Re: Request for comment on setting binary format output per session
Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
From: Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
To: Dave Cramer <davecramer@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, PostgreSQL Hackers
<pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>, Paul Ramsey
<pramsey@cleverelephant.ca>
Date: 2023-03-20T19:09:50Z
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On Mon, 2023-03-20 at 14:36 -0400, Dave Cramer wrote: > Thanks for the review. I'm curious what system you are running on as > I don't see any of these errors. Are asserts enabled? > Well I'm guessing psql doesn't know how to read date or timestamptz > in binary. This is not a failing of the code. It seems strange, and potentially dangerous, to send binary data to a client that's not expecting it. It feels too easy to cause confusion by changing the GUC mid-session. Also, it seems like DISCARD ALL is not resetting it, which I think is a bug. > > This is an interesting question. If the type isn't visible then it's > not visible to the query so I don't think that's true -- the type could be in a different schema from the table. > > > > 5. There's a theoretical invalidation problem. It might also be a > > practical problem in some testing setups with long-lived > > connections > > that are recreating user-defined types. > > > > UDT's seem to be a problem here which candidly have very little use > case for binary output. I mostly agree with that, but it also might not be hard to support UDTs. Is there a design problem here or is it "just a matter of code"? > > I didn't try to solve it as Tom was OK with using a GUC. Using a > startup GUC is interesting, > but how would that work with pools where we want to reset the > connection when we return it and then > set the binary format on borrow ? By using a GUC when a client > borrows a connection from a pool the client > can reconfigure the oids it wants formatted in binary. That's a good point. How common is it to share a connection pool between different clients (some of which might support a binary format, and others which don't)? And would the connection pool put connections with and without the property in different pools? > > I really hadn't considered supporting type names. I have asked Paul > Ramsey about PostGIS and he doesn't see PostGIS using this. One of the things I like about Postgres is that the features all work together, and that user-defined objects are generally as good as built- in ones. Sometimes there's a reason to make a special case (e.g. syntax support or something), but in this case it seems like we could support user-defined types just fine, right? It's also just more friendly and readable to use type names, especially if it's a GUC. Regards, Jeff Davis