Re: Non-superuser subscription owners

Mark Dilger <mark.dilger@enterprisedb.com>

From: Mark Dilger <mark.dilger@enterprisedb.com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>, Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>, Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2023-02-01T17:22:31Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 6:43 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:

> The thing I'm
> struggling to understand is: if you only want to replicate into tables
> that Alice can write, why not just make Alice own the subscription?
> For a run-as user to make sense, you need a scenario where we want the
> replication to target only tables that Alice can touch, but we also
> don't want Alice herself to be able to touch the subscription, so you
> make Alice the run-as user and yourself the owner, or something like
> that. But I'm not sure what that scenario is exactly.

This "run-as" idea came about because we didn't want arbitrary roles to be able to change the subscription's connection string.  A competing idea was to have a server object rather than a string, with roles like Alice being able to use the server object if they have been granted usage privilege, and not otherwise.  So the "run-as" and "server" ideas were somewhat competing.

> Mark was postulating a scenario where the publisher and subscriber
> don't trust each other. I was thinking a little bit more about that. I
> still maintain that the current system is poorly set up to make that
> work, but suppose we wanted to do better. We could add filtering on
> the subscriber side, like you list schemas or specific relations that
> you are or are not willing to replicate into. Then you could, for
> example, connect your subscription to a certain remote publication,
> but with the restriction that you're only willing to replicate into
> the "headquarters" schema. Then we'll replicate whatever tables they
> send us, but if the dorks at headquarters mess up the publications on
> their end (intentionally or otherwise) and add some tables from the
> "locally_controlled_stuff" schema, we'll refuse to replicate that into
> our eponymous schema.

That example is good, though I don't see how "filters" are better than roles+privileges.  Care to elaborate?

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Mark Dilger
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  1. Fix possible crash in tablesync worker.

  2. Display 'password_required' option for \dRs+ command.

  3. Restart the apply worker if the 'password_required' option is changed.

  4. Fix possible logical replication crash.

  5. Add new predefined role pg_create_subscription.

  6. Expand AclMode to 64 bits

  7. More cleanup of a2ab9c06ea.

  8. Respect permissions within logical replication.

  9. Improve table locking behavior in the face of current DDL.