, but DB2 had the same thought[1]. For reference, here
are the regress tests[2] of this patch tested with the DB2 implementation.

> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 at 14:57, Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> Pavel

rebase in v2 attached - due to changes in gram.y

Thanks a lot

Best, Jim

1 - https://dbfiddle.uk/0QsWlfZR
2 - https://dbfiddle.uk/SyiDfXod

  5. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> — 2024-12-31T17:03:59Z

    čt 26. 12. 2024 v 14:46 odesílatel Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de>
napsal:

> Hi Umar, hi Pavel,
>
> Thanks for taking a look at this patch!
>
> On 26.12.24 05:15, Umar Hayat wrote:
> > Hi,
> > +1 for the enhancement.
> >
> > I haven't compiled and reviewed the full patch yet, please see a few
> > comments from my side based on static analysis.
> >
> > 1. Though changes are targeted for XMLNAMESPACES for XMLElement but in
> > my opinion it will affect XMLTABLE as well because the
> > 'xml_namespace_list' rule is shared now.
> > Adding 'NO DEFAULT' in xml_namespace_list will allow users to use it
> > with XMLTABLE XMLNAMESPACES as well.PostgreSQL grammar allow to
> > specify DEFAULT in NAMESPACE but resulting in following error:
> > "ERROR:  DEFAULT namespace is not supported"
>
> I also considered creating a new rule to avoid any conflict with
> XMLTable, but as it didn't break any regression test and the result
> would be pretty much the same as with "DEFAULT 'str'", I thought that
> extending the existing rule would be the way to go.
>
> SELECT * FROM XMLTABLE(XMLNAMESPACES(NO DEFAULT),
>                       '/rows/row'
>                       PASSING '<rows
> xmlns="http://x.y"><row><a>10</a></row></rows>'
>                       COLUMNS a int PATH 'a');
> ERROR:  DEFAULT namespace is not supported
>
> What do you think?
>
>
> > What would be behavior with this change for XMLTABLE, should this be
> > allowed and the error messages need to be updated (may be this will
> > not be an error at all) or we need to restrict users to not use 'NO
> > DEFAULT' with XMLTable.
>
>
> Perhaps updating the error message would suffice?
>
>
> >
> > 2. Should we reuse the 'xml_namespaces' rule for XMLTable, as the
> > definition is the same.
>
>
> That would be good. I'm just afraid it would deviate a bit from the
> scope of this patch - here I mean touching other function. Would you
> suggest to add it to a patch series?
>
> > 3. In this patch 'NO DEFAULT' behavior is like DEFAULT '<blank>'
> > (empty uri) , should not it be more like 'DEFAULT NULL' to result in
> > the following ?
> > SELECT xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT));
> >     xmlelement
> > ------------------
> > <root/>
> >
> > instead of
> >
> > SELECT xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT));
> >     xmlelement
> > ------------------
> > <root xmlns=""/>
> >
> The idea of NO DEFAULT is pretty much to free an element (and its
> children) from a previous DEFAULT in the same scope.
>
> SELECT
>   xmlserialize(DOCUMENT
>     xmlelement(NAME "root",
>       xmlnamespaces(DEFAULT 'http:/x.y/ns1'),
>       xmlelement(NAME "foo",
>         xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT))
>   ) AS text INDENT);
>
>          xmlserialize
> ------------------------------
>  <root xmlns="http:/x.y/ns1">+
>    <foo xmlns=""/>           +
>  </root>
> (1 row)
>
>
> I believe this behaviour might be confusing if NO DEFAULT is used in the
> root element, as it there is no previously declared namespace. Perhaps
> making NO DEFAULT behave like DEFAULT NULL only in the root element
> would make things clearer? The SQL/XML spec doesn't say anything
> specific about it, but DB2 had the same thought[1]. For reference, here
> are the regress tests[2] of this patch tested with the DB2 implementation.
>

You can check Oracle too.


>
> > On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 at 14:57, Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Pavel
>
> rebase in v2 attached - due to changes in gram.y
>
>
I checked this patch

The parser part looks a little bit dirty - it multiplies numbers of
XMLELEMENT rules. Maybe xmlattributes and xml_namespaces can be processed
elsewhere like list of xml_element_options?

Regards

Pavel



> Thanks a lot
>
> Best, Jim
>
> 1 - https://dbfiddle.uk/0QsWlfZR
> 2 - https://dbfiddle.uk/SyiDfXod

  6. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-01-15T20:35:41Z

    Hi Umar, Hi Pavel,

On 26.12.24 14:46, Jim Jones wrote:
> The idea of NO DEFAULT is pretty much to free an element (and its
> children) from a previous DEFAULT in the same scope.
>
> SELECT
>   xmlserialize(DOCUMENT
>     xmlelement(NAME "root",
>       xmlnamespaces(DEFAULT 'http:/x.y/ns1'),
>       xmlelement(NAME "foo",
>         xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT))
>   ) AS text INDENT);
>
>          xmlserialize         
> ------------------------------
>  <root xmlns="http:/x.y/ns1">+
>    <foo xmlns=""/>           +
>  </root>
> (1 row)

v3 is attached, now using xmlTextWriterWriteAttributeNS from libxml2 for
managing XML namespaces, instead of using xmlTextWriterWriteAttribute.
Libxml2 is quite lenient, allowing the duplication of default namespaces
within the same scope and even permitting NO DEFAULT namespaces when no
previous DEFAULT declaration has been made - both are semantically valid.

The crux now is finding the appropriate balance between accuracy and
user intent. In the context of PostgreSQL's xmlelement and
xmlnamespaces, I would argue that explicitly declared namespaces,
redundant or not, ought to be preserved. A user who intentionally
repeats a namespace declaration might have sound reasons for doing so,
like ensuring clarity, preserving compatibility with external XML
processors, or sticking to a specific schema. Silently omitting these
declarations could lead to confusion.

Pavel has tidied up the parser modifications - it's looking much neater
now. Many thanks for that!

Best, Jim

  7. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> — 2025-01-16T07:36:52Z

    Hi

st 15. 1. 2025 v 21:35 odesílatel Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de>
napsal:

> Hi Umar, Hi Pavel,
>
> On 26.12.24 14:46, Jim Jones wrote:
> > The idea of NO DEFAULT is pretty much to free an element (and its
> > children) from a previous DEFAULT in the same scope.
> >
> > SELECT
> >   xmlserialize(DOCUMENT
> >     xmlelement(NAME "root",
> >       xmlnamespaces(DEFAULT 'http:/x.y/ns1'),
> >       xmlelement(NAME "foo",
> >         xmlnamespaces(NO DEFAULT))
> >   ) AS text INDENT);
> >
> >          xmlserialize
> > ------------------------------
> >  <root xmlns="http:/x.y/ns1">+
> >    <foo xmlns=""/>           +
> >  </root>
> > (1 row)
>
> v3 is attached, now using xmlTextWriterWriteAttributeNS from libxml2 for
> managing XML namespaces, instead of using xmlTextWriterWriteAttribute.
> Libxml2 is quite lenient, allowing the duplication of default namespaces
> within the same scope and even permitting NO DEFAULT namespaces when no
> previous DEFAULT declaration has been made - both are semantically valid.
>
> The crux now is finding the appropriate balance between accuracy and
> user intent. In the context of PostgreSQL's xmlelement and
> xmlnamespaces, I would argue that explicitly declared namespaces,
> redundant or not, ought to be preserved. A user who intentionally
> repeats a namespace declaration might have sound reasons for doing so,
> like ensuring clarity, preserving compatibility with external XML
> processors, or sticking to a specific schema. Silently omitting these
> declarations could lead to confusion.
>
>
Now, I have not any objections against the code

The patch has doc and enough regress tests
The patching and compilation without problems
make check-world passed

I'll mark this patch as ready for committer




> Pavel has tidied up the parser modifications - it's looking much neater
> now. Many thanks for that!
>

It was a pleasure

Regards

Pavel

>
> Best, Jim
>
>

  8. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-01-19T09:33:55Z

    On 16.01.25 08:36, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> Now, I have not any objections against the code
>
> The patch has doc and enough regress tests
> The patching and compilation without problems
> make check-world passed
>
> I'll mark this patch as ready for committer


rebase due to gram.y changes introduced in 80feb72


-- 
Jim

  9. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Umar Hayat <postgresql.wizard@gmail.com> — 2025-01-20T16:19:06Z

    Hi Jim & Pavel,
Sorry for getting back a bit late on this. Few more case you might
need consider:

As I mentioned in my first static review about XMLTable existing
behaviour might change, I give it a run time review and here are few
findings:

1. Because of this patch XMLTable namespace will accept NO DEFAULT
value, I was expecting an error message based on prior behavior '' but
If I run following query it show something different:
"
> SELECT * FROM XMLTABLE(XMLNAMESPACES(NO DEFAULT),
                      '/rows/row'
                      PASSING '<rows
                      xmlns="http://x.y"><row><a>10</a></row></rows>'
                      COLUMNS a int PATH 'a');
ERROR:  cache lookup failed for type 0
"
Can you please re-check this behaviour (there might be something wrong
with my build environment)

2. Seems like namespace as ColumnRef was already allowed (I doubt if
that's a correct implementation, I see other DB allows only strings
AFAIK), for non-default namespaces may be its fair, should this be
allowed for default namespace, any opinion.
create table tbl1 ( col1 text);
insert into tbl1 values ('abc');
insert into tbl1 values ('def');
select xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(default col1)) from tbl1;
     xmlelement
---------------------
 <root xmlns="abc"/>
 <root xmlns="def"/>
(2 rows)

Changing status in commitfest, feel free to revert back.

Regards
Umar Hayat

On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 at 18:33, Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> wrote:
>
>
> On 16.01.25 08:36, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> > Now, I have not any objections against the code
> >
> > The patch has doc and enough regress tests
> > The patching and compilation without problems
> > make check-world passed
> >
> > I'll mark this patch as ready for committer
>
>
> rebase due to gram.y changes introduced in 80feb72
>
>
> --
> Jim



-- 
Umar Hayat
Bitnine (https://bitnine.net/)

  10. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-01-20T19:04:44Z

    Hi Umar

On 20.01.25 17:19, Umar Hayat wrote:
> Hi Jim & Pavel,
> Sorry for getting back a bit late on this. Few more case you might
> need consider:
>
> As I mentioned in my first static review about XMLTable existing
> behaviour might change, I give it a run time review and here are few
> findings:
>
> 1. Because of this patch XMLTable namespace will accept NO DEFAULT
> value, I was expecting an error message based on prior behavior '' but
> If I run following query it show something different:
> "
>> SELECT * FROM XMLTABLE(XMLNAMESPACES(NO DEFAULT),
>                       '/rows/row'
>                       PASSING '<rows
>                       xmlns="http://x.y"><row><a>10</a></row></rows>'
>                       COLUMNS a int PATH 'a');
> ERROR:  cache lookup failed for type 0
> "
> Can you please re-check this behaviour (there might be something wrong
> with my build environment)

There is nothing wrong with your environment :) I forgot to test
XMLTable for NO DEFAULT namespaces. To be consistent with the existing
code, I added the following condition to transformRangeTableFunc:


if (!r->name && !r->val)
  ns_uri = transformExpr(pstate, makeStringConst("", r->location),
EXPR_KIND_FROM_FUNCTION);
else
ns_uri = transformExpr(pstate, r->val, EXPR_KIND_FROM_FUNCTION);


It adds an empty string to the uri, which is the value expected for NO
DEFAULT.

I also added a NO DEFAULT test for XMLTable in xml.sql

v5 attached.

> 2. Seems like namespace as ColumnRef was already allowed (I doubt if
> that's a correct implementation, I see other DB allows only strings
> AFAIK), for non-default namespaces may be its fair, should this be
> allowed for default namespace, any opinion.
> create table tbl1 ( col1 text);
> insert into tbl1 values ('abc');
> insert into tbl1 values ('def');
> select xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(default col1)) from tbl1;
>      xmlelement
> ---------------------
>  <root xmlns="abc"/>
>  <root xmlns="def"/>
> (2 rows)

What are your concerns about supporting ColumnRef for the URI's?

It is currently supported by XMLAttributes:

CREATE TABLE t AS SELECT 'http://x.y' AS uri;
SELECT xmlelement(NAME el, xmlattributes("uri" AS att)) FROM t;

       xmlelement       
------------------------
 <el att="http://x.y"/>
(1 row)


Many thanks for the review!

Best, Jim




-- 
Jim

  11. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Umar Hayat <postgresql.wizard@gmail.com> — 2025-01-21T10:48:01Z

    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 at 04:04, Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Umar
>
> On 20.01.25 17:19, Umar Hayat wrote:
> > Hi Jim & Pavel,
> > Sorry for getting back a bit late on this. Few more case you might
> > need consider:
> >
> > As I mentioned in my first static review about XMLTable existing
> > behaviour might change, I give it a run time review and here are few
> > findings:
> >
> > 1. Because of this patch XMLTable namespace will accept NO DEFAULT
> > value, I was expecting an error message based on prior behavior '' but
> > If I run following query it show something different:
> > "
> >> SELECT * FROM XMLTABLE(XMLNAMESPACES(NO DEFAULT),
> >                       '/rows/row'
> >                       PASSING '<rows
> >                       xmlns="http://x.y"><row><a>10</a></row></rows>'
> >                       COLUMNS a int PATH 'a');
> > ERROR:  cache lookup failed for type 0
> > "
> > Can you please re-check this behaviour (there might be something wrong
> > with my build environment)
>
> There is nothing wrong with your environment :) I forgot to test
> XMLTable for NO DEFAULT namespaces. To be consistent with the existing
> code, I added the following condition to transformRangeTableFunc:
>
>
> if (!r->name && !r->val)
>   ns_uri = transformExpr(pstate, makeStringConst("", r->location),
> EXPR_KIND_FROM_FUNCTION);
> else
> ns_uri = transformExpr(pstate, r->val, EXPR_KIND_FROM_FUNCTION);
>
>
> It adds an empty string to the uri, which is the value expected for NO
> DEFAULT.
>
> I also added a NO DEFAULT test for XMLTable in xml.sql
>
> v5 attached.
>
> > 2. Seems like namespace as ColumnRef was already allowed (I doubt if
> > that's a correct implementation, I see other DB allows only strings
> > AFAIK), for non-default namespaces may be its fair, should this be
> > allowed for default namespace, any opinion.
> > create table tbl1 ( col1 text);
> > insert into tbl1 values ('abc');
> > insert into tbl1 values ('def');
> > select xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(default col1)) from tbl1;
> >      xmlelement
> > ---------------------
> >  <root xmlns="abc"/>
> >  <root xmlns="def"/>
> > (2 rows)
>
> What are your concerns about supporting ColumnRef for the URI's?
>
> It is currently supported by XMLAttributes:
>
For XMLAttributes attribute it should have ColumnRef/Expr because
that's the data/content we want to generate. But namespaces and xml
tags, IMO they should be considered as part of the structure/schema of
XML. Allowing namespaces (default or otherwise) to be generated
arbitrarily for each record does not seem correct to me, it's like
generating arbitrary XML using print string which does not require XML
functions.

- DB2 allows XMLElements namespace but it does not allow Expr/ColumnRef.
- Oracle Allow namespace in only XMLTable, and it does not allow Expr/ColumnRef.

- Having SConst/String or numeric can limit the error handling at
parsing stage which can validate the schema instead of expression
evaluation per record, which leads to following problem at runtime:

CREATE TABLE xmltab (uri TEXT);
INSERT INTO xmltab VALUES ('good'), ('');
SELECT XMLElement(NAME "root", XMLNamespaces(uri AS zz)) from xmltab;
ERROR:  invalid XML namespace URI for "zz"
DETAIL:  a regular XML namespace cannot be a zero-length string

Imagine there millions of records and in the middle it fails.

- Also expression evaluation per record and doing validation (valid
URI etc) I believe will have some performance impact ( I haven't
tested it, so can't say for sure , how much )

- It's possible that there might be some other angle that I am missing
right now, maybe Pavel/Àlvaro can shed light on this. I briefly went
through the first implementation thread. There was a bit of discussion
to use b_expr instead of c_expr, but I have yet to explore the
reasoning of not using SConst.


> CREATE TABLE t AS SELECT 'http://x.y' AS uri;
> SELECT xmlelement(NAME el, xmlattributes("uri" AS att)) FROM t;
>
>        xmlelement
> ------------------------
>  <el att="http://x.y"/>
> (1 row)
>
>
> Many thanks for the review!
>
> Best, Jim
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jim



-- 
Umar Hayat
Bitnine (https://bitnine.net/)

  12. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> — 2025-01-21T13:14:59Z

    Hi

út 21. 1. 2025 v 11:45 odesílatel Umar Hayat <postgresql.wizard@gmail.com>
napsal:

> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 at 04:04, Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Umar
> >
> > On 20.01.25 17:19, Umar Hayat wrote:
> > > Hi Jim & Pavel,
> > > Sorry for getting back a bit late on this. Few more case you might
> > > need consider:
> > >
> > > As I mentioned in my first static review about XMLTable existing
> > > behaviour might change, I give it a run time review and here are few
> > > findings:
> > >
> > > 1. Because of this patch XMLTable namespace will accept NO DEFAULT
> > > value, I was expecting an error message based on prior behavior '' but
> > > If I run following query it show something different:
> > > "
> > >> SELECT * FROM XMLTABLE(XMLNAMESPACES(NO DEFAULT),
> > >                       '/rows/row'
> > >                       PASSING '<rows
> > >                       xmlns="http://x.y"><row><a>10</a></row></rows>'
> > >                       COLUMNS a int PATH 'a');
> > > ERROR:  cache lookup failed for type 0
> > > "
> > > Can you please re-check this behaviour (there might be something wrong
> > > with my build environment)
> >
> > There is nothing wrong with your environment :) I forgot to test
> > XMLTable for NO DEFAULT namespaces. To be consistent with the existing
> > code, I added the following condition to transformRangeTableFunc:
> >
> >
> > if (!r->name && !r->val)
> >   ns_uri = transformExpr(pstate, makeStringConst("", r->location),
> > EXPR_KIND_FROM_FUNCTION);
> > else
> > ns_uri = transformExpr(pstate, r->val, EXPR_KIND_FROM_FUNCTION);
> >
> >
> > It adds an empty string to the uri, which is the value expected for NO
> > DEFAULT.
> >
> > I also added a NO DEFAULT test for XMLTable in xml.sql
> >
> > v5 attached.
> >
> > > 2. Seems like namespace as ColumnRef was already allowed (I doubt if
> > > that's a correct implementation, I see other DB allows only strings
> > > AFAIK), for non-default namespaces may be its fair, should this be
> > > allowed for default namespace, any opinion.
> > > create table tbl1 ( col1 text);
> > > insert into tbl1 values ('abc');
> > > insert into tbl1 values ('def');
> > > select xmlelement(NAME "root", xmlnamespaces(default col1)) from tbl1;
> > >      xmlelement
> > > ---------------------
> > >  <root xmlns="abc"/>
> > >  <root xmlns="def"/>
> > > (2 rows)
> >
> > What are your concerns about supporting ColumnRef for the URI's?
> >
> > It is currently supported by XMLAttributes:
> >
> For XMLAttributes attribute it should have ColumnRef/Expr because
> that's the data/content we want to generate. But namespaces and xml
> tags, IMO they should be considered as part of the structure/schema of
> XML. Allowing namespaces (default or otherwise) to be generated
> arbitrarily for each record does not seem correct to me, it's like
> generating arbitrary XML using print string which does not require XML
> functions.
>
> - DB2 allows XMLElements namespace but it does not allow Expr/ColumnRef.
> - Oracle Allow namespace in only XMLTable, and it does not allow
> Expr/ColumnRef.
>
> - Having SConst/String or numeric can limit the error handling at
> parsing stage which can validate the schema instead of expression
> evaluation per record, which leads to following problem at runtime:
>
> CREATE TABLE xmltab (uri TEXT);
> INSERT INTO xmltab VALUES ('good'), ('');
> SELECT XMLElement(NAME "root", XMLNamespaces(uri AS zz)) from xmltab;
> ERROR:  invalid XML namespace URI for "zz"
> DETAIL:  a regular XML namespace cannot be a zero-length string
>
> Imagine there millions of records and in the middle it fails.
>
> - Also expression evaluation per record and doing validation (valid
> URI etc) I believe will have some performance impact ( I haven't
> tested it, so can't say for sure , how much )
>
> - It's possible that there might be some other angle that I am missing
> right now, maybe Pavel/Àlvaro can shed light on this. I briefly went
> through the first implementation thread. There was a bit of discussion
> to use b_expr instead of c_expr, but I have yet to explore the
> reasoning of not using SConst.
>
>
Postgres usually doesn't force string constants in functions or
pseudofunctions arguments.

I remember a discussion related to string_agg, where the field separator is
not constant too, although it makes sense there.
I think there are more cases - probably aggregate (maybe window) functions
where postgres allows any expression and other databases allow just
constants there.

Personally, using only string constants can be sometimes too messy (when I
use other db).

Regards

Pavel


> > CREATE TABLE t AS SELECT 'http://x.y' AS uri;
> > SELECT xmlelement(NAME el, xmlattributes("uri" AS att)) FROM t;
> >
> >        xmlelement
> > ------------------------
> >  <el att="http://x.y"/>
> > (1 row)
> >
> >
> > Many thanks for the review!
> >
> > Best, Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim
>
>
>
> --
> Umar Hayat
> Bitnine (https://bitnine.net/)
>

  13. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-01-27T10:58:43Z

    On 21.01.25 11:48, Umar Hayat wrote:
> For XMLAttributes attribute it should have ColumnRef/Expr because
> that's the data/content we want to generate. But namespaces and xml
> tags, IMO they should be considered as part of the structure/schema of
> XML. Allowing namespaces (default or otherwise) to be generated
> arbitrarily for each record does not seem correct to me, it's like
> generating arbitrary XML using print string which does not require XML
> functions.


I'm not sure I completely get your 'print string' argument. Namespaces
are added to the element using libxml2's xmlTextWriterWriteAttributeNS
function, so we’re letting libxml2 handle whether a namespace
declaration is valid or not. Of course, there are still some extra
checks required by the SQL/XML standard.


>
> - DB2 allows XMLElements namespace but it does not allow Expr/ColumnRef.
> - Oracle Allow namespace in only XMLTable, and it does not allow Expr/ColumnRef.
>
> - Having SConst/String or numeric can limit the error handling at
> parsing stage which can validate the schema instead of expression
> evaluation per record, which leads to following problem at runtime:
>
> CREATE TABLE xmltab (uri TEXT);
> INSERT INTO xmltab VALUES ('good'), ('');
> SELECT XMLElement(NAME "root", XMLNamespaces(uri AS zz)) from xmltab;
> ERROR:  invalid XML namespace URI for "zz"
> DETAIL:  a regular XML namespace cannot be a zero-length string
>
> Imagine there millions of records and in the middle it fails.


I don't think discarding a feature just because the input data might
raise an exception in a long transaction is a strong argument here. For
your specific case, the user can always use a WHERE clause to filter out
any URIs that aren’t valid for XMLNamespace. Additionally, the
documentation already mentions this specific limitation:

"The value of a <replaceable>regular-nsuri</replaceable> cannot be a
zero-length string."

So it shouldn’t really catch anyone off guard :)


Thanks for the review!

Best, Jim

  14. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Umar Hayat <postgresql.wizard@gmail.com> — 2025-01-27T14:00:24Z

    Pavel and Jim,
If that's the case, it looks good to me.
Just wanted to highlight potential issues and implementation
differences compared to other databases.

Regards
Umar Hayat

  15. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> — 2025-01-27T14:10:21Z

    po 27. 1. 2025 v 14:57 odesílatel Umar Hayat <postgresql.wizard@gmail.com>
napsal:

> Pavel and Jim,
> If that's the case, it looks good to me.
> Just wanted to highlight potential issues and implementation
> differences compared to other databases.
>

It is correct.

Every Time there will be some differences  - DB2 has an absolutely
different stack for XML processing, Oracle has handy written parser, and
allows some syntaxes that Postgres does not, but for some cases it is
unfriendly, strict and restrictive.

And we are searching for some good compromise - between consistency with
self, consistency with standard, and good usability and good portability.

Regards

Pavel


> Regards
> Umar Hayat
>

  16. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-02-20T11:20:29Z

    I've attached v6, which addresses two issues:

* Fixes a bug where XMLNAMESPACES declarations within a view were being
serialized as XMLATTRIBUTES.
* Prevents the makeString function from being called with a NULL
parameter - discussed in this thread [1].

Best regards, Jim

[1]
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAFj8pRC24FEBNfTUrDgAK8f2nqDVvzWCuq%3DR%3DT19nUjL9GuLBA%40mail.gmail.com

  17. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    newtglobal postgresql_contributors <postgresql_contributors@newtglobalcorp.com> — 2025-03-13T06:51:40Z

    The following review has been posted through the commitfest application:
make installcheck-world:  not tested
Implements feature:       not tested
Spec compliant:           not tested
Documentation:            not tested

Hi Pavel,

I have tested this patch, and it proves to be highly useful when handling XMLNAMESPACES() with both DEFAULT and NO DEFAULT options. The following test cases confirm its correctness:


SELECT xmlelement(
    NAME "foo",
    XMLNAMESPACES('http://x.y' AS xy, 'http://a.b' AS ab, DEFAULT 'http://d.e'),
    xmlelement(NAME "foot", 
        xmlelement(NAME "xy:shoe"), 
        xmlelement(NAME "ab:lace")
    )
);

SELECT xmlelement(
    NAME "foo",
    XMLNAMESPACES('http://x.y' AS xy, 'http://a.b' AS ab, NO DEFAULT),
    xmlelement(NAME "foot", 
        xmlelement(NAME "xy:shoe"), 
        xmlelement(NAME "ab:lace")
    )
);
Additionally, I verified that the patch correctly supports multiple namespaces when using both DEFAULT and NO DEFAULT, ensuring expected behavior across different use cases.

Great work on this improvement!

  18. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-06-10T07:10:51Z

    rebase

-- 
Jim

  19. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-06-16T13:11:23Z

    rebase

-- 
Jim

  20. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-07-01T08:01:07Z

    rebased due to changes in 2e94721

-- 
Jim

  21. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-08-07T15:59:36Z

    rebased due to recent changes in doc/src/sgml/func.sgml

-- 
Jim

  22. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2025-12-03T08:13:34Z

    rebased

Jim

  23. Re: Add XMLNamespaces to XMLElement

    Jim Jones <jim.jones@uni-muenster.de> — 2026-05-27T18:29:18Z

    rebase

Jim